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The flaming you got for saying this is really sad, to be quite honest. I hadn't even commented on this thread before because I had the exact same opinion as you and I just knew a wank fest would ensue if I actually said it. Unlike me, you weren't a coward - kudos for that.
 
When people start talking about someone else's body, they can't expect everyone to have the same opinion and only say complimentary things about it. If her current body type is a lot of people's ideal, it isn't mine, and that should be fine as well. It's not like anyone called her fat or otherwise insulted her. It's also not like we're talking about extreme thinness or promoting unhealthy ideals. It's just a preference - as in everything else in life, taste is subjective.
 
I know it's a touchy subject, but people should still be allowed to talk about it in different ways other than utter praise or hypocrisy. And I won't even get into the "real women" argument and the fact that all this "touchiness" usually only goes one way.
 
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Really excited about this new video, I predict something (once again) epic!
Oh, and Lana as a stripper / go go dancer ---> 

OK, so I'm just gonna go and drop the PC and say that I find that guy really, really ugly.

OMG. And Lana slays me once again! This video will be flawless, I just know it. I'm sure it will be as epic as Ride and National Anthem, it will legit be the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my life. Like, OMG, I am dying here. I'm crying so hard right now that I actually can't breathe, can't someone please hold me?! To all of you making mean comments about goddess Lana: she's flawless!!! Sure, she's just a wee bit fat and should probably lose a bit of weight and maybe tone her abs - but she's still perfect regardless! (Oh, btw, does anyone else think the whole stripping / go-go dancing thing could represent the loss of innocence? You know, the angel looking to get fucked hard and all that? Makes sense, right?!)
 
 
 

Judging from a few things she's recently said, she's at the very least kinda bitter at the USA. And with good reason, if you ask me. She was mercilessly and, for the most part, stupidly attacked there. We all know she needs to feel adored and doesn't deal very well with negative criticism; I guess now we'll also find out whether she holds a grudge for a long time or not.
 
I also wouldn't say that's the main reason she sells well here - you wouldn't believe how much anti-Americanism there is in Europe. When she appeared she was very different from pretty much everything else in the pop scene, and we really didn't give a fuck about the authenticity / inauthenticity debate & the lip controversy (feels really silly just writing this...). Her music had an interesting dark, vintage-y mood and vivid imagery, and her image fit very well into that. That's what made her a huge hit here.
 
 
Dating a British musician? Check.

She's great. Not only do I love Grimes, the artist, but I really like Claire, the person. Her interviews are always so much fun, plus I love her attitude towards life and respect most of her opinions on social issues.
 
Anyway, much as I love her 3 albums, the first thing I ever listened to was Darkbloom so that holds a special place in my heart (ew, how sappy) and Vanessa is still one of my favourite songs. Particularly love this performance:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks4LoTBJTtE
 
And Oblivion really broke my heart when I finally found out what it was about, and made me admire her even more.

A job well done. Extra points for your use of legit. You should have also included the non-literal use of literally (“I’m literally dying right now watching this flawless video.”) What about the fragment “I can’t even”? And the puzzling, nonsensical use of though, shortened to tho, which doesn’t actually qualify anything. We will know just how flawless this video and Lana are when we come upon “I can’t even tho.” omg but NO wait like she was so beautiful and glamorous and classy and old hollywood in young & beautiful and now she’s a fat stripper omg i just dgi

OMG. And Lana slays me once again! This video will be flawless, I just know it. I'm sure it will be as epic as Ride and National Anthem, it will legit be the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my life. Like, OMG, I am dying here. I'm crying so hard right now that I actually can't breathe, can't someone please hold me?! To all of you making mean comments about goddess Lana: she's flawless!!! Sure, she's just a wee bit fat and should probably lose a bit of weight and maybe tone her abs - but she's still perfect regardless! (Oh, btw, does anyone else think the whole stripping / go-go dancing thing could represent the loss of innocence? You know, the angel looking to get fucked hard and all that? Makes sense, right?!)
 
 
 

Damn right!

OMG. And Lana slays me once again! This video will be flawless, I just know it. I'm sure it will be as epic as Ride and National Anthem, it will legit be the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my life. Like, OMG, I am dying here. I'm crying so hard right now that I actually can't breathe, can't someone please hold me?! To all of you making mean comments about goddess Lana: she's flawless!!! Sure, she's just a wee bit fat and should probably lose a bit of weight and maybe tone her abs - but she's still perfect regardless! (Oh, btw, does anyone else think the whole stripping / go-go dancing thing could represent the loss of innocence? You know, the angel looking to get fucked hard and all that? Makes sense, right?!)
 
 
 

OMG how can one not like Blue Jeans?!
 
Seriously though, why? I'm really curious now!

OMG. And Lana slays me once again! This video will be flawless, I just know it. I'm sure it will be as epic as Ride and National Anthem, it will legit be the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my life. Like, OMG, I am dying here. I'm crying so hard right now that I actually can't breathe, can't someone please hold me?! To all of you making mean comments about goddess Lana: she's flawless!!! Sure, she's just a wee bit fat and should probably lose a bit of weight and maybe tone her abs - but she's still perfect regardless! (Oh, btw, does anyone else think the whole stripping / go-go dancing thing could represent the loss of innocence? You know, the angel looking to get fucked hard and all that? Makes sense, right?!)
 
 
 

helllooooo boy at the far left

OMG. And Lana slays me once again! This video will be flawless, I just know it. I'm sure it will be as epic as Ride and National Anthem, it will legit be the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my life. Like, OMG, I am dying here. I'm crying so hard right now that I actually can't breathe, can't someone please hold me?! To all of you making mean comments about goddess Lana: she's flawless!!! Sure, she's just a wee bit fat and should probably lose a bit of weight and maybe tone her abs - but she's still perfect regardless! (Oh, btw, does anyone else think the whole stripping / go-go dancing thing could represent the loss of innocence? You know, the angel looking to get fucked hard and all that? Makes sense, right?!)
 
 
 

OMG. And Lana slays me once again! This video will be flawless, I just know it. I'm sure it will be as epic as Ride and National Anthem, it will legit be the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my life. Like, OMG, I am dying here. I'm crying so hard right now that I actually can't breathe, can't someone please hold me?! To all of you making mean comments about goddess Lana: she's flawless!!! Sure, she's just a wee bit fat and should probably lose a bit of weight and maybe tone her abs - but she's still perfect regardless! (Oh, btw, does anyone else think the whole stripping / go-go dancing thing could represent the loss of innocence? You know, the angel looking to get fucked hard and all that? Makes sense, right?!)
 
 
 

OMG. And Lana slays me once again! This video will be flawless, I just know it. I'm sure it will be as epic as Ride and National Anthem, it will legit be the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my life. Like, OMG, I am dying here. I'm crying so hard right now that I actually can't breathe, can't someone please hold me?! To all of you making mean comments about goddess Lana: she's flawless!!! Sure, she's just a wee bit fat and should probably lose a bit of weight and maybe tone her abs - but she's still perfect regardless! (Oh, btw, does anyone else think the whole stripping / go-go dancing thing could represent the loss of innocence? You know, the angel looking to get fucked hard and all that? Makes sense, right?!)
 
 
 

If you look back at the posts you will see that people think its fine to break their noses, get a new jaw, do everything possible to change their appereance. But calling Lana flaccid or saying she should hit the gym for an hour is a crime. People talk about how amazing her plastic surgeries are. That is also ok. Like here for example.
 
you saying the model is ugly is not ok at all shame on you. But on the other hand saying he needs a plastic surgery on his nose is ok. Since when being honest and saying that you think that this particular model is not attractive is ugly is such a terrible thing? Since when beauty is equal to everyone? The beauty of beauty is that is not the same to you and me. Thats is the actual fun of it dont you think? I do.
 
Most people (some really need them)  get all those surgeires for insecurity and to look like people on mags. But those people on mags dont look like that they are usually airbrushed to death. To the point once Gisele said she didnt recognize herself in a Cavalli ad. And those faces on mags change. Beauty changes like the seasons. Basically means that a lot of people are stuck with last season noses, jaws and lips.
 
But hey dont dare say he is ugly say instead he needs a plastic surgery because that is cool. Don't say Lana should hit the gym. Say she should pump her lips because that is also cool. I guess not only beauty is relative my friend logic apparently also is. My logic is similar to yours.

All I can do is assure I wasn't one of those. I call them as I see them and I hate political correctness; that's just me.
 
I also don't get why criticising someone's appearance is so much worse than criticising someone's personality and/or attitudes - and that is frequently done here. A really shallow society we live in, that puts physical appearance above everything else while claiming to do otherwise ("beauty comes from the inside", "appearance doesn't matter", etc.).

All I can do is assure I wasn't one of those. I call them as I see them and I hate political correctness; that's just me.
 
I also don't get why criticising someone's appearance is so much worse than criticising someone's personality and/or attitudes - and that is frequently done here. A really shallow society we live in, that puts physical appearance above everything else while claiming to do otherwise ("beauty comes from the inside", "appearance doesn't matter", etc.).

All I can do is assure I wasn't one of those. I call them as I see them and I hate political correctness; that's just me.
 
I also don't get why criticising someone's appearance is so much worse than criticising someone's personality and/or attitudes - and that is frequently done here. A really shallow society we live in, that puts physical appearance above everything else while claiming to do otherwise ("beauty comes from the inside", "appearance doesn't matter", etc.).

All I can do is assure I wasn't one of those. I call them as I see them and I hate political correctness; that's just me.
 
I also don't get why criticising someone's appearance is so much worse than criticising someone's personality and/or attitudes - and that is frequently done here. A really shallow society we live in, that puts physical appearance above everything else while claiming to do otherwise ("beauty comes from the inside", "appearance doesn't matter", etc.).

OMG. And Lana slays me once again! This video will be flawless, I just know it. I'm sure it will be as epic as Ride and National Anthem, it will legit be the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my life. Like, OMG, I am dying here. I'm crying so hard right now that I actually can't breathe, can't someone please hold me?! To all of you making mean comments about goddess Lana: she's flawless!!! Sure, she's just a wee bit fat and should probably lose a bit of weight and maybe tone her abs - but she's still perfect regardless! (Oh, btw, does anyone else think the whole stripping / go-go dancing thing could represent the loss of innocence? You know, the angel looking to get fucked hard and all that? Makes sense, right?!)
 
 
 

OMG. And Lana slays me once again! This video will be flawless, I just know it. I'm sure it will be as epic as Ride and National Anthem, it will legit be the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my life. Like, OMG, I am dying here. I'm crying so hard right now that I actually can't breathe, can't someone please hold me?! To all of you making mean comments about goddess Lana: she's flawless!!! Sure, she's just a wee bit fat and should probably lose a bit of weight and maybe tone her abs - but she's still perfect regardless! (Oh, btw, does anyone else think the whole stripping / go-go dancing thing could represent the loss of innocence? You know, the angel looking to get fucked hard and all that? Makes sense, right?!)
 
 
 

OMG. And Lana slays me once again! This video will be flawless, I just know it. I'm sure it will be as epic as Ride and National Anthem, it will legit be the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my life. Like, OMG, I am dying here. I'm crying so hard right now that I actually can't breathe, can't someone please hold me?! To all of you making mean comments about goddess Lana: she's flawless!!! Sure, she's just a wee bit fat and should probably lose a bit of weight and maybe tone her abs - but she's still perfect regardless! (Oh, btw, does anyone else think the whole stripping / go-go dancing thing could represent the loss of innocence? You know, the angel looking to get fucked hard and all that? Makes sense, right?!)
 
 
 

OK, so I'm just gonna go and drop the PC and say that I find that guy really, really ugly.