Dark Angel

1. yayo 2. off to the races 3. heroin 4. a&w 5. cruel world 6. wildflower wildfire 7. venice bitch 8. ride 9. white dress 10. the blackest day

anyway... i would like to hear paradise (2015)

you do have a good point that what we consider to be paradise outtakes did have a different sound/theme, it did seem very 50s/60s inspired and seemed like a more straight-forward continuation of born to die, as opposed to the more cinematic, esoteric, religious feel of paradise we have, but i feel like maybe she could've just been recording a lot of stuff with a variety of different themes/sounds and ended up going with something more cinematic and esoteric, we've known about body electric since the summer of 2012, she even performed it more than once before the release of paradise, she also mentioned gods and monsters a few months before the release of paradise, and who knows how early on the demo of cola was recorded also, TV in black and white, hollywood's dead, and what's a girl to do are all from 2011 and are more likely to just be born to die outtakes, i don't think she revisited them for paradise

i totally forgot about dayglo reflection, that one's my favorite

no, if you're referring to the fact that lana claimed she was 17 when she wrote it, i highly doubt that's true, she also claimed to have written axl rose husband when she was 16 which is definitely not true, it seems most likely that she wrote it between december 2005 - may 2006 (it first appeared on myspace in may 2006, so the sirens album itself could've been fully completed in that timeframe as well)

my favorite collab might be prisoner, riverside is a great choice as well

...sometimes it's just better to step away from the computer

i believe they're pertaining to all of the news coming out about how much of a creep colleen is

personally i would just listen to the songs/projects in order, some of the songs off of young like me and from the end ended up on sirens, so i would just listen to the songs exclusive to those EPs first young like me 1. blizzard 2. you, mister 3. there's nothing to be sorry about 4. more mountains 5. in wendy from the end 1. for you 2. wait and then i'd listen though the sirens album they all can be found on @That Venice Bitch's masterpost under "pre-ldr/covers" https://thatvenicebitch.wixsite.com/missdaytona

i would love to know more about the 2004-2006 period of time of her life/music career as well, it's still pretty mysterious and we still don't know much about it, and i don't believe lana has ever mentioned sirens or any 2005/2006 songs besides pawn shop blues (even though the final version is from 2008) it would be fascinating to know more about some of the sirens tracks, i can't imagine that lana completely forgot about them or just simply wouldn't want to talk about them, but she was only 20/21 when she recorded sirens, so maybe something from when she was so young just doesn't feel relevant at all to her? but the sirens songs are so good i really hope we get more material from her may jailer days, imagine if we got a song from 2004, since she was already playing the guitar when she was 18, which would've been 2003, i wouldn't be surprised if she recorded a lot more material during that time, but i also can't imagine it's likely that people out there have pre-2007 material, it just feels especially elusive and we're lucky to have sirens, young like me, and from the end honestly

it must be a wild concept to some people that lana could be everywhere on the planet at one moment, and that lana can't accommodate for every single fan she has, they should be grateful that she's even performing at all, she doesn't have to, and they can always watch the concert online if they can't make it, obviously that doesn't compare at all to actually being there at the concert... but it's like you said, life goes on...

you seem to be arguing that the reason why fans may prefer a demo version over a released version is because of some sort of unconscious bias or some sort of psychological effect, i'm sorry but that premise is really silly and at the end of the day it isn't that deep, sometimes people just like what they like, especially if the demo version is quite different from the released version, somebody preferring the demo version of the next best american record doesn't feel that way because they're unconsciously biased, it's because the demo version has qualities that they prefer, we all have unique, individual tastes, and while our tastes may be influenced by a lot of different factors, i just think there's no good reason to psycho-analyze why we like the music we do

do you just simply have a problem with people liking lana's unreleased songs/demos? because between this thread and the conversation that took place in the lust for life album process thread, it honestly seems like you do

somebody preferring a demo version isn't a case of a "syndrome"... they just happen to prefer it, even if you may not understand why, does just simply preferring a demo/different version of a song mean you have some sort of weird psychological reason as to why? just let people like what they like, it isn't that deep

i believe it's just an alternate title for the young like me EP

paradise, and of course, anything lizzy <3

she doesn't need a grammy, the grammys need her

omg we have to wait until august 18th

candy necklace is one of her BEST, i hope he produces her next album

she's only performed three times since she released it, i don't think it's been enough time for us to say she didn't want it released, or that she doesn't like it

i think comparing the brand of shoes and whether or not a song is released or unreleased is like comparing apples to oranges, honestly, the way people feel about shoes is totally different to how they feel about songs from an artist they enjoy/their favorite artist regardless if a song is released or unreleased really shouldn't change how a person feels about the song at the end of the day, humans are not that impressionable, somebody is going to either like or dislike a song whether it is released or not, if they like what they hear, they like what they hear honestly, why does it matter so much if somebody likes a certain song whether it's released or not?

honestly... why does it matter if perhaps we're a little biased? it's like you said, bias is very real, and i would agree! everybody has biases, and having biases can be pretty harmful and it is something we should be conscious about, and try to change if it could be a harmful bias, but when it comes to what lana del rey songs or demos we prefer, i don't think it's a big deal, i think we should just let people like what they like without having to psycho-analyze it, i think it's great to be open-minded towards her music, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be allowed to prefer certain demos or unreleased songs over certain released songs, we all have unique tastes, and there may be a lot that goes into why we like what we do, but listening to music by our favorite artist shouldn't be that complicated

i can agree that people can have unconscious biases or preferences towards certain things, maybe some people just simply prefer some of lana's music from certain eras, or maybe their brains can just recognize what sounds, lyrics, and vibes they happen to prefer, if you really dig into it, there's probably a lot of reasons why somebody may like the music they like, their life and background, personality, what they grew up with, etc. music can be a very personal thing, but i don't think it's really wrong or points to anything psychological if somebody perhaps prefers an older demo version of a more recent song everybody knows i love the lizzy grant era and it's my favorite era, i think one could assume that maybe i'm unconsciously biased towards some of her work from that time, although i can recognize that not everybody likes the lizzy grant music as much as i do, i greatly prefer the AKA version of yayo, and i honestly really don't like the paradise version of yayo, is it because i'm just biased towards the lizzy grant era? well, maybe a little bit, but i also just don't think the overly-opulent sound of the paradise album suits yayo at all, and i also don't like her vocalization in that song, or the heavy reverb on her vocals, i don't think that's unconscious/psychological, that's just me having a preference, i think the conversation here is interesting, but at the same time, it's just music at the end of the day, and we all have very different tastes anyway, i think our community is pretty diverse when it comes to favorite eras/favorite albums from lana

i mentioned it in my earlier post, but it could be recency-bias, whatever is new will be more exciting for our minds, also, regarding demos with different sounds leaking, it's sort've like a "the grass is greener on the other side" kind of phenomenon, when a demo of a song leaks and it's noticeably different, it makes us think of what could've been, but at the same time, i think some people can just listen to a demo/earlier iteration of a song and maybe just prefer it, especially when it's very, very different, like pink champagne, or lust for life (demo 1) i don't think that means there's some psychological effect there, it's been over 3 years since the first lust for life demo leaked and i still prefer it over the album version (i still like the album version though)