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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by Tana Mongeau in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
Thank you
I spoke to someone who I consider to be a reliable source, allegedly marina had an argument with the design team, even after making them work Christmas and New Year’s and then just scrapped everything and redid those visuals…appallingly might I add
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Embach liked a post in a topic by AllForYou in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I think we can definitely blame jack, the reason she worked with so many co-writers was literally because she 'doubted her decision making abilities' and I believe the reason she felt that way was due to her constantly ignoring her gut feeling about him all the time. there's also her cfs, and that london house they shared had black mold the landlord just painted over, I'm not suggesting marina is completely blameless for the album being how it is but at this point, six years later, some people are being way too harsh considering all that we know about her circumstances at the time.
this was about adiaml! which I personally believe, it's her quickest release so far and her shortest, then she announced she was going independent on tour.
with the 6th anniversary coming up soon I've been thinking about love + fear a lot. I know plans were probably scrapped due to fan reaction, though I don't think the behind the scenes issues of her cfs flair-ups and arguments with jack (and likely label/management) should be ignored, but I want to know what, if anything, she originally had in mind for the whole 'two collections that are meant to be released separately' schtick.
whilst it feels like a very rushed thing she decided to do three weeks before the album dropped, she did actually talk about it a few months before. she was meant to pick different singles too and that didn't happen.
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Embach liked a post in a topic by AllForYou in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
Jesse was publicly accused in early 2019 and I believe the tracklist was already announced by then. marina might have heard rumours in 2017 or 2018 behind the scenes but he only worked on two songs, one of which she re-wrote and registered without him (if its worth it) so if she really cared that much about there's nothing wrong with you she could have done the same, I think she just wrote enjoy your life and liked that more than tnwwy personally.
someone messaged katie mcintyre (the original designer) on instagram and she couldn't say much for legal reasons but there was behind the scenes drama that lead to the cover being scrapped, there were other designs too but she couldn't share them it's probably why handmade heaven was moved from january to february with no warning and why the covers we got were so... uninspired.
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by Tasty in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I'm afraid there's no an Aquamarina concept. That was fanmade. The original 100% real concept was Handmade Heaven. I don't know how different stuff would've been, but I'd like to think that at least some outtakes would've made it. Problem is that the songs still had generic and mediocre production.
BUT, this original artwork ate. I don't remember if this was the original album cover or the original Handmade Heaven (single) cover
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lvrdve liked a post in a topic by AllForYou in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
Jesse was publicly accused in early 2019 and I believe the tracklist was already announced by then. marina might have heard rumours in 2017 or 2018 behind the scenes but he only worked on two songs, one of which she re-wrote and registered without him (if its worth it) so if she really cared that much about there's nothing wrong with you she could have done the same, I think she just wrote enjoy your life and liked that more than tnwwy personally.
someone messaged katie mcintyre (the original designer) on instagram and she couldn't say much for legal reasons but there was behind the scenes drama that lead to the cover being scrapped, there were other designs too but she couldn't share them it's probably why handmade heaven was moved from january to february with no warning and why the covers we got were so... uninspired.
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Tana Mongeau liked a post in a topic by AllForYou in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I think we can definitely blame jack, the reason she worked with so many co-writers was literally because she 'doubted her decision making abilities' and I believe the reason she felt that way was due to her constantly ignoring her gut feeling about him all the time. there's also her cfs, and that london house they shared had black mold the landlord just painted over, I'm not suggesting marina is completely blameless for the album being how it is but at this point, six years later, some people are being way too harsh considering all that we know about her circumstances at the time.
this was about adiaml! which I personally believe, it's her quickest release so far and her shortest, then she announced she was going independent on tour.
with the 6th anniversary coming up soon I've been thinking about love + fear a lot. I know plans were probably scrapped due to fan reaction, though I don't think the behind the scenes issues of her cfs flair-ups and arguments with jack (and likely label/management) should be ignored, but I want to know what, if anything, she originally had in mind for the whole 'two collections that are meant to be released separately' schtick.
whilst it feels like a very rushed thing she decided to do three weeks before the album dropped, she did actually talk about it a few months before. she was meant to pick different singles too and that didn't happen.
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by Tana Mongeau in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
You're reminding me of this interview where she was on stage and someone asked her about why she decided to come back to making music and her response was something along the lines of because i want to blah blah then explicitly stated not because i have a contract to fulfill then kinda chuckled. i deffo subscribe to the theory of L+F being rushed to fulfill her contract
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by lvrdve in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
Yeah I agree, I'm not saying that she's completely free of any blame or criticism but I've always found the very aggressive way that people talk about her and her creative output or recent lack of artistry or whatever you want to call it, a little uncomfortable given how open she's been about unknowingly struggling with CFS for years and the plethora of other glaring issues in her personal life.
After thinking about it more, IIRC the contract/label theory was about both L+F and ADIAML. L+F was marketed as a "Double-LP" to try and fulfill the (alleged) remaining two albums on her contract, but I guess that didn’t fully satisfy the label, which is why she quickly followed up with ADIAML, which like you said makes a lot of sense.
I also remember some of the "insiders" alleging that the reason some of the better outtakes were scrapped was because Jesse St. John, who was credited a lot of them, was accused of sexual misconduct.
L+F was such a cursed era particularly behind the scenes and I would really love to know what her original vision for the album was, especially with all the leaked "Aquamarina" visuals.
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lvrdve liked a post in a topic by AllForYou in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I think we can definitely blame jack, the reason she worked with so many co-writers was literally because she 'doubted her decision making abilities' and I believe the reason she felt that way was due to her constantly ignoring her gut feeling about him all the time. there's also her cfs, and that london house they shared had black mold the landlord just painted over, I'm not suggesting marina is completely blameless for the album being how it is but at this point, six years later, some people are being way too harsh considering all that we know about her circumstances at the time.
this was about adiaml! which I personally believe, it's her quickest release so far and her shortest, then she announced she was going independent on tour.
with the 6th anniversary coming up soon I've been thinking about love + fear a lot. I know plans were probably scrapped due to fan reaction, though I don't think the behind the scenes issues of her cfs flair-ups and arguments with jack (and likely label/management) should be ignored, but I want to know what, if anything, she originally had in mind for the whole 'two collections that are meant to be released separately' schtick.
whilst it feels like a very rushed thing she decided to do three weeks before the album dropped, she did actually talk about it a few months before. she was meant to pick different singles too and that didn't happen.
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by Veinsineon in Charli XCX
that's like saying Icona Pop wrote I Love It with Charli ... we know who really did the legwork
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Tasty liked a post in a topic by AllForYou in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I think we can definitely blame jack, the reason she worked with so many co-writers was literally because she 'doubted her decision making abilities' and I believe the reason she felt that way was due to her constantly ignoring her gut feeling about him all the time. there's also her cfs, and that london house they shared had black mold the landlord just painted over, I'm not suggesting marina is completely blameless for the album being how it is but at this point, six years later, some people are being way too harsh considering all that we know about her circumstances at the time.
this was about adiaml! which I personally believe, it's her quickest release so far and her shortest, then she announced she was going independent on tour.
with the 6th anniversary coming up soon I've been thinking about love + fear a lot. I know plans were probably scrapped due to fan reaction, though I don't think the behind the scenes issues of her cfs flair-ups and arguments with jack (and likely label/management) should be ignored, but I want to know what, if anything, she originally had in mind for the whole 'two collections that are meant to be released separately' schtick.
whilst it feels like a very rushed thing she decided to do three weeks before the album dropped, she did actually talk about it a few months before. she was meant to pick different singles too and that didn't happen.
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by lvrdve in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
A lot of people like to blame Marina's psychology courses and her just not having the creative juice anymore for how mediocre L+F and while I'm sure those were contributing factors in some way or another, I personally blame Jack. Even when you ignore the implied issues in their relationship and how they likely affected her personally and creatively, the fact that L+F was the album that she worked on with and centered around Jack-- yet it turned out to be her weakest project with a clear decline in artistry-- suggests to me that he was a major obstacle for her creatively, especially since her music has been improving after their breakup.
Also this could easily just have been fan coping, but I swear there were rumors going around about L+F being rushed to fulfill commitments to her label and contract, and that was in part why it was pushed with so heavily with the "double" album concept.
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by Tasty in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
Let's talk about some good aspects of the worst thing she's done so far in her entire career: LOVE + FEAR
Despite being her weakest project so far, I won't be ashamed to say that it did have some good moments that are worth remembering, such as:
L+F is such an era and project that makes me feel sad because it's an example at how potential can be squandered by really bad decisions. Most of the outtakes had much more potential than the released songs, and some released songs would've been much better if they weren't overproduced and chopped, like You and STBS. I really wish she had kept the original Handmade Heaven concept because I just know the L+F concept was rushed, and some of the least good songs made it into the cut.
#justiceforhandmadeheaven
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by Charlottexseax in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
the same hotel she stayed at later on and then posted on IG lmao...
her best political song is Sex Yeah and there's really no competition tbh! question what the tv tells you question what the pop star sells you question mom and question dad question good and question bad!
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by Sinner Get Ready in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
butterfly fared well with the general public from the looks of it. i’ve noticed those who’d disliked it were only longtime fans who evidently expected much “more” from her. everyone else seemed to enjoy it. i assume Cupid’s Girl will be the same this time around, though there will be less who disliked it and more who enjoyed it judging from the small sample size that is this thread, lol. personally though, judging from the leaked snippet, Princess of Power might be the fan favorite amongst the three singles.
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by PipeDelRey in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
Hello! As you know, I love designing alternative covers, so I changed the one for Cupid's Girl by Marina because I felt a different aesthetic would be better. I hope you like it.
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by lvrdve in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I don't really mind the sound effects either (so far) but it does give me war flashbacks to the children cheering stock sound effect in Life in Strange
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American Whore liked a post in a topic by AllForYou in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I think the LA fires interfered with her original release plans, she was supposed to release something in ‘aquarius season’
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by lvrdve in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I believe she said that something was coming during Aquarius season, not the album specifically and I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be Butterfly but it got delayed and released a little later bc of the wildfires in LA
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The way that this is lowkey the most positive this thread has been during a single's release in years... Diamonds we're finally on our way out of the trenches...
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shay liked a post in a topic by AllForYou in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I think the LA fires interfered with her original release plans, she was supposed to release something in ‘aquarius season’
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lvrdve liked a post in a topic by AllForYou in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I think the LA fires interfered with her original release plans, she was supposed to release something in ‘aquarius season’
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Fireffie liked a post in a topic by AllForYou in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I think the LA fires interfered with her original release plans, she was supposed to release something in ‘aquarius season’
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Embach liked a post in a topic by AllForYou in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
I think the LA fires interfered with her original release plans, she was supposed to release something in ‘aquarius season’
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AllForYou liked a post in a topic by vrtvie in MARINA (and The Diamonds)
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