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I think if you’re a purist, you wouldn’t try to separate her recorded (and unreleased) material into outtakes, really. I have things sorted by year and producer. If I knew exactly the dates and the sessions I would go as far as separating them by that as well. To me, that is the only concrete thing that works for Lana, cause as I said before… She likes to go back to things that were originally done for different projects and revisit them, which is why the leaks of even old material pisses her off so much. The word “outtake” means that it was an actual track done and finalized for inclusion on a certain album. With that in mind, that would not really work for a lot of her unreleased songs in an effective way. We know now that the final Rick Nowels demo of Fine China was mixed and mastered for inclusion on UV. That makes it a LEGIT outtake cause it was actually mixed and mastered and was only removed at the very last minute along with Yes to Heaven. Everything else somewhat falls between Born to Die and Ultraviolence and it’s so hard to tell what they were actually meant for. Because they belong to multiple projects.

I think what people need to let go off is the “Outtake from album XYZ”. I think what we can quintessentially get from this thread is that her recording process doesn’t really work that way. She tends to go back to older and seemingly unrelated material quite a lot and seems to record things when she has some sort of inspirational rush. Then, when she feels that she has enough good material for an album she selects songs from the pool of recordings (old and new) and starts to weave them together through either reworking them or just leaving them as they are. AKA is a reworked product of her actual debut material recorded with Steven Mertens and we know she wasn’t satisfied with the final result at all and frequently refers to the SM version as her “debut”. Born to Die is a remixed compilation of old songs she recorded from 2010-2012 many of them coming from unrelated sessions and even songs potentially written for other artists at first. Paradise is a selection of material recorded at the time her first album was nearing completion along with a bit of new material. A work-in-process EP, essentially. Ultraviolence is a re-recording of several failed attempts of a proper sophomore album. Honeymoon is an album that originally started as an additional EP for the UV re-release that evolved into a whole album after several attempts to have a remixed/redone by other producers. Lust for Life is probably the first TRUE new album that was never linked or related to another project. She was seemingly very inspired at that time and had enough material for much more than just one album. Norman Fucking Rockwell is again, a compilation of new material and a selection of song from previously failed projects. Chemtrails Over the Country Club may very well be a compilation of NFR and LFL outtakes, some much older tracks (LMLYLAW) and a few new songs, all re-recorded and redone. Blue Banisters…well you know. The same as Chemtrails but with minimal effort.

Omg DICWB is probably in my Top 3 unreleased Lana songs. It makes me feel so nostalgic. Beautiful beautiful song!

Thanks for the nominations I personally won't vote, cause I'm not involved enough in the community to actually know any of the people nominated but good luck to everyone!

Yeah, I agree that the post-film Tropico was really just a relic by that time. The TROPICO concept was clearly a "spiritual" theme/concept and she left it as working title but I don't think she was gonna release another EP or album with that title after the film. Also Trans-Am is interesting because the album visuals for ULTRAVIOLENCE are all centered around a car.

I think the fact that Reputation, Lover, Folklore and Evermore weren’t record-breaking albums with massively successful single-releases fucked with her brain. She's a narcissist. Narcissists can't take defeat. They also can't stand seeing others be more popular or successful than themselves. Edit: This acceptance speech is further proof of her blatant narcissism. She won AOTY for a second time over the clear POC-favorite, Kendrick Lamar (WHOM SHE EVEN USED ON A REMIX FOR HER OWN SINGLE TO INCREASE ITS POPULARITY AND SALES!!!). She didn’t take a moment to acknowledge him or her other competitors unlike Adele, who even said that Beyoncé deserved the win. Instead, she gave a speech filled with statistics about her being the only solo artist to win AOTY twice and applauded herself. Then, in classic Taylor fashion played the victim card again and acted like this was some huge triumph for women around the world. 🥴 Flash forward to 2022: She was dying to work with a director famous for groping women on set as well as his niece and is known for his disgusting attitude towards woman. This is the same woman that screamed FEMINISM when it benefited her and talked about how horrible influential men like her arch nemesis Scooter Braun treat women (mind you, she encouraged her fans to bully and threaten him online after he bought her masters). Interestingly, she spends a lot of time thinking about how to take down her female peers with shady actions and antics. If you stan her, you stan the bully. The mean girl from high school who has dirt on everyone and who no one seems to dare to speak up against!

I've already uploaded them in my fan art thread. 🤗

She first mentioned “Tropico” in the description of the original Bel Air visualizer that was released in November 2012. "i lost my reputation, i forgot my truth. But i have my beauty and i have my youth. Tropico the film, coming next year". Then, during an interview she mentioned that Cola was going to be the second single from Paradise but that she also really wants to shoot videos for Gods & Monsters and Bel Air. Later she said (I think it was on one of her tour dates) that she will be shooting a video for BE, G&M and BA because they tell a story together. IF Tropico was ever an album title, it must have already been axed by November 2012. The EP that was released later was an accompaniment to the film, obviously. Releasing an EP with new material would not make sense at all. I think that Tropico was a “place-holder” working title possibly like “Trans-Am” because it reflected a soundscape or a theme she wanted to possibly incorporate into the songs she was recording.

At this point…just leak the album, so we don’t have to bother with Sky's delusional coke-filled ass any longer. Maybe, having the album leaked will give her the opportunity to move on and do something else.

Not this “she tweeted #blacklivesmatter” excuse when literally everyone was doing it in 2020.

Her antics for this album were completely unhinged. I’m glad she has proven once again how fucking obsessed and capitalistic she is.

Are you sure you haven’t been listening to a damaged copy or a karaoke remake version of the album? I literally don’t hear any of the stuff you’re criticizing. Born to Die probably has the most elaborate production of all of her albums.

It did age a little but overall it still didn't age nearly as much as Lorde's album. BTD was meant to have a bit of a hip hop vibe. It's clearly not supposed to be as organic as Ultraviolence but it's a cohesive yet varied sounding album. The fact she even bothered to tie songs from entirely different recording sessions together through Emile's cinematic, yet modern production is the reason she is still here. I agree the album is overplayed at this point but saying that it aged like milk is just not true.

And? She released an album like that with a modern twist in 2013. None of her peers or anyone else made music like that back then. It was a bold move especially since her label constantly tried to push her into the synth pop niche. Pure Heroine got the roses that Born to Die should have gotten. Lorde has a few good songs, I'll give her that but her discography as a whole isn't ALL THAT and she rightfully fell off with album #3.

I have another theory… On the soundtrack of the movie Lolita, there is this song: It could be that she's referencing this song and is saying “ya ya lolita”.

Please…Night Time My Time was totally ahead of its time and while I agree that there are a few good songs on Ghost, they can’t touch the cohesive masterpiece that is NTMT. That album was THE perfect mix of angsty punk mixed with 80s pop. It was fantastic. One of the most overrated and boring albums. There I said it!

This meltdown…chile. It's not her fault she accidentally released the best indie/alt girl album aside from BTD.

Wait I also thought Nikki Lane was old…

Yup Yup Suddenly, Nikki Lane is my favourite artist. Sexclipse

Lana and Mark Ronson not working on Honeymoon together is such a loss to be honest. They totally sound like a match made in heaven on paper but somehow they were bored with each other it seems. Too bad…Terrence could have been everything. Such a snoozefest the way it was released.

I have but I think that might be an idea she had after recording both of the other songs already. Then, she asked Steven to chop them together to see if that could work. I am aware of that. My theory is that the “final demo” is a concept demo made from two previously recorded songs after she had played around with the idea of merging them. So the timeline would be: 1. Trash Magic 2. Miss America / The Man I Love (full) 3. Trash Magic (Piano/Laptop Demo) 4. Trash Magic / Miss America mashup (aka Demo)

Lana preparing to end @111’s reputation in the fandom by exposing his versions as “on demand mixes” and giving us the real versions on Blue Banisters… Eclipse finding out about it and blackmailing her. I know that's what happened.

Imagine if @111 is the reason she stopped working with Rick and abandoned the team she recorded her best material with. And now we're stuck with boring and tuneless piano ballads.

Shall I open another can of worms? I need closure on the Trash Magic / Miss America / (The man I love) mess. That chopped demo of Trash Magic that we have is most definitely composed of two separate songs. I know people claim that that is not the case but you can tell that they weren’t recorded together. It’s mist definitely an experimental concept demo that her and Steve tried. It would also explain why Trash Magic was called “Miss America” at one point: The “new portions” deal with a girl listing typically American things as the only things that are “real” to her. Anyway, I don’t know if there is a full song. I think they may have just recorded new portions to paste into Trash Magic but that demo sounds so fucking wrong. Different pace, different sound quality. It just…it doesn’t sound right and I don’t trust anyone claiming that that is how it is.