sunday afternoon

I don't know, in real life I have been following this forum for a very long time, 9 years now. I'm 28 years old and definitely an old handwriting, I'm not gay either. Just a girl fan of Lana who comes to share her last moments here. But I will run away because I think there is a big difference between you and me and I noticed it. I would read you without making the mistake of posting this time.

Certainly. I love this forum so I will continue to write even if no one reads me. * I really don't care * and the subject is Azealia here so let's talk about her.

Aww it's nice then! I felt a bit like that when I read you

Late reply: yes it is an unpopular opinion so I tried to reread myself as you advised me but I still believe what I wrote. "Sucker" has some crappy lyrics but it's too good and much better than his last albums (apart from Angel Number 1 which remains good). I liked the pop rock sounds and its so 2000 and cliché look. Everything else is a disgusting disgust of unplayable and inconsistent sounds that I tried to listen to again. I couldn't finish everything and I have the same effect as a few years ago: a big vomit. * yes I am running to burn my computer and delete my account *

I had not read your post and I thought the same thing. I don't see her living further away. Or like you I see her involved in some very sordid thing, a person who does that sort of thing is drawn to the dark, that very creepy stuff. The best that could happen to him would be forced internment in a psychiatric hospital or go to prison.

I posted a message here that went unnoticed, but basically I was explaining why I'm no longer Azealia and why I think she was a mess. Bad music for so many years, scandals never end, but we always want to believe in it because we are all a little attached to the musical genius that she created, and that she can create if she wants it, and it's called talent. But let's be honest, his last real good song was on Treasure Island, and it's starting to take a long time for someone who releases * shit * songs regularly. But now, seriously, I can't follow at all. I saw the video and it really shocked me. I can't believe she did something like that, I'm disgusted. Don't come talk to me about "culture", I've never seen that we do that to animals, she's just a madwoman who thinks she has mastered witchcraft and she goes too far in her delirium. I'm sad to say this but she's totally fucked up, fucked up. A witch who loves to go far to make people talk about her, but in fact it goes even further. She casts spells and makes animals suffer for these horrors. Nobody pays attention to her, and she swims in an endless hatred and jealousy. I wouldn't be surprised if one day we learn even more sordid facts. She rehashes her hatred all the time, she is really dangerous and while I have always enjoyed her music and her trolls, it's creepy to see fans approving of this atrocity. I don't know what to say about her at this point, just that I'm sad that it continues like this. I think there is nothing we can do for her anymore and that she got lost forever, her career will never recover anyway. Voila, I listened to myself again in 1991 a while ago and I would always say to myself that it is a huge mess. So I am going to mourn, definitive this time, for Azealia's return to her normal state. She will never come to her senses, nor to the song, too many broken promises. She has sunk into madness and will take pleasure in shocking even more and again, again, until the day she kills herself or someone or an animal live. She is in a corner too dark and too tormented to return to what she was 9 years ago.

It's been a long time since I followed Charli's journey and I don't really like what she released after 2016. To tell the truth, I may be the only one but I loved Sucker and I think it's his best record, I'm not a fan of his new projects which I find redundant, weak with not very good tracks. I know I'm dreaming but I would like her to go back to this pop rock side with nice guitars like Breaking up which reminds teens of the 2000s.

Ahah I hadn't seen that Yes don't worry, it's a habit with me I don't want to disturb (you are French ?)

It bothers me because his first albums which are for me great musical masterpieces did not have the desired recognition. Because at that time, loving or listening to Lana was not "in". Her work was poorly regarded... And yet at this period she was at the peak of her work, of her art, of herself, it was Lana. She gave birth to an icon and to this powerful universe that we love so much. So yes, in my opinion all the critics say the good weather or the rain are annoying because they will always move towards smooth albums, or the artist will play his role of first of the class without going out of the frame, and NFR can define that thought. It's not a bad album (it will always be way above the crowd), but it's clearly not his best from an objective point of view. It's an album where not much is happening and the one that remains the furthest from Lana in the end, and she is accepted and not the rest of her work. The problem is that she must think her work is better by being more generic and will continue on this path, and unfortunately things started badly with her tasteless and boring new producer.

You are absolutely right, and I hope that his future work will not be impacted by this desire to smooth his songs, although that is his choice, it would be a waste. Lana is a rare find and she mustn't lose that.

It kills me that people say that NFR is her best album. I don't understand the hype around this record, it's good but clearly impersonal when you know Lana's deep work. An artist always has to get smooth for critics to approve of their work and that's sad. To my taste Ultraviolence was much more successful and more consistent visually and musically, Born to die also with baroque pop and warm visuals. These two records alone represent the career of this girl. I would be clearly disappointed if Chemtrails ... Club goes in that direction. Jack Antonoff really has to stop working with her, he doesn't know how to capture her world and makes it a mountain of waste.

Strangely, I always hated Oh no! and I never listen to it. I think it was a big mistake to put this single forward. But it's a fun song and Marina was funny in the clip (and yes I kinda miss that young and carefree part of her but time flies and so it is)

I don't know what's going on with her, but it's no longer possible. I can no longer follow her because she is totally rambling. And God knows how talented this woman is, and has the unique creativity that a Nicki or Cardi will ever have. But I don't understand her anymore. His career does not go back and I am disgusted. I can't believe it's the same chick who hyped up magazines all over the world in 2012. Everyone has let go and nothing makes sense, it even hurts me. I have the impression to see a hasbeen struggling and living that she is still number 1 in her head, when unfortunately she burned the candles at both ends. His music has gotten so bad, nothing has been good since the excellent Treasure Island. His photos are cheap and ugly. She has no more means and lives in constant paranoia. She promises an album and then never releases it. The only one to be hyped by her own songs is just herself and it's sad because no one is waiting for her anymore. I know she has mental health issues, but I still hope that she gets away from the networks and FINALLY comes back to music and sanity as it should. Except that every time I am fucking disappointed and there is nothing except stories, quarrels with people who laugh at her. It's sad. He's raw talent and is capable of so many things. Tell yourself that his career took a long time to burn, that is to say how much the industry trusted him until a short time ago. But I can no longer follow her seriously. It tires me and annoys me. I've been waiting for years for an album and still nothing, not even a drinkable mixtape (I'm not talking about his Yung Rapunxel 2 which was infamous and crazy mush). She had so much potential and when I see her beautiful, on top and stylish in 1991 again, I want to cry.

Je suis tellement d'accord avec toi. J'adore le fait que Lana ne reste pas dans sa bulle parfaite et ne s'ouvre pas aux gens, le fait qu'elle soit une personne simple en fait, mais je trouve que ses clips faits maison n'ont plus la même saveur car elle est moins mise en scène et invite trop de monde, ça ressemble plus à un album de souvenirs de vacances sorti sur Instagram. J'adore le fait qu'elle fasse ses vidéos maison mais quand elle est seule ou incorpore un personnage en accord avec sa musique pour que ça ait du sens (comme Barrie pour sa reprise de SW) et surtout avec ses anciens filtres, sinon on se sent tout de suite plus impersonnel et oubliable. Elle me manque aussi lorsqu'elle a sorti de vrais chefs-d'œuvre sous forme de vidéoclips: Ride et son scénario emblématique, National Anthem, Born to Die, voire des jeux vidéo et de la tristesse estivale. Le chef-d'œuvre de Tropico trop sous-estimé! J'espère qu'elle recommencera un jour, avec une Lana iconique, belle et conquérante de l'Amérique de la débauche, avec sa musique empoisonnée sans oublier ses vieillards qui vous font fantasmer. Et je n'aime pas le fait qu'elle mette Chuck partout. Je ne la trouve pas si talentueuse et elle prend les pires photos de Lana, ou les moins spectaculaires. Lana a besoin de travailler avec des personnes spécifiques, elle a une beauté et un style très spécifiques. Neil Krug reste le meilleur photographe pour elle, j'espère qu'il fera ses clips un jour. Mais je sais qu'elle reviendra un jour quand elle sera fatiguée de sa vie ennuyeuse

FROOT is truly musical and visual perfection in Marina's world. A diamond. I always ask myself the question "why doesn't it work more than that?" In fact I'm frustrated when I see that this artist is so transparent, no it's really unfair. Man's world is very good and the views don't take off, grrrrr I don't know what Marina has to do to have a minimum of success, I think she doesn't care today but it still breaks my heart, the same thing when Electra Heart went completely unnoticed while in the top 3 of the best pop albums of the 2010s, hands down. Coming back to FROOT, this album is so good. I regret that this is the last "and The Diamonds", I hope that she will not completely remove all the rather crazy musical touches that were her trademark on her new album and that L + F so lacked. Even Weeds and Gold are little nuggets over time I've grown to appreciate them as I skipped them before.

I oddly liked the interview and I like its frankness. I don't find her so haughty, so many others do much worse and are musical crap. Lana has been modest for quite a long time, so yes I love it when she's simple and down to earth but let's be honest: she's really, really superior to all those artists we hear too much and I love the fact that she shows this that she is, even if that irritates a little. She is aware of her music and does it with an incredible quality-passion that we rarely find. She can take that ego and I don't blame her. After all, she owes us nothing. Let's appreciate the artist and what he has to offer while he's still alive and cut out the rest that isn't music. As for Jack, I hate this guy. Lana's friends are all boring and him too. Another rich boring farting in the silk at every opportunity. It's those clichés of the rich man who finds poor people's activities weird and too cool when one of these friends sets foot there. It is overpriced. Starbucks man hanging out with his disconnected Burgundy girlfriend, talking about spending a day in a popular suburb, and rushing to fill his Instagram with photos he thinks too risky to show his pals he's been through the real life. A cardboard adventurer. Lana is the same I know, but I don't feel that way, at least before. If it rubs off on this guy, it's disappointing. I'm really disappointed that Lana decides to sit with him, her productions are really bland, weak, pretentious and don't bring out anything interesting about her unlike her former producers who were cut out for her. NFR is the album that I like the least, and it didn't deserve the praise because everything is boring in my opinion. Like someone said, either CCOTC is a good record (it won't be great with Jack going to put down his two-chord acoustic piano shit anyway) or it's a real shit. And given the place and who she's heading musically, I feel like it's going to sound like something pompous and overpriced. I hope I am wrong. Obviously as it is less pop and less dark, the critical magazines - which are pure trash cans full - will throw themselves on it to rate this shit 9/10 while they have not stopped pushing BTD (Paradise) deeply and UV which are very very good. No, I still haven't forgiven. I go to bed.

You are right on this point. Her best albums were made when maybe she wasn't well, and now she's at peace with it, so she doesn't need to express herself so much. I hope the fact that L + F didn't work (let alone the previous ones) won't put her off.

I love the clip of Ultraviolence filmed on mobile, I couldn't help but watch it over and over again with those summer colors and this amateur thing that makes me crack at Lana + I hope the next record will not be like NFR otherwise it will be a big disappointment for me.

Oh yes I agree so much. To be honest, Lana never does bad covers. These are perfect.

I apologize for my horrible english lol

Marina is so talented that we have to put a lot of pressure on her. I was disappointed with L + F, except the acoustic clip versions and Handmade Heaven. With Baby, I thought his heyday had finally arrived (the clip has several hundred million views, and continues to air on TV), and then not much happened. She deserves so much more recognition from the mainstream, and I can understand how frustrating it is for someone as creative as she is to be left out when the whole top 50 is filled with shit, and that in addition she gets attacked hard when others release very bad albums and are praised by their non-talent. Actually, she should be as famous as Lana (if you take the alt singers). I think we shouldn't blame her so loudly, even though L + F was disappointing because we all expected an album with a strong character and a strong musical identity like its previous ones, let's encourage it for its next opus. It can surprise us. Like you, I hope for something a little crazy, like in her "and The Diamonds" period, but I think she doesn't want that anymore, she doesn't want to be an extravagant artist anymore ( judge the simple and basic name of Marina, the look, the more serious side and her age). I hope she won't lose all the magic and perfection that made her reputation that said, she can surprise us and take us far with little.

You are painful to reduce everything to sex. No, Lana will never do porn, keep her away from it. Music is music, and this site is made to talk about that

Yes I think this song is not very liked, indeed the opposite would have had more its place here. Thank you very much my friend, happy to finally be part of your community (which I have known for a long time).

These are obviously unpopular opinions. I love Lana with all my heart and I will never hate her because she remains one of the most beautiful artists that the Internet has offered us for a very long time.

Je jette le thé chaud - Born to die est et restera son meilleur album car le plus emblématique et le plus parfait. (et Ultraviolence will be the 2nd forever) - Les photos du tournage Honeymoon (ou on le voit en gros plan) sont affreuses et mettent en évidence ses défauts. Tout est naufrage à cette époque, même son petit ami. - J'ai des doutes sur son prétendu alcoolisme. Cela ressemble un peu à un morceau de son esthétique. Fille perdue, alcoolique qui baise des vieux, tu vois, je n'ai pas l'impression que c'est une image et quelque chose qu'elle croit encore une fois, mais qui ne s'est pas produit. - Je trouve NFR surfait, et je trouve vraiment dommage que les critiques parient tous sur cet album comme son meilleur parce que même si un mauvais album de Lana n'existe pas, ce n'est clairement pas son meilleur. L'ultraviolence aurait dû avoir ce privilège. - Je trouve son album de poèmes (Violet ...) extrêmement surfait par les fans. Oui c'est bien, c'est pur Lana, les visuels sont vraiment beaux et mettent en valeur sa personnalité, mais ce n'est pas connaître la vraie littérature pour dire que Lana est une poète. Elle fait partie de ces filles rêveuses qui aiment tout écrire et tout romantiser, mais c'est clairement maladroit, lourd et cliché à tous égards. Littérature bien écrite pour les fangirls de 15 ans. - Je voudrais qu'elle en dise plus sur la vidéo où elle a été "violée" dans le clip Manson, pourquoi elle a fait ça et quelles étaient ses intentions. - Je n'aime pas qu'elle passe son temps à dire qu'elle a grandi seule et pauvre. Elle n'a jamais eu cette vie et est restée 6 mois dans un parc à roulottes pour «vivre» la vie des pauvres. Le reste du temps, elle avait un loft payé par son père à New York avec ses chirurgies. J'avais vu à l'époque des photos d'elle dans une période timide de Lizzy où elle sortait d'un jet privé avec son père, sa sœur et sa famille. Elle a toujours été privilégiée et peut remercier son père d'avoir payé son producteur Mick Jagger pour BTD. J'adore son univers mais parfois j'ai l'impression qu'elle croit trop à ce qu'elle écrit. - Sa sœur est une pauvre photographe et le rendu est toujours horrible quand elle photographie Lana. Je sais qu'elle aime sa sœur, et c'est plus agréable de travailler en famille, mais je ne vois pas un soupçon de talent en elle à part être la sœur de Lana, ses photos sont impersonnelles et je ne vois aucune différence entre les photos lambda Instagram. D'ailleurs, elle devrait retravailler avec Neil Krug, qui pour moi est la perfection quand les deux se rencontrent, sans oublier les vrais professionnels qui savent la mettre au sommet de sa valeur. - Barrie restera son petit ami le plus inspirant après sa renommée. Le meilleur à mon avis, et celui qui lui convient le plus. J'adore quand elle était avec lui et que ses projets ont été impactés. - Je veux trouver une Lana mélancolique et baroque avec un côté doux et commercial. Je sais qu'elle a évolué dans sa musique mais j'aimerais un album grandiose de BTD: Paradise. - La soif de vivre aurait pu être bonne mais j'ai détesté le fait qu'elle parle de politique, elle n'en sait rien et je n'aime pas les privilégiés qui parlent de choses qui ne les ont jamais préoccupés. - J'aime bien quand Lana parle de religion. Je suis fier qu'elle en soit une et qu'elle soit une place dans sa vie. - Je veux qu'elle garde son univers, son phrasé, sa façon de faire de la musique / vidéo de manière "artisanale" toute sa vie. J'espère qu'elle ne changera pas. - J'aime le fait qu'elle n'ait pas de gros seins vulgaires. Et j'espère qu'elle ne le fera jamais. - Je n'ai jamais écouté "C'est ce qui fait de nous des filles" de toute ma vie, cette chanson m'est totalement inutile je ne sais pas pourquoi. Je l'ai toujours sauté et je pense qu'il aurait dû mettre une autre piste à la place. - "Diet mtw dew" aurait dû être celui avec le verset ajouté dans la version démo. C'est bien mieux que celui de l'album. - "L'autre femme" est une pochette absolument sublime. Peu de gens aiment ça mais j'y reviens toujours, j'aime la vieille voix de Lana. - "Guns and roses" est totalement fade et inutile, il brise la perfection d'Ultraviolence. Comme TIWMUG, je ne l'ai jamais écouté dans son intégralité depuis qu'il existe et je n'en ai pas l'intention. Quand "Fine China", "Your girl" ... ont été éjectés, je n'ai pas compris son choix d'avoir mis ce morceau. - Depuis la fin de la lune de miel, Lana a perdu un peu de ce mystère qu'elle avait dans sa musique.