wilting daisy

beautiful and sweet are nothing alike, not sonically or lyrically

tbh chemtrails is the new underrated one. and i truly believe she'll become a fan favourite just like honeymoon. then we'll have a new underrated record and the cycle will continue forever...

but see how she chose to never work with him again. but at the same time i feel like a lot of it was still lana's vision since she's made a point about putting in a lot of uncredited production work with that record. and dan's vision was definitely more in line with what lana wanted to do than the label's vision was and that risk paying off seemed to also be what gave her the freedom that allows her to do albums full of piano ballads about going to the flea market with chuck so it working out with ultraviolence is what led us to where we are now

if lana is pushed out of her comfort zone, i hope its her pushing herself. i don't like the idea of producers pushing artists and forcing them to abandon thwir artistic vision in favour of something the producer thinks is better or edgier or more groundbreaking. i don't want some self-important guy's vision of lana's art, i want lana's vision of her own art brought to life by any producer willing to respect that vision. if she chooses to experiment and try something new on her own, i'm here for it and if she wants to generally keep to where she's comfortable and just try new things within that comfort zone, i know i'm still gonna love it.

yes and they always worked with the same producer. that's my point. its not a producer's place to create artistic growth. their albums were al different bc they pushed themselves. so if you think lana hasn't grown artistically while working with jack, that's on lana. and the thing is she has been working with othwr producers too and she makes the same kind of music with them that she makes with jack which shows that its just lana choosing to stay where she is. at this point if a producer tried to push her into a direction she didn't like, she wouldn't wanna work with them anymore and the songs probably wouldn't get released. but thwn even with jack she has still grown artistically. he just doesn't force her to do something different and instead lets her come to it naturally. like with jack she made a&w and that was authentic artistic growth bc she came to it on her own and he just helped bring it to life which is all his job as a producer is.

the beatles had the same producer for all their albums except let it be and they're probably the biggest example of an artist or band going thru a lot of artistic growth. tying an artist's artistic growth to whoevwr they're working with takes away all the credit the artist deserves for thwir own growth. its just another way of claiming that jack's in the drivers seat when it comes to lana's music. yes its good to be pushed out of your comfort zone as an artist (to an extent bc you still wanna make art that reflects what you want it to be) but you don't need to switch producers evwry album to do that. lana's artistic growth seems to be directly tied to what's going on in her life. so yeah chemtrails and blue banisters didn't reinvent her sound (but they also weren't rehashes of norman like people like to claim) but it was rhe pandemic and she wasn't going out getting new and exciting experiences to inspire her. but at the same time, this is lana and we all know before she was famous she already experimented with pretty much any sound you could imagine so there's not a whole lot of new ground to tread and she already went thru lots of artistic growth and reinvention before she hit it big so it makes sense that she found somewhere comfortable and keeps returning to it like its the musical home she was looking for and finally found

honestly i'm feeling sort of a dark country jazz with like a twist of avant garde for ldr10 you guys feelin it?

when the musical direction of ldr10 turns out to be moi je joue meets betty boop boop meets scarface

seriously her country covers are the best. stand by your man ate and back in her lizzy days she really rocked both the end of the world and the happiest girl in the whole usa. and the cluple seconds we got of country roads was breathtaking. then the country songs she wrote with nikki were great too. i would die for a stufio version of the prettiest girl in country music. i would seriously be here for a country album. and if she does do a country album, i'm really hoping a studio version of her stand by your man covwr makea the tracklist

maybe she is

jack has literally said that the female artists he works with write all their songs pretty much on their own and he's just there to help bring those ideas to life. but people love giving a man credit for a woman's work. its a tale as old as time.

yeah artists like lana or taylor swift even generally write the entire melodies and lyrics to thwir songs and the producer just helps create the music and is someone to bounce ideas off of. especially with jack i feel like he helps finish thwm their ideas and just talking to him helps them come up with the ideas. and this type of musician-producer relationship has been common for decades but actually crediting someone for writing a guitar riff or helping you edit your lyrics is a fairly new thing. but its a good thing bc lana isn't stealing others' contributions and claiming them as her own. its like her crediting chuck and alana on sweet carolina bc lyrics were inspired by a conversation thwy had or her crediting annie on fishtail for the same reason. but lana still does write majority of her lyrics and melodies and its weird when people think she doesn't

lana saw y'all complaining about piano ballads and said hmmm y'know what these hoes deserve? anothwr piano ballad!

i've realized you're a troll so thwre's no point in replying to you but i can't help myself bc what you say is just so stupid. lana doesn't have big hits, but she definitely doesn't need help. she gets plenty of streams and all her albums sell insanely well. she's not a singles artist, she's an album artist and she has a loyal fanbase who are emotionally invested in her art so she doesn't need to have hit singles to get people interested in her music. joan baez and bob dylan didn't have a lot of big singles but they have more of an artistic legacy than lots of the artists that did top the charts. society is gonna remmber lana more fondly than all the faceless popstars selling thwir souls for number 1 singles for the lowest iq people to enjoy for 15 minutes before moving onto something else. and idk how you can think lana needs someone else to write songs for her to get a hit. if she wanted a hit, she could clearly write one herself. and one that's way better than garbage like unholy. she's written plenty of hits before plus she has a large selection of unreleased pop songs that constantly go viral. the thing is tho that lana doesn't care to have a hit and would rather release music that shw wants to make. and the fact that the music she wants to make is still insanely successful shows she doesn't need business advice from nobodies on thw internet who think they know better than her. at this point in her career she's popular with the gp and thw critics and has still maintained her hardcore fanbase which just keeps getting bigger and bigger. she's one of the top streamed female artists and plays sold out shows. not to mention she sells physical albums better than almost anyone else out there. what more do you want from her? do you want her to be taylor swift or beyonce? bc she seems happy with the success level she has and might even prefer a slightly smaller level of fame at this point. like there's plenty of artists doing what you want her to do and since you're never happy with anything she does, why are you even here? go listen to like ariana grande or somwthing. clearly you'll be happier. but i get the impression you just want to complain and probably feel somw sort of pride from having people disagree with you bc you obviously nevwr got hugged enough as a child.

bc they're clinically insane

“She’s reached a point in her work, which is really my favourite place to work from, where there’s nowhere to go but way out into the fucking wilderness artistically. Go chase radio? That’d be so stupid. Go chase trends? So stupid. She created all the trends. It’s a freeing place, if you can accept it. The only place to go is to be a leader.”

yes she's 5'8 which is tall for women in north america. average is like 5'4-5'5. she's not like taylor swift tall but she's still on the taller end of the spectrum. but those girls couls also be short making it look more extreme

no but seriously i think in the future people are gonna look back on that period as one of the most iconic points of her career

i enjoy all those genres from lana especially surf rock and would love a dark surfy masterpiece, but imo her voice is actually most suited for country music. she even sang her pop songs like thwy were country songs like listen to the isolated vocals from born to die songs and tell me she doesn't sing them like theyre country songs obviously it doesn't mean she has to do country music but it does seem to come naturally for her

from what i'm reading here i'm really looking forward to hearing this song tomorrow!

or maybe we just recognize her versatility and are happy to get a variety of different sounds from her

idk about that. for free is very clearly a folk song not a country song. let me love you like a woman is nowhere even close to country and not even really folk either, more of like a power ballad. and dance til we die i guess the bridge does have some americana grateful dead vibes but i wouldn't exactly call that country and the rest of the song doesn't come close to country either. breaking up slowly still appears to be the only country song. the album is much more folk-adjacent but even still lots of songs aren't folk either, just mellow.

the nikki collab album which hasn't been (nor probably ever will be) released and probably isn't anywhere close to being a fully fleshed out project or chemtrails that has exaclty one country song.... so i'm gonna go ahead and say lana has not released a country album so it would still be somwthing new and fresh for her

@ all of lanaboards, not just you sweetheart

when did lana release a country album?