one time beauty queen

thanks so much for the rec - I plan on reading it for sure

I finished reading 'Play It As It Lays' by Joan Didion & I don't know how to feel. it reminded me of TS Eliots 'The Waste Land' - “I can connect nothing with nothing.” & the final szn of Mad Men (which MUST'VE taken inspiration from it). Its a sad, lonely & desperate novel but stunning.. it's no wonder she is heralded as such a fantastic writer. I'm looking fwd to watching the netflix docu on her soon / checking out more of her novels. besides that, I'm in the middle of 'On The Road' by Jack Kerouac & Leonard Cohen's 'A Ballet of Lepers' rn & will review those when finished

sry i just have to laugh at Lana being held up as the poster child of anti-feminism as a 37 year old woman with no kids or husband, who is famous & makes herself million of dollars. like nauuuuur be fucking for real for 3 seconds & direct that energy towards the "andrew tate is right actually" tiktok b*tches maybe these should be moved to rando discussion thread tho my bad

i'm not glad she's resurrected (on A&W anyway) the hiphop stuff she largely stopped doing after BTD. I've always thought that when she made that aspect of her music too explicit, it gets embarrassing. it's fine as one ingredient in the stew, kind of hovering in the background & when she just flirts with it (as on the Sublime cover), it works. but when she does that sing-songy rapping thing, I cringe. she's so much better as a singer than as a pseudo-rapper

to be honest I can hardly blame Lana for never wanting to straight up adopt the 'feminist' label (despite clearly caring deeply for women & being aware of n regularly pondering on the patriarchy) after one of her first experiences with a self-proclaimed feminist was them throwing a book at her unprovoked lolol... that's one way to shoot yourself along w your cause right in the foot. radical types like that will always drive others away & make it hard for people to want to associate with the "movement"/group or whatever you wanna call it

on the whole imperials vs nelly reference debate one of the interscope girls that was following the oceanblvd account before everyone found it & also in that A&W braiding sesh pic w Lana, posted an IG story with Country Grammar by Nelly playing over it, right at the "Shimmy Shimmy cocoa" bit w the caption "some of y'all be acting like you don't remember Nelly" which to me seemingly hints Lana was obviously more inspired by it than The Imperials song ? imo they would know, having been in the studio w her not to mention Lana confirming "cocoa puff" via tiktok herself.. so yeah I think this is pretty settled

white dress vs blue banisters

you didn't need to either- It absolutely does!!!!!!!

tbh i've been really surprised by the "best thing since Venice Bitch" takes myself (& sorry if i'm repeating myself to some of you bc i shared a similar sentiment in the unpopular opinion thread recently) cause i gotta say VB was trampled long ago for me, I mean I don't even think it's the best on it's own album let alone better than some of the amazing material on COTCC & BB not saying it's a bad song by any means but it doesn't do much for me & maybe i can take some heat off Sadaura in the meantime too oh & im def a ocean blvd> a&w kinda gal it's nice to discuss though & get a look into people's tastes, i've been thinking of doing a general "music questionnaire" thread not exclusive to Lana so we can all get to know each other better in that regard! maybe it would be worth it

Harry Nilsson has a song, his voice breaks at 2:05, somethin' about the way he says "Don't forget me" makes me feel like

that vid is fake as f bc they showed the entire case back&front (an old one they filled w the ocean blvd imagery, w a black & white filter over it at that cuz lord knows their printer couldn’t carry the color / it’s on A4 paper) yet not the disc itself #giveaway & also when they showed their cd player playing the supposed "snippet" at the v beginning you can see the slightest crack before they close the lid & the disc appears to b white.. which it isn't, that cd variant has a pink disc & as other users have pointed out they legit wasted their moms saran wrapalso it sounded like summertime sadness intro mashed up with something else

'I'm a princess, I'm divisive"

these are cute poster concepts, from templeoflana & visionofademigod on instagram also this is killing me: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoubYUQOFSt/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

lost talent as an fbi agent i swear bahahah but no srsly... its u its u its all 4 u (Lanaboards users)

if you hop into your Land Rover/Toyota, you have a 1 hour trek from Arcadia to Jergins Tunnel, 12 of those minutes being between Rosemead & the nearest Ramada .. there is also a DoubleTree by Hilton nearby & it's still part of Rosemead whereas the Ramada is not, it is in South El Monte "Send me a Hilton Hotel" // "I say I live in Rosemead really I'm at the Ramada" "My body is a map of LA"

it only really comes up when I'm listening to those specific songs where she touches on it ( BBS, WFWF, A&W etc.) but sometimes i feel guilty lmao- cause i get what Lana has expressed so far is that she was more or less emotionally abusive as a mother to her (an important detail to remember imo), which is obviously awful & i feel terrible, especially having gone through something similar .. but she's also talked about the karmic lineage/generational kind of traumas so i think she is aware that hurt people hurt people, even completely subconsciously sometimes.. It's very likely something like that which doesn't excuse it but you know, I feel you naturally can feel a slight bit of sympathy at least for a min. I'm able to anyway idk it doesn't matter much but i do hope for Lana that one day when the time is right, whether thats in 2 years or 20, there could maybe a place for reconciliation with firm boundaries set in place. If really too much happened, maybe it's impossible, but at least a reconciliation within her heart for her own sake

ngl sometimes i feel curious about Lana's mom's side of the story don't cook me cuz i feel like this can be easily misunderstood & also #itsnotdeep in the first place

more celeb praise, "must bow down to our lyrical master" lolol

thanks also! yeah it’s def a very raw stream of consciousness track so I get what you mean about the lyrics. as always, over time with more & more listens, different ideas come to the mind - I have my initial thoughts but i wouldn’t be surprised if i am way off or have different ideas a few months down the road. Cheers!

**gonna throw it out there real quick that my previous post as well as this one is all speculation** & in the spoiler to not clog the thread

"I mean, look at my hair- look at the length of it there & the shape of my body" esp when followed by "If I told you that I was raped, do you really think that anybody would think I didn't ask for it, didn't ask for it?" feels a bit like a sister lyric to "I can't help but feel somewhat like my body marred my soul, handmade beauty sealed up by two man-made walls" imo both touch on the same very real notion that society struggles to look beyond the surface level when it comes to a woman, women are reduced & diminished down to their anatomy as well as age n clothing choices & their basic humanity gets destroyed this process. TW for the spoiler, but it made me think of this Andrea Dworkin quote for anyone who is interested

Bride/wifey is a mindset, a vibe #IYKYK

bridal Lana u will ALWAYS b famous