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  1. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by GangstaBoy in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    I should go to bed now
  2. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by Titan in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    leaked_version wanting a hit but dragging anyone that has said that exact same thing in the past
  3. Den liked a post in a topic by WhiteHydrangea in The Paradise and the esoteric origin of mankind   
    hijoeputa concha tu mae se me derritió el cerebro   I wonder if Lana is really into all this stuff  
    Imagine Lana really being in to all this  stuff!! I don't get why people ask her dumb shit but won't ask her this
  4. MahaMaha liked a post in a topic by WhiteHydrangea in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships   
    And I thought Lanalysis was dead! Thank you Jesus and Thank you Valentino
  5. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by Tommi in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    Haha if we seriously get a 'this man inspired me and changed my life' about Francesco I will vomit.
  6. delreyfreak liked a post in a topic by WhiteHydrangea in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    Omg I don't know why you guys keep saying she cancelled a big ass important perfomance on national tv, some concerts and radio shows for no reason   there was obviously A BIG ASS REASON.....
     
     
     
     
     
    SHE CRAVED THE ITALIAN SAUSAGE   
     
     
    she need to spice her pasta    
     
     
     
    i wish to never experience something like that again, Lana throwing her career away for Francisco...    god
  7. theeternalstars liked a post in a topic by WhiteHydrangea in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    Omg I don't know why you guys keep saying she cancelled a big ass important perfomance on national tv, some concerts and radio shows for no reason   there was obviously A BIG ASS REASON.....
     
     
     
     
     
    SHE CRAVED THE ITALIAN SAUSAGE   
     
     
    she need to spice her pasta    
     
     
     
    i wish to never experience something like that again, Lana throwing her career away for Francisco...    god
  8. theeternalstars liked a post in a topic by WhiteHydrangea in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    In the moments of despair, while the forum was down I saw the light. We know the first part of the description is about a poem/song and we speculated that the second one was a lyric but like if you look at the background of the selfie you see that she's on a boat (or whatever) so there you have it. White sails above and nothing but miles and miles of ocean in front of her.
     
     
    Maybe this selfie was taken in the recording of the music video, the one we think was recorded in a boat bc of the pic the hair stylist posted (?)
     
    Or maybe she's just describing what she saw while randomly traveling to the ocean to get inspiration from the fading glamour of the ocean so her muse could finally tell her to write dark blue dark blue in another song from Honeymoom
  9. GodBlessMe liked a post in a topic by WhiteHydrangea in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    In the moments of despair, while the forum was down I saw the light. We know the first part of the description is about a poem/song and we speculated that the second one was a lyric but like if you look at the background of the selfie you see that she's on a boat (or whatever) so there you have it. White sails above and nothing but miles and miles of ocean in front of her.
     
     
    Maybe this selfie was taken in the recording of the music video, the one we think was recorded in a boat bc of the pic the hair stylist posted (?)
     
    Or maybe she's just describing what she saw while randomly traveling to the ocean to get inspiration from the fading glamour of the ocean so her muse could finally tell her to write dark blue dark blue in another song from Honeymoom
  10. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by Valentino in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships   
    The screenshots was simply serendipitous: someone bumped this thread, bringing it to the front page. Unfortunately some of the images beyond the 1st page are broken, so I couldn't use them.
    I found out about Lynn's blog and his flickr through Lanalysis. I also got dates for Mizrahi from there, too. And anything else is just looking stuff up. evil's early shows section helped, as well as this list of interviews I had saved.
     
    And it's good that I get to make this 2nd post because I want to add some stuff about Steven Mertens. Here's a bunch of interviews mentioning him, plus evilentity's world-class sleuthing:
     
    Steve Mertens 1
    In a Lizzy Grant-era piece for the Huffington Post, she told a reporter, “Strangest performance: Alone in a basement for a handsome record executive. Strangest [song] ever written: Back at his office while I was making out with him.” When I ask her if she regrets joking like that, given how often people perceived her as a puppet of some executive team, she says, no, the story was true: “I had a seven-year relationship with the head of this label, and he was a huge inspiration to me. I’ll tell you later when more people know. He never signed me, but he was like my muse, the love of my life.” (JUNE 4 2014, FADER)
    (the referenced interiew is form May 25, 2011)
    2
    You could work with outside songwriters. Are you open to that kind of thing a bit more now?
    Lana: Yeah, I’m more open to it now, ‘cause personally I’m not really feeling it. (Laughs) Like this guy I worked with eight years ago, Steven Mertens, who made my first record [editor’s note: David Kahne is credited as the producer of her debut, 2010’s Lana Del Ray a.k.a. Lizzy Grant; Mertens is a member of the Brooklyn band Spacecamp]. He knew me really well.
    3
    Now, I know you don’t love to talk about this because journalists have sort of mythologized your past but let’s talk about the trailer park you lived in for a few years- I shot you there when you were 22 [my note: 2007] and continued to shoot you there for a couple years while you were writing and entertaining and wrapping up your album with David Kahne. You were so sweet and happy that you had your very own place to write and reside in, and extra money from that $10,000 indie contract. It was also a sad time for you because you separated from Steven Mertens who had originally produced that record and who was your boyfriend at the time. I don’t really have to ask you this because as your sister, I think I already know, but would you say this was your most enriching time as an artist and happiest time in New York (despite the split from Steven.) (GALORE INTERVIEW 2014)
    4 (the saddest one, imo)
    Why did you choose to cover Nina Simone’s “The Other Woman” on Ultraviolence?
    [Sings, “The other woman has time to manicure her nails, the other woman is perfect where her rival fails.”] I relate to being the person who people come to for “such a change from the old routine,” but not being the main thing. I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label and I felt like I was that change of routine. I was always waiting to become the person who his kids came home to, and it never happened. Obviously I had to seek other relationships, and I felt like that became a pattern. I was younger—24, 25 at the time. I had known what I wanted to do for a long time. I had been serious about music since high school, and I stopped drinking when I was 18. (Complex august 2013)
    5
    EVILENTITY ANALYSIS
                    TrailerParkDarling, 16 Aug 2013: Steven Mertens used to play back up w/ her, I guess at various gigs.    
                    He used to w/ Regina Spektor, too
     
    http://web.archive.o...ace.com/4026640

    SitarHero, Aug 16 2013: But no seriously Sirens was 8 years ago and AKA wasn't...like I think she may have just actually referenced it. Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
     
    I totally overlooked the "eight years ago" part at first (    at a possible reference to Sirens or her other early recordings) but I'd been meaning to contact Steven Mertens for months since @Trash Magic and I put some things together about him (which perhaps belong in Lanalysis). When I saw she mentioned him by name in this article, I got on that immediately and sent him an e-mail. I'll report back any response, but please don't bother him in case it interferes with my attempts to correspond with him.
     
    In addition to sharing the bill with her at a Cross-Pollination show, and playing in her backing band as TPD noted (he's the guy that looks sort of like McNulty from The Wire in the Canal Room videos), Mertens has actually been referred to in at least two other interviews with Lana. Remember that Megan and Menace in the Mornings interview?

    When I was young, my boyfriend in the city made my first record. His best friend Jack was Regina [spektor]'s longtime boyfriend. They're married now.
     
    (You can listen here at around 5:20.) Regina Spektor (who TPD notes Mertens also played for) is married to Jack Dishel who was in a band called The Moldy Peaches. Guess who else was in The Moldy Peaches? Steven Mertens. I wasn't completely convinced at first that that's who she was talking about (I thought it was more likely another Moldy Peaches member, Adam Green, since his initials are AG, likely a red herring) until @Trash Magic pointed out something I'd missed-- in that Mizrahi interview she said:
     
    One of the first producers I worked with, Steven Saint, learned a lot from Dick Dale (father of surf music, pre-Beach Boys) so the beginning of the sound was influenced by some sounds from Hawaii and surf guitars, so that’s where the surf comes from.
    A little digging shows that Steven Saint = Steven Mertens (see here and here).
     
    6 (surf music + Steven Mertens is from LA)
    I had a very handsome ex boyfriend from here [interview takes place in California] once. Surf punk rock bands. It was loud all the time in the house, in the car.
    (KPRI interview)
    (also notice she calls him handsome here and refers to the record executive as "handsome," too. Makes me think of For K Part 2: "how you get so handsome, my boy?")
     
    For reference, a pic of Steven Mertens in 2008.
     
    That thing where she mentioned feeling like a change of routine... wow. That got me, honestly.
     
    And now for some more discrepancies...
     
    Who are these people?
     
    RADIO GUY
    I mean you know people always said you know people will come out of the woodwork and change their mind about you. They’ll start to like you ‘cause you’re on the radio. And it is true but I don’t mind ‘cause I’d rather people be nice to me.
    I don’t really care why people are nice to me I just lie it when it’s easier. I just wrote it when this guy that I used to know came back into my life. So now my life is sweet like cinnamon. Cause he came back. (ITALIAN INTERVIEW on FACEBOOK, MAR 12 2012)
     
    RICH GUY
    "It's a song about a man who thought I was one of the most exotic things he had ever seen and me indulging in his appreciation and love. On the outside he was handsome and wholesome, but under wraps he was running an illegal electronic business which ended up taking him and his friends under." (Unknown interview, about MDM)
     
    Like, you know, I used to live a really crazy life and, like, OTTR is one of those songs were you can tell by the energy of it that I’m right in the middle of, like, a relationship where times were happy but also chaotic. We were travelling between LA and Las Vegas, he- I can’t gamble ‘cause I’m not good, he was gambling, I was just swimming. (ITALIAN FB interview, MAR 12 2012)
     
    ALABAMA (this could be Mertens since one of the May Jailer pages listed Alabama as a place and that would've been pre-Lynn)
    I lived down in Alabama with my boyfriend, I lived here in Brooklyn and in Jersey. I’ve been a lot of different people, I guess.” (FADER JULY 2014)
     
    LONG TIME LOVE MAN + EX BOYFRIEND COUCH MAN
    What about love and loss, the other dark note in her oeuvre? “I felt the same way for a really long time, and then I met someone who I guess I fell in love with,” she says. “I just didn’t know I could feel differently. That time with him became sort of a place that I fell back to in my memory.” And the breakup? “Well, I mean, the breakup is a part of it in the way that in the midst of loss you try to still look towards the light and not fall to pieces or do self-destructive things.”
    […]
    Before she goes, I ask her where she lives. She’s looking to buy a place, but for now is in Williamsburg. “Staying with my ex-boyfriend,” she says nonchalantly, then bursts into nervous laughter and admits, “I live on his couch.”
    I give her a look like, You just told me all that about falling in love and breaking up and you’re on the dude’s couch? She pins it on the touring, letting out another embarrassed laugh. “Because no, I’m busy though!” (FEB9 2012)
     
    REHAB ROCK STAR (Jimmy Gnecco?)
    Which lyric are you most proud of?
    There was an older song that you've never heard called "Pawn Shop Blues". [sings] "In the name of higher consciousness / I let the best man I met go / Because it's nice to love and be loved but it's better to know all you can know." Because I remember I'd met someone so special and famous but I knew he wasn't enlightened about how to be a good person. I knew it would get in the way of me becoming a nice person. That's a difficult choice to make.
    How did you meet this famous person?
    Um, it was in a self-help group. [laughs]. He wasn't that famous. I just thought he was famous…
    TV famous or movie star famous?
    Rock star famous.  Just middle of the road ish. To me he was famous because I didn't know anyone who was wildly recognisable. I remember thinking it was exciting at the time. (SEP 19 2011)
     
    VIDEO GAMES MAN (MEN)
    (supposedly VG is about Mike Mizrahi, and he supposedly tried to control her career)
    Lana: Video Games was a song that came after I abandoned all ambition of becoming anyone noteworthy in music. It was only ten months ago. I just wrote it when I felt love again. It was about a time when it was nice to focus on a relationship and simple things; watching your boyfriend play videogames. It sounds sad, but it was sort of happy. I’d let go of the idea of being a singer because things had gone so terribly for so long.(SEP 23 2011)
     
     
    LDR: A boy. I think we came together because we were both outsiders. It was perfect. But I think with that contentment also comes sadness. There was something heavenly about that life – we'd go to work and he'd play his video games - but also it was maybe too regular. At the time I was becoming disillusioned with being a singer and was very happy to settle with a boyfriend who I loved, but in the end we both lost sight of our dreams. Maybe there's something not-so-special about domestic life. (OCT 4 2011)
     
    “The verse was about the way things were with one person, and the chorus was the way that I wished things had really been with another person, who I thought about for a long time,” she says, breaking into an acapella of the song. “‘Swinging in the backyard, pull up in your fast car, whistling my name’. That was what happened, you know? He’d come home and I’d see him. But then the chorus, ‘Heaven is a place on earth with you, tell me all the things you wanna do’ wasn’t like that. That was the way that I wished it was – the melody sounds so compelling and heavenly because I wanted it to be that way. The verse is more matter-of-fact because that’s how it was. It’s a mix of memories and the way I wished it could have been. Just because things happened a certain way doesn’t mean that that’s the way that they are. (Dazed 2011)
    (NOTE: She's said in a more recent interview that many of her songs are like this - the verses about one person and the chorus about another. I am pretty sure she said this about West Coast; I need to track that interview down)
     
    BTD, VG, BJ - a trilogy about one guy?
     
     

    (5:47)Q: I didn't realize until recently that Born To Die, and Video Games, and Blue Jeans, you said they were kind of a trilogy about this one dude and his effect on you and your relationship and what you thought. Is he, Adele-style, is he aware of that? Have you talked to him about that? Is he aware of the reaction it's getting?
    L: What is Adele style?
    Q: She's very vocal about this one person. It's about this person and we talk about it and now we can have a laugh about it, but the time there was so much emotion going on.
    L: He doesn't know. His mother knows. We're in touch. But no. 
    Q: He hasn't pieced it together and gone hey!
    L: Not really.
  11. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by Valentino in LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships   
    Potential Arthur Lynn stuff.
     
    I was looking for an Arthur Lynn blog post and ended up looking through his posts. I noticed he referred to Van Halen as "kings" and the "band that changed my life and kicked me in the balls." He specifically tags them as "david lee roth, diamond, edward van halen." And that reminded me of Mermaid Motel:
     
    'maybe we could go to Suede Tokyo
    See Van Halen at their reunion show
    Heavy Metal hour on TV
    Diamond Dave and Ray Lee'
     
    I mean, there's nothing saying none of her other long-haired boyfriends/paramours/whatever couldn't have liked Van Halen, but:
    Arthur Lynn is confirmed as a boyfriend we have songs referencing his origins (Greenwich) we have songs referencing his favorite drink (Diet Mountain Dew) It doesn't seem odd that this could be a reference to him.

    Lana Del Rey lived in New York City from like 2006 to 2009-ish. Van Halen's reunion tour with David Lee Roth 2007-2008 had a stop in NYC November 13, 2007 and May 23, 2008. Neither of these dates would conflict with her known shows. I don't know when she wrote Mermaid Motel, but she performed it at Arlene's Grocery February 3, 2009, so it's possible for it to refer to the reunion show as a past event (as opposed to a future event).


     
    Ray Lee is currently a drummer for Korn but "served as the drummer of the Van Halen frontman’s solo band from 1997 to 2005, performing on 1998′s ‘DLR Band’ and 2003′s ‘Diamond Dave’ albums."
    I'm still not sure about Suede Tokyo. There is a band by the name of Suede and they have indeed performed in Tokyo, but I don't know why Lana would refer to that. More educated people, help?
     
    So I'm speculating Mermaid Motel is about Arthur Lynn. Which brings me to something else...
     
    One site listed Lynn's interests as such (trying to find the site since, like an idiot, I just saved the interests). Pay attention to the bolded ones.
    music, girls, guitars, america, diet mountain dew, van halen, ice cream, photography, jersey, angiescreams, indian summer, woods, food, freckles, the sun, the moon, seasons, amplifiers, family, friends, karma, october, yo mama, yo mama's apple pie, and those little people we call doggies
     
    JERSEY
    Note his blog is subtitled "thoughts from a jersey boy." His flickr lists his hometown as Jersey but "currently" (not sure when screenshot was taken) Greenwich, CT. I was already pretty sure that Motel 6 was about Lynn due to DMD references, but "to Jersey with love" makes more sense now.
     
    MORE VAN HALEN STUFF + CONEY ISLAND + YOUR MOM:
    This is the most recent screenshot I’m showing – we’re going in reverse chronological order, from ‘last login date.’
    In this screenshot from her Lizzy Grant MySpace, url therichwhores, she lists Diamond Dave as an influence (along with Britney Spears and motorcycles, two other lasting influences). Notice she lists her location as New Jersey. Also notice that she describes her music as metal - not a musical genre I would put any Lana Del Rey song in, ever. I wonder if Arthur Lynn, who could conceivably be the one into "heavy metal hour," influenced her calling her music "metal."

     
    She's still therichwhores here, but her location is now Alabama. Her genre is glam, blues, experimental. No metal – not yet, anyway. David Lee Roth is one of 3 influences, along with Britney Spears and motorcycles.
     

     
    The earliest Rich Whores screenshot I’m showing. In this one, she lists David Lee Roth and Coney Island as influences... along with "your mom." Yeah, just like Mr. Lynn listed "yo mama." Britney and motorcycles remain, but the other influences have shifted. Arthur Lynn is explicitly listed as a member here. She's living in New York now. (aside: pretty things is an influence here. we'll see that again later)

     
     
     
    AMERICA
    Lana said this about one of her ex-boyfriends:
     
    Lynn loves rock and roll, that's perfectly clear. But what distinguishes him from Gnecco or Carney or other musical liaisons? Well, the 4th 'like' listed by Lynn was America. It's a weak connection, but I don't think we've ever tied that comment to any other boyfriend. Lana didn't always talk or sing about America. Her May Jailer era stuff, for example, seems more focused on the details of personal relationships than concepts like America or archetypes like the gangster boyfriend. I don't know when Lana started playing with Lynn, but it'd be curious to see if that date coincides with an increasing number of references to Americana. If we assume Mermaid Motel is about Lynn, then we also have a connection to Coney Island, another interest of hers that you don't see mentioned in the early days.
     
    To see how big the change from her May Jailer stuff to her Lizzy/Lana stuff was, let's look at more MySpace pages...
     
    Folk, acoustic, experimental! Only one of these genre descriptors survived into the post-May Jailer MySpace descriptors. Her influences are Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg, Nirvana, Leonard Cohen, Radiohead... only Nirvana is repeated as an influence in the later MySpace page, although Daniel Johnston seems to be in the vein of singer-songwritery stuff.

    A year later (according to last-login date) and "Cony Island" (sic) and "pretty things" have been added as influences. She's now experimental, blues, folk - the acoustic part is gone. Another mid-2000s screenshot shows "Bread and Oranges" appearing alongside Money Hunny, Fordham Road, and A Star for Nick. It now has its final name, Pawn Shop Blues, and For K Part 2 has shown up - the LDR album appears to be forming (Jump, Kill Kill, and Put Me In A Movie show up in the Lizzy screenshots above).
     
    The last login date for this one is 5/17/2007, whereas the last login date for the earliest Rich Whores page is 12/12/2007. It appears to be a transitional state, not just with regards to her layout, but also her name and influences. The music is less acoustic. Coney Island starts showing up, as well as motorcycles and Van Halen. Metal inexplicably becomes a descriptor.
    Would fit in pretty well with Arthur Lynn showing up… just sayin’. 
     
    (one last thing... under band members, she lists "TAGS & TIM." Who are these people?)

     
    CONCLUSION?
    From 2007-ish to maybe 2009-ish, Lana dated Arthur Lynn. Arthur Lynn may be the boyfriend who loved rock-n-roll and America. Before his introduction into her band (and we don't know when they met, so they could have met before Lynn was part of the Rich Whores), Americana references were rare in her music, she made singer-songwritery stuff about people's lives, and she basically had a very different persona. Lynn becomes part of the Rich Whores, she now likes Van Halen, specifically David Lee Roth and the album Diamond Dave, Coney Island (all mentioned in Mermaid Motel), her music is described very differently (metal, really?; and glam), she somehow picks up on his jokes (yo mama)... I think he was an influential boyfriend.
     
    Oh, and to tie this back to other boyfriends...
     
    According to the Galore interview by Chuck, Lana broke up with Steve Mertens when she was 22. So 2007?
    Lana mentioned a seven-year relationship with a record producer in the 2014 Fader interview and I think Mertens is the only one who could potentially fit that.
     
     
    Which would make the timeline of that relationship 2000-2007. Which means she would have been 15 when she started dating Mertens... If Mertens is the 7 year relationship (and I don't think any of the other ones could be that relationship), then that means she would have had 4 major ex-boyfriends.
    Mertens 2000-2007.
    Lynn 2007 to 2008 or 2009
    Mizrahi 2009 to 2011
    Barrie 2012 (?) to 2014
     
    Thoughts? It's like early in the morning and I've spent a couple hours doing this, so I'd like fresh eyes.
  12. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by Divisive Princess in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    But do you really think that's the ONLY promo she's doing for the album? I don't even think the era has begun. We know it's 'alive and breathing', but there's nothing really to promo yet. Is she supposed to perform on a late night show when there's no single and no album to promote as of now? As I've said before, the snippets do not make us entitled to get new music right this second.
     
    Also, I don't think the instagram is try-hard at all. I think it's just something fun she's doing on the side and honestly, I welcome the little bts posts and extra selfies as opposed to her usual absence. Who cares if she posts 100 selfies a day and 50 pictures of her staff? In the long run, it's not going to make the music come out any faster, so why don't people just chill out and enjoy the fact that she cares enough to even show us these things.
     
    And I do care about Lana beyond the music. I think she's interesting and that's why I like interviews and instagram posts and, no, I don't think that makes me delusional at all. I wouldn't spend 5 of my paychecks and travel to see her if I only liked her for her music. 
  13. Kommander liked a post in a topic by WhiteHydrangea in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    In the moments of despair, while the forum was down I saw the light. We know the first part of the description is about a poem/song and we speculated that the second one was a lyric but like if you look at the background of the selfie you see that she's on a boat (or whatever) so there you have it. White sails above and nothing but miles and miles of ocean in front of her.
     
     
    Maybe this selfie was taken in the recording of the music video, the one we think was recorded in a boat bc of the pic the hair stylist posted (?)
     
    Or maybe she's just describing what she saw while randomly traveling to the ocean to get inspiration from the fading glamour of the ocean so her muse could finally tell her to write dark blue dark blue in another song from Honeymoom
  14. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by Divisive Princess in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    Lana: *Doesn't post anything on social media*
     
    Fans: *Get pissed at the silence*
     
    Lana: *Shows important people in the development of an album that she obviously cares a lot about on an instagram made specifically for said album*
     
    Fans: "Wow she's teasing us and her promo sucks. Can she just release music already instead of these instagram posts?? This is so boring. Who's next? The mailman?"
     
    I know not all of the comments about the instagram are said in a malicious manner, but damn, the girl really can't win. 
  15. delreyfreak liked a post in a topic by WhiteHydrangea in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    In the moments of despair, while the forum was down I saw the light. We know the first part of the description is about a poem/song and we speculated that the second one was a lyric but like if you look at the background of the selfie you see that she's on a boat (or whatever) so there you have it. White sails above and nothing but miles and miles of ocean in front of her.
     
     
    Maybe this selfie was taken in the recording of the music video, the one we think was recorded in a boat bc of the pic the hair stylist posted (?)
     
    Or maybe she's just describing what she saw while randomly traveling to the ocean to get inspiration from the fading glamour of the ocean so her muse could finally tell her to write dark blue dark blue in another song from Honeymoom
  16. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by Wynwood in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    i want sassy National Anthem lana
  17. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by Lanakai in The Source Family, Ultraviolence & Lana Del Rey   
    "I’m one of the very few who kept his picture up.  I’m the only one of his women that stayed his woman [in the way that I did it].  For the past 40 years, I became an Aquarian nun; I haven’t been with any other man–that means I’ve been celibate.  And in great joy, and it was my choice; it wasn’t hard.  It’s just, I was still connected with him.  I have been working with him."
    http://www.monsterfresh.com/2013/12/04/isis-aquarian-interview-source-family/
     
    "We had a very strong understanding, and he had me by the nape of the neck and I knew I wasn't done. I remained his wife, and I became, it wasn't on purpose – but I became what they call, an Aquarian nun."
    http://realitysandwich.com/139810/isis_aquarian_father_yod/
     
     
    - Isis Aquarian on Father Yod
     
     
     

  18. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by Lanakai in The Source Family, Ultraviolence & Lana Del Rey   
    From IMDB: The Source Family was a radical experiment in '70s utopian living. Their outlandish style, popular health food restaurant, rock band, and beautiful women made them the darlings of Hollywood’s Sunset Strip; but their outsider ideals and the unconventional behavior of their spiritual leader, Father Yod, caused controversy with local authorities.

    Before we journey down the rabbit hole that is the Source Family, their leader Father Yod and the influence all of this may have had on Lana Del Rey and her album Ultraviolence, here is some background information of who they were and what they did:
     





    There are also many excellent articles on Jim Baker, Father Yod and the Family available online. While I will be linking some of them here as references, I will mostly be focusing on the Family and their own personal interpretations of what was going on during the time they were active as I believe this is where Lana gathered most of her inspiration from. There are a lot of negative articles written about what actually was going on behind closed doors at the Family homes and while I'm sure some may be accurate, and will lend support to some theories, the writers of the articles were not a part of the Family and did not experience first hand what went on. While most former Family members do have criticism toward Jim Baker, the man, they speak very highly of Father Yod as their Earthly Spiritual Father, enough so that I don't doubt they would embellish. I recommend reading all evidence and articles with a grain of salt as all of it is personal anecdotes and there is no solid facts to back up any claims made.
    I encourage every member of Lana Boards to dig in and discover any other pieces of evidence you may find regarding this topic. I will add to this post as new evidence is found with credit to the finder!

    Here is the original post that I made in the Ultraviolence lyrics thread so please have a look at that for an idea of what started all of this:

    http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/4684-ultraviolence/?p=198053

    So hopefully now you have an idea of the Family, we'll jump into the evidence we have. Some of it will be stuff that I and other users have already posted on the UV thread, some will be new. Please note, this section will be updated as more info is discovered.

    The Source Family and their Influence on Ultraviolence

    General Evidence



    Lyrical Evidence
    While I believe some songs on UV are inspired by the Source Family, I don't think that all songs were inspired by them. So you won't see Old Money on this list for example, as it is clearly written for the Great Gatsby, inspired by the character of Daisy and written as an epilogue to Lana's Young and Beautiful.

    I also believe Lana is inspired from many different things and she weaves them into her own story, either by becoming who she is writing about or imagining herself in a similar situation. She has said before that is in the habit of writing about several things in a song and tying them all together. For example, Video Games being about two different men, etc. So while some lyrics fit the Source theory, others will not as they are probably influenced either by her life or something else.

    Cruel World



    Ultraviolence



    Shades of Cool




    Brooklyn Baby



    Aesthetic Evidence
    This section is about the pictures used for Ultraviolence vs pictures from The Source Family Archives as well as the soundscape Dan Auerbach and Lana came up with. Lana had stated that her new take on the UV album was "Unlistenable" with many different sounds, tempo changes, etc. Some of the Ya Ho Wha recordings sound very similar to how Lana re-did UV with the layered sounds, experimental vocals and tempo changes.

    Sound



    Visuals



    As I stated above I will continue updating this post with more evidence as I find it. Please feel free to post any similarities you might find and I will happily add it with credit to you!
  19. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by a11111 in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    let's stop this nonsense and talk about how Lana is managing her new era on a 150k instagram account
  20. delreyfreak liked a post in a topic by WhiteHydrangea in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    I thought I was the only one who missed him
     
     
     
    anyways. Min 29:40 https://youtu.be/ZtgBnWWVngg
    Does she really say July because if so we've been talking shit about a release date all this time
  21. WhiteHydrangea liked a post in a topic by lazybooklet in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    inb4 Lana only moves to HONEYMOON because she doesn't know how to change her own username 
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