Crimson and Clover

Tbf I wasn’t really one to think Venice’s lyrics were super deep but honestly i find its simplicity charming (especially when you’re trippping), it’s full of 70s references that are kinda shoehorned in but I think it works. Didn’t really care about the ice queen lyric until I found out that it refers to a newspaper article written about her calling her that. I find that the simplicity makes sense for the song’s dream pop genre. For White Dress I don’t think the lyrics will be that simple (especially if it’s a piano song) but more on the melancholic nostalgic side (I think eclipse lowkey confirmed this)

don't be afraid of allah

not all who wander

he didn't touch TNBAR though..

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understandable but the fact that sia flat out telling an autistic person on twitter "maybe you’re just a bad actor" was in such bad taste obviously i don't know the difficulties of casting and what not, but she/her pr team really should have seen this coming. i also think sia would've chosen maddie over any other more than capable actor because she has an obvious attachment to her, she's been the main character in Sia's works since like 2014. kinda weird but expected at this point

ms girl is probably in the middle of the woods in alaska rn i can't see any announcement coming today

bjork

not me seeing this and thinking lana did some charity work back in 2013

honestly venice is an every mood song for me (except for anger), even though i can see it as a love song, it's mainly a song about reminiscing about the past and I view it as bittersweet/melancholic albeit soothing as well. so if white dress is really about her lizzy days, i can see how the two can go hand in hand if they're both about nostalgia in a way.

the way white dress might be out on streaming an hour i get off of work - a true gift <3

i've been looking at some alt-country/americana stuff trying to see how the folkish part of COCC might sound like, found THIS and honestly I'd love a more downtempo song like this omg why can i see 'not all who wander are not lost' having this heat

honestly yeah, it saddens me

really wondering if any of the songs on COCC will sound like this omg

let’s not act like COCC pre-release thread isn’t really the NFR post-release slander circlejerk thread

this sounds like YTH in simlish

this will probably be completely off lmfao TR: emotional Sucker: blame it on your love XCX: enemy N1A: caught in the middle Pop2: Take My Hand Charli: I Wanna Be With U HIFN: unlock it

honestly i'd rather lana travel than hold book signings and such it seems like so many celebrities are travelling w/o repercussions but that's the privilege that comes with the status i suppose

i lowkey have always wanted to visit alaska because it seems so nice/cool compared to the rest of the US (though i've literally never seen snow fall before so I feel like I should go somewhere more gentle before I go to the last frontier ). I wonder if she's there for the northern lights?? definitely wanna visit after COVID

not that old but

I mainly hear these lyrics, Crowley way of being makes more sense for me on Get Free because she cast that spell on D Trump. I hear Life's Dream more on VB but it would make more sense for it to be livestream tbh. For Swan Song, I hear "Dive in, dive deep in dark blue suede." I think it's more of her visual imagery (like "I dream in jeans and leather"), suede is basically a velvety leather material so it provides dark blue (deep, sad emotion) velvety imagery I guess?

I wouldn't say they're similar but more so inspired/influenced and definitely agree that Lana has not copied them in any way (same thing with how Velvet Underground inspired some aspects of Mazzy Star but their songs aren't really that similar). like I said, I feel like most of the influences are seen in MAC (alt country)/VB (dream pop + neo-psychedelia + slowcore) and additionally in the dream pop/neo-psych aspects of UV, which really remind me of So Tonight and Among My Swan, which I would argue are pretty influential albums from their time. I would argue that Hope's songwriting can be metaphorical and poetic as well (thinking of Unreflected + her solo work), but I guess that's more subjective. then again, I was talking more about influences and not similarity, they're separate artists.

im actually curious to know if Lana has cited Mazzy Star/Hope as an influence to her music before? all I can remember is Hope being like "I don't know who that is" when she was asked about Lana to me the influences feel kinda obvious, especially with MAC/VB. but yesss i always imagined COCC sounding like she hangs brightly after she mentioned it being more country/folky. always hoping that Lana will follow in their footsteps in dream pop and even the occasional shoegaze influence