MARINA (and The Diamonds)

[The Stargirl Pinky 73,837]

As a Marina fan, this one fell completely flat for me. I’m looking forward to seeing what other snaccs she’s bringing to the potluck but she needed to go back to the kitchen on this one. Undercooked and stale even Gordon Ramsay would be gagged

[ChaoticLipster 24,912]

It’s like I asked AI to create a typical Marina song, what we all need is something as off the wall as TFJs

[brandon 13,726]

Thinking about how good Ancient Dreams title track is…. like wow she nibbled a bit on that one 

 

 

the serve it would’ve been if she had super cohesive visuals for that era…. the vintage superhero thing is so cunt 

 

there’s a reason it’s her most viewed video from that era! despite (probably) being the lowest budget 

[ultrablvd 48,736]

SO I FLY

I FLY 

I FLY 

INTO THE LIGHT

IM GONNA FLY LIKE YOUVE NEVER SEEN

THOUGHT U DID BUT U DONT KNOW ME

TOO BAD YOULL NEVER SEE

THE COLOURS INSIDE ME
 

[vrtvie 2,347]

46 minutes ago, brandon said:

i don’t think anyone’s expecting her to repeat EH…. i just want her to be a good songwriter again LOL and honestly? i prefer orange trees 

she didn't write orange trees alone

[ultrablvd 48,736]

sorry im absolutely eating this last extended chorus and outro up  oh mariner don’t make me stream you!

[brandon 13,726]

2 minutes ago, vrtvie said:

she didn't write orange trees alone

i didn’t say she did? they were two separate statements… 😭 

 

also? idgaf how many songwriters are on a song - so when i said “i want her to be a good songwriter again” i meant that as in…. i want her to be able to recognize what’s good songwriting again. and sometimes that means recognizing that maybe you could benefit from a co-writer 

[vrtvie 2,347]

2 minutes ago, brandon said:

i didn’t say she did? they were two separate statements… 😭 

 

also? idgaf how many songwriters are on a song - so when i said “i want her to be a good songwriter again” i meant that as in…. i want her to be able to recognize what’s good songwriting again. and sometimes that means recognizing that maybe you could benefit from a co-writer 

oh okay, just thought you didn't notice. but i do think as well that marina writes miles better when she's challenged by another co-writer.

[brandon 13,726]

2 minutes ago, vrtvie said:

oh okay, just thought you didn't notice. but i do think as well that marina writes miles better when she's challenged by another co-writer.

its weird too, because i do think froot is overall her best work and that was self-written so? maybe it just depends on where she is in life. i know with froot she really had something to prove so maybe she just REALLY gave it her all, but, if she insists on writing alone, i wish that passion and drive was still evident 

[vrtvie 2,347]

Just listened; I do like the chorus, the rest is messy: intro is really bad, and neither bridge nor outro impress me enough, the instrumentalisation is unbearably simple which contradicts any TFJ or FROOT the song sentiments. Feels like it needs a radio mix or something, a weird lead single choice. We went from her listing places in To Be Human and Ancient Dreams to her listing colours now, okay?

 

Sonically reminds me of Blue, sorta. But why is it a lead single, when it's neither ambitious nor pop enough? Thought she would enter a cunty era but currently it feels more clowny.

[brandon 13,726]

sidenote. i really wonder why the girls aren’t employing rick nowels anymore… 

 

like he was the max martin of the alt girls… lana… stevie.. marina…. 

[Life 4,028]

The pitched vocals really doesn’t do it for me still I think lyrically it’s just a really awkward section and it just doesn’t work. They should have been more background vocals than the lead for that bit, but hey ho. 

[vrtvie 2,347]

2 minutes ago, brandon said:

sidenote. i really wonder why the girls aren’t employing rick nowels anymore… 

 

like he was the max martin of the alt girls… lana… stevie.. marina…. 

 

She should've made Love + Fear with Rick Nowels. All of it. He'd save it. He'd slay vulnerabie songs with her - Marina's I Never Learn/Ray of Light where? - and take care of the sonical mess the tracks are and handle it with grace just like he did on Honeymoon with Lana. Make it work.

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7 minutes ago, brandon said:

sidenote. i really wonder why the girls aren’t employing rick nowels anymore… 

 

like he was the max martin of the alt girls… lana… stevie.. marina…. 

 

it's baffling... he has so many unreleased songs with artists/bands and none of it just come out? i can assure you it's not a case of not being employed. im so sorry papa nowels

[brandon 13,726]

13 minutes ago, vrtvie said:

 

She should've made Love + Fear with Rick Nowels. All of it. He'd save it. He'd slay vulnerabie songs with her - Marina's I Never Learn/Ray of Light where? - and take care of the sonical mess the tracks are and handle it with grace just like he did on Honeymoon with Lana. Make it work.

Right! There only being one Rick song on that album is such a tease… it was the perfect album for him to work on 😭😭

 

Ugh the production on that album always upsets me so much, it’s so boring, but rick? oh boy he would’ve made it sound like heaven 

[brandon 13,726]

6 minutes ago, 111 said:

 

it's baffling... he has so many unreleased songs with artists/bands and none of it just come out? i can assure you it's not a case of not being employed. im so sorry papa nowels

looking at his recent discography is so depressing. it’s all the most random ass songs that no one is listening to. tiesto? dj khaled? tones and i? this man writes pure poetry and THESE are the songs getting released? (and most of them just being interpolations of his older stuff)

 

always very peeved kali just.. threw all their songs in the trash.

[vrtvie 2,347]

gimme love, gimme dreams... gimme everything, all your heart can bring, something good and true - i don't wanna feel blue... anymore (blueee)

 

now i'm leaving you behind, behind... yeah i'm a butterfly, you've just never seen my energy, i'm already high - floating on a breeze... but i fly (flyyy)

 

[Demonmic03 12,433]

12 minutes ago, brandon said:

looking at his recent discography is so depressing. it’s all the most random ass songs that no one is listening to. tiesto? dj khaled? tones and i? this man writes pure poetry and THESE are the songs getting released? (and most of them just being interpolations of his older stuff)

 

always very peeved kali just.. threw all their songs in the trash.

Listen to David Kushners new album. All of it is produced with / written with Rick nowels and omg it's amazing

[Embach 49,890]

Tbh I love the production on most LF tracks because of it's semi-electro-minimalism (can't specifically describe that). Not talking about Baby or Enjoy Your Life or something but look at Emotional Machine, Handmade Heaven, Soft To Be Strong, End Of The Earth, To Be Human, Believe In Love, Too Afraid, even Superstar. They sound so crystal clear, smooth like silk in water.

 

I still dunno why am I still so soft on Love + Fear but I guess it had a huge impact on me.

[vrtvie 2,347]

2 minutes ago, Embach said:

Tbh I love the production on most LF tracks because of it's semi-electro-minimalism (can't specifically describe that). Not talking about Baby or Enjoy Your Life or something but look at Emotional Machine, Handmade Heaven, Soft To Be Strong, End Of The Earth, To Be Human, Believe In Love, Too Afraid, even Superstar. They sound so crystal clear, smooth like silk in water.

 

I still dunno why am I still so soft on Love + Fear but I guess it had a huge impact on me.

This crystal clear vibe is what she shoulda stayed with. I like it a lot but this tropico vibe elsewhere is off putting admittedly and why is this all mixed in one single project sends me.