Lana Del Rey and Quavo “Tough” - OUT NOW!

[rosemead ramada 6,715]

5 hours ago, Lana Del Dufrene said:

The only good remixes by Lana are her radio mixes

truth

(actually I really love the Nick Warren Vocal Remix of Summertime Sadness)

[moneynotorietyrivieras 101]

6 hours ago, barttttender said:

 

 

Yeha, but they gave "Shake It Off" a Grammy, babes. Let's get real. That whole album won a Grammy. Mozart, if he was alive today, would be second banana to that

Fair asf 

[longtimeman 8,918]

4 hours ago, rosemead ramada said:

I listened to the first 40 seconds of the remix and said that was enough

Am I missing anything?

Just a headache.

[barttttender 4,951]

12 hours ago, X8vinylScratchX said:

Looking at the history of the Grammys, the only logical conclusion is that this award ceremony is illegitimate and being ran by 45 year old wine moms and 60 year old business executives trying to fit in with the times. The grammys are only as important as the attention people give them, and people really need to stop paying attention to these rigged nepo fart fests

 

 

100%. While the Oscars have managed to maintain some level of artistic integrity and credibility by continuously shunning cheap entertainment (popcorn flicks, Adam Sandler, Marvel, DC), the Grammys have been all-in on trash music for a good while.

 

The music industry and their advertisers, the media and the fashion machine will still find the Grammys relevant, of course. After all, it's a highly publicized event and a well-oiled machine that enough people tune into into (for the sheer spectacle of it, and to see their favorite artists perform), resulting in the sales of cars, perfume, whatever.

 

But they have NOWHERE near the repute of the Academy. Which still, after all these years, manages to give Best Picture to arthouse films like Moonlight or foreign masterpieces like Parasite that aren't even in the English language.

 

Personally, I'd rather Lana win an Oscar for Alice (if she goes there), or another movie later down the line. I'm absolutely fine with her never, ever winning a Grammy. Leave that to the Katie Fucking Perries of of the world.

[JDaniel 996]

1 hour ago, barttttender said:

 

 

100%. While the Oscars have managed to maintain a certain level of artistic integrity and credibility by continually avoiding cheap entertainment (blockbuster movies, Adam Sandler, Marvel, DC), the Grammys have been banking on trashy music for quite some time.

 

The music industry and its advertisers, the media and the hype machine will of course always find the Grammys relevant. After all, it is a highly publicized event and a well-oiled machine that enough people tune in (for the sheer spectacle and to see their favorite artists perform) that it translates into sales of cars, perfumes, etc.

 

But they do NOT have the same reputation as the Academy. The Academy, after all these years, still manages to award Best Picture to arthouse films like Moonlight or foreign masterpieces like Parasite that aren't even in English.

 

Personally, I'd rather Lana win an Oscar for Alice (if she gets it), or another movie later. I totally agree that she never, ever wins a Grammy. Leave that to the Katie Fucking Perries of the world.

what is it Alice please

[Embach 42,323]

23 minutes ago, JDaniel said:

what is it Alice please

In 2019, Lana said that she has written a song for a new Alice's Adventurea In Wonderland movie but we haven't heard nothing about the movie or song ever since

1 hour ago, barttttender said:

 

 

100%. While the Oscars have managed to maintain some level of artistic integrity and credibility by continuously shunning cheap entertainment (popcorn flicks, Adam Sandler, Marvel, DC), the Grammys have been all-in on trash music for a good while.

 

The music industry and their advertisers, the media and the fashion machine will still find the Grammys relevant, of course. After all, it's a highly publicized event and a well-oiled machine that enough people tune into into (for the sheer spectacle of it, and to see their favorite artists perform), resulting in the sales of cars, perfume, whatever.

 

But they have NOWHERE near the repute of the Academy. Which still, after all these years, manages to give Best Picture to arthouse films like Moonlight or foreign masterpieces like Parasite that aren't even in the English language.

 

Personally, I'd rather Lana win an Oscar for Alice (if she goes there), or another movie later down the line. I'm absolutely fine with her never, ever winning a Grammy. Leave that to the Katie Fucking Perries of of the world.

Period. I think that winning an Oscar would be more important for her career than the Grammys. While Oscars have had very disappointing snubs and even with Lana (looking at you Young & Beautiful, Big Eyes), I feel like she has higher chance winning that than a Grammy (like in the major nominations, like AOTY, SOTY, ROTY, usually the soundtrack Oscar winners have won the soundtrack Grammy as well). Grammys are MTV-level TikTok commercial joke, I can't take the voters seriously at all. For movies, Golden Globes or Critics Choice Awards share maybe that commercial/media appeal what Grammys have and even in those awards Lana has lost...

[JDaniel 996]

14 minutes ago, Embach said:

In 2019, Lana said that she has written a song for a new Alice's Adventurea In Wonderland movie but we haven't heard nothing about the movie or song ever since

Period. I think that winning an Oscar would be more important for her career than the Grammys. While Oscars have had very disappointing snubs and even with Lana (looking at you Young & Beautiful, Big Eyes), I feel like she has higher chance winning that than a Grammy (like in the major nominations, like AOTY, SOTY, ROTY, usually the soundtrack Oscar winners have won the soundtrack Grammy as well). Grammys are MTV-level TikTok commercial joke, I can't take the voters seriously at all. For movies, Golden Globes or Critics Choice Awards share maybe that commercial/media appeal what Grammys have and even in those awards Lana has lost...

thank you for the clarification syr Alice but we are still very far from the Oscar with this unknown piece of an unknown film 
I fear that regardless of the extreme quality of his works, they are far too unpopular,

for various reasons that I would not post on this thread, to achieve a reward of this order

[barttttender 4,951]

9 hours ago, Embach said:

In 2019, Lana said that she has written a song for a new Alice's Adventurea In Wonderland movie but we haven't heard nothing about the movie or song ever since

Period. I think that winning an Oscar would be more important for her career than the Grammys. While Oscars have had very disappointing snubs and even with Lana (looking at you Young & Beautiful, Big Eyes), I feel like she has higher chance winning that than a Grammy (like in the major nominations, like AOTY, SOTY, ROTY, usually the soundtrack Oscar winners have won the soundtrack Grammy as well). Grammys are MTV-level TikTok commercial joke, I can't take the voters seriously at all. For movies, Golden Globes or Critics Choice Awards share maybe that commercial/media appeal what Grammys have and even in those awards Lana has lost...

 

 I wish I could like/heart the comments on this forum. For months now, whenever I'm on my laptop, I'm getting an error message. Anyone else have this issue? 

 

 

But fully agree with you, especially the MTV-level TikTok joke.

 

The only thing with Y&B is that she lost the nomination on a technicality. The song needs to be written specifically for the film, not previously produced and repurposed, which was the case with Y&B.

 

It was just a Lana song that Baz L. chose for the film, and they rejigged it.

[JDaniel 996]

 

Tough (Channel Tres Remix)” debuts with 286K streams in it’s first day on Spotify. — “Tough” also received 852K (+18.5%) streams.

promo is promo mr Quavo

[Embach 42,323]

23 minutes ago, barttttender said:

 

 I wish I could like/heart the comments on this forum. For months now, whenever I'm on my laptop, I'm getting an error message. Anyone else have this issue? 

 

 

But fully agree with you, especially the MTV-level TikTok joke.

 

The only thing with Y&B is that she lost the nomination on a technicality. The song needs to be written specifically for the film, not previously produced and repurposed, which was the case with Y&B.

 

It was just a Lana song that Baz L. chose for the film, and they rejigged it.

Maybe this tutorial can help you with the issue about liking posts!

 

But about Young & Beautiful, yeah that was the issue, sadly. The Frozen song won anyways that year, I don't think Y&B would've had a chance then because Let It Go was so hyped. 

[JDaniel 996]

4 hours ago, Embach said:

Maybe this tutorial can help you solve the problem of liking posts!

 

But for Young & Beautiful, yeah, that was the problem, unfortunately. The song Frozen won that year anyway, I don't think Y&B would have had a chance at that point because Let It Go was so hot. 

 

https://time.com/11728/lana-del-rey-young-and-beautiful-oscar-snub/

I think Harvey contributed to this because she wouldn't take him off cola.

How can we say that she wouldn't have won anyway, you underestimate the members of the academy like Eminem who simply didn't go, and yet...

[barttttender 4,951]

6 hours ago, JDaniel said:

 

https://time.com/11728/lana-del-rey-young-and-beautiful-oscar-snub/

I think Harvey contributed to this because she wouldn't take him off cola.

How can we say that she wouldn't have won anyway, you underestimate the members of the academy like Eminem who simply didn't go, and yet...

 

Please... Not that conspiracy theory. Harvey had nothing to do with it. They would have set a precedent for Lana especially. Why would they have?

 

Y&B didn't stand a chance. Just like the soundtrack for Black Swan didn't have a chance because it was mostly re-using and repurposing Tchaikovsky’s Swan Lake. It was disqualified because it wasn't deemed "original" music for the film. It's the Academy rules.

 

Also, it's the composer branche who decide on this yearly, not the producer branch (Weinstein). 

[barttttender 4,951]

11 hours ago, Embach said:

Maybe this tutorial can help you with the issue about liking posts!

 

But about Young & Beautiful, yeah that was the issue, sadly. The Frozen song won anyways that year, I don't think Y&B would've had a chance then because Let It Go was so hyped. 

 

Yeah, that's another thing. There's no way it would have won over Frozen... That song was probably the most successful one of the decade in cinema. 

 

Thanks for sharing the tutorial! Really appreciate it. I feel like I haven't been giving enough love to the posts on here.

[barttttender 4,951]

11 hours ago, Embach said:

Maybe this tutorial can help you with the issue about liking posts!

 

But about Young & Beautiful, yeah that was the issue, sadly. The Frozen song won anyways that year, I don't think Y&B would've had a chance then because Let It Go was so hyped. 

 

It worked! I can like comments again. 

[barttttender 4,951]

Tough drops considerably on Spotify re-streaming numbers with 600K per day.

 

It'll take it a while to crack LDR's top 50 (it's at 58 now). But then it's still doing 6 x better than A&W, which is only garnering 100K per day. It's only 3 songs behind it, which is crazy given that A&W has been out for a year and a half and Tough's only been out a few months. It'll crack top 50 in a few weeks, and probably hold up steady to end up in the top 40-30 by year end, which is very good for this song.
 

Summertime Sadness	1,609,249,331	1,273,697
* Stargirl Interlude	1,188,211,738	1,226,639
Young And Beautiful	1,399,667,331	1,107,626
Say Yes To Heaven	636,045,006	1,038,770
West Coast	822,080,707	804,028
Cinnamon Girl	608,171,653	745,184
Diet Mountain Dew	607,928,926	704,732
White Mustang	218,477,421	690,723
Video Games	1,005,612,841	663,463
Brooklyn Baby	738,838,093	648,466
* Tough	147,236,883	614,397

[bluechemtrails 26,724]

well, the "success" of tough is not surprising, if you consider that it was almost her only released song this year 

 

a&w didn't had a video and is much longer, so it's not optimized for streaming

 

compare it to margaret and let the light in, which were just album songs. tough will drop back into the daily streams in a few weeks.

[barttttender 4,951]

36 minutes ago, grandpas glass said:

well, the "success" of tough is not surprising, if you consider that it was almost her only released song this year 

 

a&w didn't had a video and is much longer, so it's not optimized for streaming

 

compare it to margaret and let the light in, which were just album songs. tough will drop back into the daily streams in a few weeks.

 

You're right on all fronts.

 

Although, I don't think the MV made much of a difference for Tough (it only has 16 M views). CN had an incredible MV and still flopped, if we look at pure numbers.

 

Margaret and LTLI are still doing surprisingly well indeed. Especially Margaret with its languid pace. Who knows, maybe Tough holds up against them? We'll know in a few months.

 

But overall, I'm quite happy with Tough's performance.

[ldrzodiac 1,281]

Tough - Gravagerz Remix

 

Midnight Local Time - 11/10

[motel six 3,357]

1 minute ago, ldrzodiac said:

Tough - Gravagerz Remix

 

Midnight Local Time - 11/10

another one?! is this the SECOND SINGLE

[ldrzodiac 1,281]

Just now, motel six said:

another one?! is this the SECOND SINGLE

💀💀💀 I mean Lana hasn’t acknowledged any of these remixes so I’m praying these aren’t the 2 singles she was talking bout 🤞🤞