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YES!  A bit of rap and a bit of electronica (like Cowboy Carter)  would be iconic.

this is such a great year for pop music, especially if youre a fag. Lana, beyonce, billie, taylor... everyone important is releasing a new album

YES! 
 
Doin' Time
National Anthem
Off to the Races
Florida Kilos
Summertime Sadness
Cola
Diet Mountain Dew
Hollywood
Radio
Burning Desire
You Can Be the Boss
High by the Beach
West Coast
Serial Killer
Don't Call Me Angel
Summer Bummer
Hundred Dollar Bill
Ridin' Feat. ASAP Rocky
This is What Makes Us Girls
 
The list is even longer.
 
I wish people on here wouldn't keep saying "Oh, you want Lana to be a different artist" when she has produced a large number of summer BOPS. Obviously, she can do that. Just not with Jack apparently (he hasn't produced any of the above)
 

YES! 
 
Doin' Time
National Anthem
Off to the Races
Florida Kilos
Summertime Sadness
Cola
Diet Mountain Dew
Hollywood
Radio
Burning Desire
You Can Be the Boss
High by the Beach
West Coast
Serial Killer
Don't Call Me Angel
Summer Bummer
Hundred Dollar Bill
Ridin' Feat. ASAP Rocky
This is What Makes Us Girls
 
The list is even longer.
 
I wish people on here wouldn't keep saying "Oh, you want Lana to be a different artist" when she has produced a large number of summer BOPS. Obviously, she can do that. Just not with Jack apparently (he hasn't produced any of the above)
 

To me, a « Lana bop » is a song that could get radio airplay, with some chill beats, or that could please her fans because it contains somewhat some of the « old Lana ». Agree with you that Peppers is a bop, TJF is kinda one (sure is underrated with the GP), but to me, the « bop » (very loosely here) on BB might be Dealer: not that it’s a light song, but the lyrics are very UV. 
Say Yes to Heaven is a nice pop song and bop-ish too. 
But my fave Lana bops are her summery tracks with a memorable melody and we need one of those 
 

If we look at definitions of the word "bop", it implies a rapid tempo. What song on Chemtrails has a rapid tempo, in your opinion? Or BB? Do you really think Tulsa, or BBS or Venice Bitch have a rapid tempo?

Or, at least, Ride. A big song with a great melody that could get radio play.
 
No more low-key ballads as singles with minimalist production, like Blue Banisters, Arcadia, Wildflower, White Dress, Candy Necklace, The Grants, etc. It's literally been 5 years of those. (Doin' Time came out in 2019!)
 
But knowing Lana, she'll drop Henry, Come on as the first single. 
 
 

She needs another Doin’ Time 

Gurrl, I'm totally with you. I know it won't happen. Lust for Life was her last commercial effort for sure.
 
But we JUST NEED ONE BOP. Just one. One upbeat single ala Summertime Sadness, Doin' Time or High By the Beach to hear on the radio or listen at the gym. Like, country with beats.
 
And no, this is not me mistaking Lana for another type of artist, like Sportscruiser keeps accusing me. I'm her biggest fan, and I don't expect her to change. But 3 albums in a row without a hit just isn't good for her career. Chemtrails, BB and OB haven't had a single entry on Billboard 100.
 
Meanwhile, 8+ tracks off of Cowboy Carter made it onto that list instantly, 6 of which weren't even singles (Buckin, Bodyguard, Protector, Blackbird, American Requiem, Hands II Heaven). All 3 of Dua Lipa's new singles made it onto the list at numbers 11, 20 and whatever.
 
And, yes, I know Lana doesn't need Billboard, and she's in her own lane, and her true fans don't care. But she's had 15 songs on that list, and each album up until Chemtrails had a bop or a big ballad. So, she CAN do it, and she should. If for no other reason, then to continue to be part of pop culture, get more Grammy attention, etc. It's just good for her.
 
Also, after 5 years, it's time for Jack to produce her first solo hit for her. He's done it for Taylor repeatedly, so I don't get why he can't cook up something more commercially minded for Lana.

I totally agree with this… I hope she possibly interprets 1 or 2 into the album but I’d much prefer an ‘Unreleased Collection’ rather than this album be filled with a bunch of her unreleased, plus I love new Lana stuff 

I hope Lasso blends a bunch of genres 

Why is everyone acting like this is a jack only record? YES he’s involved, but the first song we’ve been teased with isn’t a Jack song. 
 
personally I think it’s a bit silly to hope for a super boppy album when her last ‘bop’ album was LFL which came out almost 7 years ago. I want a bop album as much as the next person but it just doesn’t seem realistic

My dream tracklist:
 
1. Lasso - as an upbeat lush country opener ala Ride that's single worthy and her finest fucking album opener since, well, Ride 
2. Country/hip hop BOP featuring the Weekend that's single worthy
3. Country/pop BOP featuring Taylor Swift that's single worthy
4. Country ballad ala Video Games that's single worthy
5. Mid-tempo country duet feat. Father John Misty
6. Sad country ballad featuring Dolly Parton
7.Experimental country/electronica BOP featuring Billie Eilish
8. Experimental country/electronica trip-hop ballad ala Tulsa Jesus freak only better, with a Jimmy Jimmy style outro
9.  Experimental country/electronica rap featuring Quavo or ASAP Rocky
9. Mid-tempo country duet with synth elements feat. Orville Peck
10. Country ballad ala Wild at Heart
11. Prettiest Girl in Country Music feat. NIcky Lane
12. Henry, Come on
 
Bonus tracks
 
13. Hey Blue Baby
14. I must be stupid for being so happy
15. Stand by Your Man
16. A big country hit cover but GOOD.
 
 

My dream tracklist:
 
1. Lasso - as an upbeat lush country opener ala Ride that's single worthy and her finest fucking album opener since, well, Ride 
2. Country/hip hop BOP featuring the Weekend that's single worthy
3. Country/pop BOP featuring Taylor Swift that's single worthy
4. Country ballad ala Video Games that's single worthy
5. Mid-tempo country duet feat. Father John Misty
6. Sad country ballad featuring Dolly Parton
7.Experimental country/electronica BOP featuring Billie Eilish
8. Experimental country/electronica trip-hop ballad ala Tulsa Jesus freak only better, with a Jimmy Jimmy style outro
9.  Experimental country/electronica rap featuring Quavo or ASAP Rocky
9. Mid-tempo country duet with synth elements feat. Orville Peck
10. Country ballad ala Wild at Heart
11. Prettiest Girl in Country Music feat. NIcky Lane
12. Henry, Come on
 
Bonus tracks
 
13. Hey Blue Baby
14. I must be stupid for being so happy
15. Stand by Your Man
16. A big country hit cover but GOOD.
 
 

taylor makes such commercial music, even with jack, all the lana inspo, and titles like "the tortured poets dept." Fortnight and a few other tracks aren't bad, but all her songs are starting to sound the same or, at least, have the same predicable melody. 
 
heard a lyric on her record that goes "you fell asleep like a tattooed golden retriever." That doesn't even make sense. She wishes she could write like lana. That said, she works hard and she's a smart business woman, so i don't mind her. And i love that she's got lana's back. It's super cool that lana is so close with the most successful female singer on the planet.
 

And Venice Bitch,
And Mariner's 
And Norman
And Ocean Boulevard
And Wild at Heart
And White Dress.
The list goes on and on. 
 
That being said, I do think she should mix it up with another producer, and I hope Luke L. will bring that breath of fresh air.
 
Not a fan of Gabe Simon, Zach Davies, Drew Erickson and others from her Blue Banisters area. They've produced some of the weakest tracks in her career (Summertime Gershwin, Country Roads, etc.).

And Venice Bitch,
And Mariner's 
And Norman
And Ocean Boulevard
And Wild at Heart
And White Dress.
The list goes on and on. 
 
That being said, I do think she should mix it up with another producer, and I hope Luke L. will bring that breath of fresh air.
 
Not a fan of Gabe Simon, Zach Davies, Drew Erickson and others from her Blue Banisters area. They've produced some of the weakest tracks in her career (Summertime Gershwin, Country Roads, etc.).

Yeah, it can’t be a Jack-only album: Taylor got him working 24-7 on all of her albums til his last fucking breath, no matter how uninspiring the songs may sound like 

And Venice Bitch,
And Mariner's 
And Norman
And Ocean Boulevard
And Wild at Heart
And White Dress.
The list goes on and on. 
 
That being said, I do think she should mix it up with another producer, and I hope Luke L. will bring that breath of fresh air.
 
Not a fan of Gabe Simon, Zach Davies, Drew Erickson and others from her Blue Banisters area. They've produced some of the weakest tracks in her career (Summertime Gershwin, Country Roads, etc.).

My dream tracklist:
 
1. Lasso - as an upbeat lush country opener ala Ride that's single worthy and her finest fucking album opener since, well, Ride 
2. Country/hip hop BOP featuring the Weekend that's single worthy
3. Country/pop BOP featuring Taylor Swift that's single worthy
4. Country ballad ala Video Games that's single worthy
5. Mid-tempo country duet feat. Father John Misty
6. Sad country ballad featuring Dolly Parton
7.Experimental country/electronica BOP featuring Billie Eilish
8. Experimental country/electronica trip-hop ballad ala Tulsa Jesus freak only better, with a Jimmy Jimmy style outro
9.  Experimental country/electronica rap featuring Quavo or ASAP Rocky
9. Mid-tempo country duet with synth elements feat. Orville Peck
10. Country ballad ala Wild at Heart
11. Prettiest Girl in Country Music feat. NIcky Lane
12. Henry, Come on
 
Bonus tracks
 
13. Hey Blue Baby
14. I must be stupid for being so happy
15. Stand by Your Man
16. A big country hit cover but GOOD.
 
 

The album climbed back to #4 on the US charts with over 10,000 copies sold past week.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2024/04/24/lana-del-reys-latest-album-is-up-nearly-800-in-sales/
 

we know she has also worked with Luke Laird and he's probably the main producer because she spent a lot of time in Nashville
I expect some kind of Kacey Musgraves country, which is not that bad

I just hope it's not boring country. What Beyonce did with CC was reinvigorate the genre, mix it up, and successfully create both bangers and ballads that resonate and deserve radio play.
 
If we get another Chemtrails - a slow, straight-up genre record with no hits and nothing new brought to the genre, then I would think of it as a disappointment. 

I'd love it if there a few collabs (aside from the guaranteed one(s) with Nicky).
 
Taylor, Orville Peck, Miley Father John Misty (again), and maybe even some rappers/RBN artists to spice it up (Quavo, ASAP Rocky, The Weeknd).
 
I wouldn't mind an all-Lana record. I'm just worried we'll end up with Chemtrails 2 if it all ends up being slow country with no bops, collabs or big songs.

I'd love it if there a few collabs (aside from the guaranteed one(s) with Nicky).
 
Taylor, Orville Peck, Miley Father John Misty (again), and maybe even some rappers/RBN artists to spice it up (Quavo, ASAP Rocky, The Weeknd).
 
I wouldn't mind an all-Lana record. I'm just worried we'll end up with Chemtrails 2 if it all ends up being slow country with no bops, collabs or big songs.