Constantine 4,074 Posted October 12, 2014 Flipside is probably her best song ever 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leaked_version 10,499 Posted October 12, 2014 I wish her next record would be full of songs like Kinda Outta Luck and You Can Be The Boss. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jazzmin 302 Posted October 12, 2014 Seeing all those posts about Lana not being "lyrically wise" (I mean not only the last few in this thread but also the criticism toward Y&B and lots of posts in other threads) I cannot tell whether it's actually an "unpopular Lana opinion" . Not like I don't entitle you to your own opinion cuz I entirely do (especially if I sometimes agree at least to a limited extend) but just wondering if it doesn't turn out that in fact there are more people disliking Lana lyrics (as textual works, not regarded in their context) than those really cherishing them. So if loving Lana as a songwriter is an unpopular one, here is mine: There countless Lana songs that I find lyrically exquisite. To list but very few examples: She's Not Me: "I'm the ghost in your mashine" - besides referring to philosophy (what itself makes the song more profound) Lana totally alters the whole concept. While orginally the term describes dualism in one person, Lana's use encompasses two of them. Translating this metaphore, it appears as "I'm [as a "ghost"] lingering inside your body ["mashine"] and no, I am not leaving". What it exactly means, we can surely argue but for sure she uses the philosophical concept to wrap with it the fact that her (ex-)boyfriend and she are binded. And this intended change of an already existing term smells kinda Gainsbourg-like to me... but I guess that's too far-fetched? I also love how she uses lots of slang expressions and idioms that literally are about death: "a ride or die bitch", the already mentioned "ghost", "dead and gone", "suicide blonde"... Crammed together, they add some thrill to those lyrics! Like there's something supernatural about it... I'm probably the only one to have such a weird association but the song matches some scenes of "Over Her Dead Body" where Kate, having died as Henry's fiancée, becomes a ghost and tries to hold back his new romance. The characters' aims are quite different in the romantic comedy film and in the song but I just want to point out that the concept of the ghost stalking her (ex?) partner fits quite well into the lyrics. Hopefully the movie helped me to illustrate it... I know it's ridiculous to interpet it literally but it's beyond me, I feel haunted by my stupid ideas. Off To the Races: The "Lolita" quote - "Light of my life, fire in my loins" is one of my favorite phrases ever, a pensive and good-sounding cluster of words (both because of the alliteration and its meaning). OTTR is full of other colorful epithets such as: "my red nail polish", "his cocaine heart", "your black Cristal", "your little scarlet starlet", "a soul as sweet as blood red jam", "my tar black soul"... All those color words colorize the song Actually, I perceive OTTR rather as an image than words. Some will say that's kitch-like but to me it is not - it would be if she constantly described characters in the story only by hair color (like in poorly-written fanfiction like "the tar-haired girl said this, the tar-haired girl said that") but referring colors to intangible notions sounds at least a bit fresher to be and doesn't make me cringe. And "scarlet, starlet" is alliteration again, if I'm not wrong? Another reason to love those lyrics! Talking of colors, may I just mention one lyrics from Hundred Dollar Bill? I agree that "I'm in my party dress, he says you're such a mess" isn't the cleverest lyrics under the sun but "you turn my mood from black to blue" is a really well-thought phrase. It uses two adjectives which literally both mean colors but also mean certain moods... Reminds me Emilie Autumn's "my ocean is bluer than the heart you had to break". I also think Lana can catch a lot of meaning in her similes: "life sweet like cinnamon, like a fucking dream I'm living in", "spinnin like a ballerina" (followed by "feelin gangsta" and that's why it's aww-some"), "like Jim Morisson", "when you talk, it's like a movie"... they tell more than non-poetic prose ever could tell! Or simple repeted sentences from some AKA songs "I'm in love with a dying man / I have done everything I can" is enough to describe her whole mischief/distress connected with the situation. Such songs really call for your imagination, telling you very little but at the same time kindling your curiosity. I know I'm an infinite bore to have posted my dull elaboration - but I just wanted to point out what indeed I see in Lana lyrics... Sorry if I'm too stupid to word my feelings... I am stupid :< . And that I worship so many Lana lyrics doesn't necessarily mean I'm a fan of "You're disgusting, I'm delicious" . 13 Quote And the wind I know it’s cold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovetati 15,299 Posted October 12, 2014 I love her lyrics, but I wish she would return to the subtle beauty that was present in the Sirens lyrics. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodBlessMe 2,141 Posted October 12, 2014 Delicious isn't Lana's worst song... I actually find it very catchy and fun 7 Quote I AM MY ONLY GOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hundred Dollar Bill 21,805 Posted October 12, 2014 Delicious isn't Lana's worst song... I actually find it very catchy and fun Delicious is one of those songs that's so bad it's good. Scarface, on the other hand... 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limelight 4,708 Posted October 12, 2014 I love her lyrics, but I wish she would return to the subtle beauty that was present in the Sirens lyrics. I would love if Lana made an acoustic album May Jailer style. I've been actually listening to the May Jailer more than anything else lately tbh 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovetati 15,299 Posted October 12, 2014 I would love if Lana made an acoustic album May Jailer style. I've been actually listening to the May Jailer more than anything else lately tbh I want her to continue making dream pop/indie rock music, but with more simplified lyrics to match the tone of the music. UV's lyrics were beautiful, but I want her to explore new themes on her next album. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leaked_version 10,499 Posted October 12, 2014 If she ever makes an accoustic album full with slow songs, christ I will hunt dat bitch down high-speed to give her the right pace for the next album 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodBlessMe 2,141 Posted October 12, 2014 Delicious is one of those songs that's so bad it's good. Scarface, on the other hand... I actually love Scarface and "scarface, sacrifice, sold my soul to make it nice..." Is an awesome line! 2 Quote I AM MY ONLY GOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder Revenant 20,961 Posted October 12, 2014 I actually love Scarface and "scarface, sacrifice, sold my soul to make it nice..." Is an awesome line! The song sounds like sh*t tho ... I mean like, the beginning is already enough ... Sounds like a bad porn-voiceacting. 2 Quote Just do it. Just do it - don't wait! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilde_child 490 Posted October 12, 2014 I love your thoughts and quite agree. Regarding the comparison with Cat Power by some of you here: Oh dear, I could write an essay discussing Lana's true poetic talent (failed English major here) and why she is a brilliant songwriter but I am too tired now. Lana is as good as Chan, as a matter of fact, her vision is much bolder. I have been a CP fan since the nineties, way before Cat Power went worldwide famous and still was an indie act singing deep sad songs. Watched her live twice. Not following her as I did then anymore... Lana is not inferior to any songwriter out there, she can write beautiful poetry in music form, her aesthetics also are part of the whole vision. Plus, the recurring themes are genius! Give our girl a couple of decades and she will go down in Music History as one of the greats, one of the best American songwriters. Yeah, I am such a fangirl and not ashamed. I worship Lana Del Rey! Seeing all those posts about Lana not being "lyrically wise" (I mean not only the last few in this thread but also the criticism toward Y&B and lots of posts in other threads) I cannot tell whether it's actually an "unpopular Lana opinion" . Not like I don't entitle you to your own opinion cuz I entirely do (especially if I sometimes agree at least to a limited extend) but just wondering if it doesn't turn out that in fact there are more people disliking Lana lyrics (as textual works, not regarded in their context) than those really cherishing them. So if loving Lana as a songwriter is an unpopular one, here is mine: There countless Lana songs that I find lyrically exquisite. To list but very few examples: She's Not Me: "I'm the ghost in your mashine" - besides referring to philosophy (what itself makes the song more profound) Lana totally alters the whole concept. While orginally the term describes dualism in one person, Lana's use encompasses two of them. Translating this metaphore, it appears as "I'm [as a "ghost"] lingering inside your body ["mashine"] and no, I am not leaving". What it exactly means, we can surely argue but for sure she uses the philosophical concept to wrap with it the fact that her (ex-)boyfriend and she are binded. And this intended change of an already existing term smells kinda Gainsbourg-like to me... but I guess that's too far-fetched? I also love how she uses lots of slang expressions and idioms that literally are about death: "a ride or die bitch", the already mentioned "ghost", "dead and gone", "suicide blonde"... Crammed together, they add some thrill to those lyrics! Like there's something supernatural about it... I'm probably the only one to have such a weird association but the song matches some scenes of "Over Her Dead Body" where Kate, having died as Henry's fiancée, becomes a ghost and tries to hold back his new romance. The characters' aims are quite different in the romantic comedy film and in the song but I just want to point out that the concept of the ghost stalking her (ex?) partner fits quite well into the lyrics. Hopefully the movie helped me to illustrate it... I know it's ridiculous to interpet it literally but it's beyond me, I feel haunted by my stupid ideas. Off To the Races: The "Lolita" quote - "Light of my life, fire in my loins" is one of my favorite phrases ever, a pensive and good-sounding cluster of words (both because of the alliteration and its meaning). OTTR is full of other colorful epithets such as: "my red nail polish", "his cocaine heart", "your black Cristal", "your little scarlet starlet", "a soul as sweet as blood red jam", "my tar black soul"... All those color words colorize the song Actually, I perceive OTTR rather as an image than words. Some will say that's kitch-like but to me it is not - it would be if she constantly described characters in the story only by hair color (like in poorly-written fanfiction like "the tar-haired girl said this, the tar-haired girl said that") but referring colors to intangible notions sounds at least a bit fresher to be and doesn't make me cringe. And "scarlet, starlet" is alliteration again, if I'm not wrong? Another reason to love those lyrics! Talking of colors, may I just mention one lyrics from Hundred Dollar Bill? I agree that "I'm in my party dress, he says you're such a mess" isn't the cleverest lyrics under the sun but "you turn my mood from black to blue" is a really well-thought phrase. It uses two adjectives which literally both mean colors but also mean certain moods... Reminds me Emilie Autumn's "my ocean is bluer than the heart you had to break". I also think Lana can catch a lot of meaning in her similes: "life sweet like cinnamon, like a fucking dream I'm living in", "spinnin like a ballerina" (followed by "feelin gangsta" and that's why it's aww-some"), "like Jim Morisson", "when you talk, it's like a movie"... they tell more than non-poetic prose ever could tell! Or simple repeted sentences from some AKA songs "I'm in love with a dying man / I have done everything I can" is enough to describe her whole mischief/distress connected with the situation. Such songs really call for your imagination, telling you very little but at the same time kindling your curiosity. I know I'm an infinite bore to have posted my dull elaboration - but I just wanted to point out what indeed I see in Lana lyrics... Sorry if I'm too stupid to word my feelings... I am stupid :< . And that I worship so many Lana lyrics doesn't necessarily mean I'm a fan of "You're disgusting, I'm delicious" . 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HEARTCORE 18,971 Posted October 12, 2014 I actually love Scarface and "scarface, sacrifice, sold my soul to make it nice..." Is an awesome line! Scarface is so underappreciated by the fans! The song is so sexy and the heavy breathing at the end is just 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadAgainst 1,515 Posted October 13, 2014 "I'm the ghost in your mashine" - besides referring to philosophy (what itself makes the song more profound) Lana totally alters the whole concept. While orginally the term describes dualism in one person, Lana's use encompasses two of them. Translating this metaphore, it appears as "I'm [as a "ghost"] lingering inside your body ["mashine"] and no, I am not leaving". Her usage can still be read as referring to dualism in one person. And that is why her lyrics often have a touch of genius. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intriguing Penguin 867 Posted October 14, 2014 Does anyone else wonder if Lana's meth references and meth mystery are just her being generally obsessed with the drug? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder Revenant 20,961 Posted October 14, 2014 Does anyone else wonder if Lana's meth references and meth mystery are just her being generally obsessed with the drug? well, if she would have really been addictet to it, chances would be high that she'd either be dead or that you would at least see it in some physical way. 0 Quote Just do it. Just do it - don't wait! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HEARTCORE 18,971 Posted October 14, 2014 Don't know how unpopular this is, but I wish she did more monologues for her videos. They're so interesting to listen to and I especially love it when she recites poetry in then (eg I Sing The Body Electric in Tropico). Her voice is really suited to it and I just enjoy the way she speaks in the Tropico & National Anthem monologues SO much. I'd also love another film for Ultraviolence a la Tropico, but that's another matter. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultraviolenced 64 Posted October 16, 2014 Flipside always makes me think of those Flipside crackers. 1 Quote YOU CALL ME LAVENDER, YOU CALL ME SUNSHINE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longtimeman 8,998 Posted October 17, 2014 I don't care who K is, or even if he ever existed, or is a composite, or was actually a high school friend who got busted cheating on tests and had to leave school. It won't change what I feel about any of the songs that we consider about him. With ONE exception. If it turns out he's a real person, I want to see a photo of him, so I can mentally replace BS with him in my mind when thinking about Blue Jeans and BTD. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leaked_version 10,499 Posted October 18, 2014 I have also never cared for K or Lana's lovers. If the song works, it works. Couldn't care less about who she is singing about. I have managed to listen to Sirens once and fell to sleep. I have not listened to Ride in maybe a year and the video is just painfully long and the monologe is a joke. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites