Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread

[Coney Island King 25,991]

why can't any fucking mods ban people for gods sake this thread is a disaster

 

(probably some of the worst lack of moderation i've ever seen)

 

they run the forum like lanas team runs her career

[111 36,612]

Oh, yes. Just what I wanted to wake up and see. More fake lyrics and shemale porn.
Honeymoon is alive and breathing - in coma.
 

[WaitForLife 5,231]

It disapeard

[JizzyLizzy 437]

Whoever did the exorcism and purified this thread, thank you xx

[letsescapelizzy 672]

whos posting porn again?,, i missed all that crap..lol..what happened?

 

and please everyone try to get this thread better again. we can have

good discussions some of the time, and make things better for all posters

ffs there are less than 2 weeks to a Lana Del Rey album release, get it together..

[JudgingYou 196]

LIBLEAK

[MonsterGod 93]

whos posting porn again?,, i missed all that crap..lol..what happened?

It was crap literally. Scat porn.

[American Bottom 16,228]

GKIT is actually muddy trap energy

 

Let's cruising down the coast going bout 99

In our Chevy Chevron drive

My baby with his red lips and my pink dress

Red lip balm, chapstick bitch

Give me your attention baby, give it to me now

Or Il'l thinkyou're like a no good fake diamond guy

 

I'm hot like the sun sun sun

Give me money and power

I want to sing it but without you

I don't love you no more baby

 

 

God knows I tried

God knows I tried

In this world full of noir

He knows that I'm a bad girl

But he treats me like the Queen of Coney Island

So take my heart downtown with my love

In the streets of Santa Monica, LA

God knows I tried

 

Remember babe, with my red lipstick

Stains on the mirror in your bathroom

Take me to Anaheim to LA that I sense

He hit me and it felt like a moon

This is honeymoon and all I wanna do

Is leave forever and never look back

 

God knows I tried

God knows I tried

In this world full of noir

He knows that I'm a bad girl

But he treats me like the Queen of Coney Island

So take my heart downtown with my love

In the streets of Santa Monica, LA

God knows I tried

 

Give me your true heart, just a bit

Mr. King of Chevron from the Hamptons boy

Got my plump red lips and cherry balm

Take my body downtown

in this slow gin fizz

I'm your fake diamond

And your my fine china

 

God knows I tried

God knows I tried

In this world full of noir

He knows that I'm a bad girl

But he treats me like the Queen of Coney Island

So take my heart downtown with my love

In the streets of Santa Monica, LA

God knows I tried

 

And by the way, those Salvatore lyrics are real. It remind me a bit of daddy issues and baby blue love (:

He Hit Me and It felt like a moon

The creativity is (not) amazing

[WaitForLife 5,231]

I see fake GKIT lyrics

[Limelight 4,707]

[Jean 4,117]

Sick

[graham4anything 2,859]

re:the methodology of the way they are counting for charts (streaming, downloads, physical purchases, etc.)

 

I think one can't compare last year, prior years and this year.

Think it is broken and it goes to all artists.

Think billboard is skewering toward a specific service and not counting anymore some older ones

(let alone the I heart network literally doing legal payola

 

Is one of the newer methods paying for their method counting and paying to insure others not counting?

 

I am not sure the numbers can be relied on to be accurate for any artist.

Billboard magazine is now giving the artists who appeared at their festival more publicity and seemingly higher chart numbers

So billboard magazine themselves is not just the reporter, but they are creating the news, skewering the news and it reeks of payola

Those that played their fest get high numbers.

 

Something really sucks in this and it almost reminds me of how the country music industry was able to wipe out in 1989 any and all older artists

and completely change just by only charting certain radio stations (120 out of thousands) who played just what 2 or 3 people wanted to have played).

 

One would think if this is what is happening, it affects all artists and they should be concerned.

 

of course, the negative meme some above start being taken as the truth is also wrong, but if its continually repeated it, more and more posters

start with the false meme and then repeat it, so there may actually be no problem at all.

 

the problem may be in thinking that in BTD Lana's single numbers were more than they were in the USA-

Born to die itself did not chart on the top 100 singles

Video Games was #91.

So for all the talk on fifty or so pages in this thread, we are talking about one #91 single from BTD (prior to the remix unexpected SS #6).

 

Comparing BTD album (#2 on the charts debut, still on the charts) with sales frm UV (#1 debut) is impossible. People are not buying in numbers

from a few years ago (and BTD had two separate releases and the deluxe w/Paradise release added sales to the total.)

[InTheSummer 777]

STOP HOLY SHIT GRAHAM IS WORSE THAN THE SPAMMERS POSTING GIFS OF PEOPLE SHITTING

[JudgingYou 196]

re:the methodology of the way they are counting for charts (streaming, downloads, physical purchases, etc.)

 

I think one can't compare last year, prior years and this year.

Think it is broken and it goes to all artists.

Think billboard is skewering toward a specific service and not counting anymore some older ones

(let alone the I heart network literally doing legal payola

 

Is one of the newer methods paying for their method counting and paying to insure others not counting?

 

I am not sure the numbers can be relied on to be accurate for any artist.

Billboard magazine is now giving the artists who appeared at their festival more publicity and seemingly higher chart numbers

So billboard magazine themselves is not just the reporter, but they are creating the news, skewering the news and it reeks of payola

Those that played their fest get high numbers.

 

Something really sucks in this and it almost reminds me of how the country music industry was able to wipe out in 1989 any and all older artists

and completely change just by only charting certain radio stations (120 out of thousands) who played just what 2 or 3 people wanted to have played).

 

One would think if this is what is happening, it affects all artists and they should be concerned.

 

of course, the negative meme some above start being taken as the truth is also wrong, but if its continually repeated it, more and more posters

start with the false meme and then repeat it, so there may actually be no problem at all.

 

the problem may be in thinking that in BTD Lana's single numbers were more than they were in the USA-

Born to die itself did not chart on the top 100 singles

Video Games was #91.

So for all the talk on fifty or so pages in this thread, we are talking about one #91 single from BTD (prior to the remix unexpected SS #6).

 

Comparing BTD album (#2 on the charts debut, still on the charts) with sales frm UV (#1 debut) is impossible. People are not buying in numbers

from a few years ago (and BTD had two separate releases and the deluxe w/Paradise release added sales to the total.)

Aint nobody got time for that

[Subversive 2,214]

STOP HOLY SHIT GRAHAM IS WORSE THAN THE SPAMMERS POSTING GIFS OF PEOPLE SHITTING

 

At least he's staying on topic and he doesn't need to set fire to his vagina.

[a11111 528]

There is nothing really to talk about. The HM release is symbolized by that lonely board over the Mel's Drive-In, which makes everything related to the album seem like a dream, an afterthought. The songs released so far are pretty but without the electrifying sensation that I felt listening to BTD or UV. HM so far sounds like someone is saying goodbye and being deprived by the energy to go forward. I found the V magazine shooting somewhat fitting with this picture and I’m looking forward to see the HQ pictures and I’m curious about the Franco interview too.

 

But I can’t get out of my head what Dan Auerbach said about Lana in the Rolling Stone interview. It was for me like a confirmation of something bad about you knew but that you never fully accepted until then. The way the interviewer, a veteran music journalist, put rhetorically the question “Do you think she gets the respect she deserves as an artist?” and the way Dan answer it, without hesitation, “No, I don't think she does. But you know that. I don't need to tell you that”, it sounds like its common knowledge between the insiders that Lana is not a respected artist. Like many of you, I read a lot about her and I got the feeling that she’s disrespected as an artist, especially in the US, but somehow I hoped that this is just the opinion of some music journalists.

 

I cannot imagine how difficult was/is for her to be creative while being disrespected by your peers and music journalists and to be attacked relentlessly with misogynistic and ideological rants. The puzzle pieces are starting to fall in their places: that she didn’t find a community in the music business, that she likes to work with certain people with which she feels safe, that she’s afraid to go before the general public with her music, that she don’t want certain people (critics) to hear her music, that she feels fucked up talking with the press, that she doesn’t want to promote anymore and excluded the press from her tour, that BTD and UV didn’t get any Grammy nominations or recognition in the US, that she often looks depressed.

 

I feel silly now that I expected bells and whistles from this era when things were/are possibly that bleak in her life. She’s not there emotionally and this is coming through her music lately. I have the feeling that she somewhat lost the joy of creating for others and she didn’t put her heart and soul in her songs lately. There is just a detached (but genuine) sadness and disappointment feeling without really wanting something.

 

Now, what is the point to remain a recording artist when you are not respected, your career is making you depressed, you’re afraid to perform your music and possibly you lost your joy of creating for others? On the other hand, it’s hard to let go a career that others (good musicians) are unable to achieve in a lifetime and not to use your only real talent. She needs to sort out these things because she cannot go forward for long like this.

[FutureRetro 295]

re:the methodology of the way they are counting for charts (streaming, downloads, physical purchases, etc.)

 

I think one can't compare last year, prior years and this year.

Think it is broken and it goes to all artists.

Think billboard is skewering toward a specific service and not counting anymore some older ones

(let alone the I heart network literally doing legal payola

 

Is one of the newer methods paying for their method counting and paying to insure others not counting?

 

I am not sure the numbers can be relied on to be accurate for any artist.

 

Billboard magazine is now giving the artists who appeared at their festival more publicity and seemingly higher chart numbers

So billboard magazine themselves is not just the reporter, but they are creating the news, skewering the news and it reeks of payola

Those that played their fest get high numbers.

 

Something really sucks in this and it almost reminds me of how the country music industry was able to wipe out in 1989 any and all older artists

and completely change just by only charting certain radio stations (120 out of thousands) who played just what 2 or 3 people wanted to have played).

 

One would think if this is what is happening, it affects all artists and they should be concerned.

 

of course, the negative meme some above start being taken as the truth is also wrong, but if its continually repeated it, more and more posters

start with the false meme and then repeat it, so there may actually be no problem at all.

 

the problem may be in thinking that in BTD Lana's single numbers were more than they were in the USA-

Born to die itself did not chart on the top 100 singles

Video Games was #91.

So for all the talk on fifty or so pages in this thread, we are talking about one #91 single from BTD (prior to the remix unexpected SS #6).

 

Comparing BTD album (#2 on the charts debut, still on the charts) with sales frm UV (#1 debut) is impossible. People are not buying in numbers

from a few years ago (and BTD had two separate releases and the deluxe w/Paradise release added sales to the total.)

Graham, we weren't talking about how Billboard is "skewing" their methodology or whatever.

It's just that Lana was a big streaming artist back in 2011 but the charts were only Sales + AirPlay. It's sad because now her streaming DECLINE and now the charts count streaming. Although things are looking better this era - streaming wise.

[Noam 316]

Lana isn't fat wtf

[FutureRetro 295]

There is nothing really to talk about. The HM release is symbolized by that lonely board over the Mel's Drive-In, which makes everything related to the album seem like a dream, an afterthought. The songs released so far are pretty but without the electrifying sensation that I felt listening to BTD or UV. HM so far sounds like someone is saying goodbye and being deprived by the energy to go forward. I found the V magazine shooting somewhat fitting with this picture and I’m looking forward to see the HQ pictures and I’m curious about the Franco interview too.

 

But I can’t get out of my head what Dan Auerbach said about Lana in the Rolling Stone interview. It was for me like a confirmation of something bad about you knew but that you never fully accepted until then. The way the interviewer, a veteran music journalist, put rhetorically the question “Do you think she gets the respect she deserves as an artist?” and the way Dan answer it, without hesitation, “No, I don't think she does. But you know that. I don't need to tell you that”, it sounds like its common knowledge between the insiders that Lana is not a respected artist. Like many of you, I read a lot about her and I got the feeling that she’s disrespected as an artist, especially in the US, but somehow I hoped that this is just the opinion of some music journalists.

 

I cannot imagine how difficult was/is for her to be creative while being disrespected by your peers and music journalists and to be attacked relentlessly with misogynistic and ideological rants. The puzzle pieces are starting to fall in their places: that she didn’t find a community in the music business, that she likes to work with certain people with which she feels safe, that she’s afraid to go before the general public with her music, that she don’t want certain people (critics) to hear her music, that she feels fucked up talking with the press, that she doesn’t want to promote anymore and excluded the press from her tour, that BTD and UV didn’t get any Grammy nominations or recognition in the US, that she often looks depressed.

 

I feel silly now that I expected bells and whistles from this era when things were/are possibly that bleak in her life. She’s not there emotionally and this is coming through her music lately. I have the feeling that she somewhat lost the joy of creating for others and she didn’t put her heart and soul in her songs lately. There is just a detached (but genuine) sadness and disappointment feeling without really wanting something.

 

Now, what is the point to remain a recording artist when you are not respected, your career is making you depressed, you’re afraid to perform your music and possibly you lost your joy of creating for others? On the other hand, it’s hard to let go a career that others (good musicians) are unable to achieve in a lifetime and not to use your only real talent. She needs to sort out these things because she cannot go forward for long like this.

I agree with some points. And disagree with others, personally for me the songs we got so far are amazing. I don't think she lost the "joy" of creating music. Lol in fact, she's more driven than last era at least.

 

And besides we are still very early in the era, we don't know what's coming. Although I do wish she makes more "public" appearances before the album release. She seems to be always hiding away. She has not promote High By The Beach at all. Not a single live performance yet. I hope things change in the coming weeks.

[Jean 4,117]

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When somebody said "Wait for 500 pages of mess", they weren't serious.. So, please, stop it