analwinterofmylife 2,644 Posted December 5, 2016 Bernie became Ralph Nader, and Nader is a disgusting human being who ruined his 60s legacy and was quite happy that bush won both times, because it enabled Ralph to keep whining. Much easier would have been to become a cabinet member of Al Gore's admin because, yeah, Bush did a lot for the environment two peas in a pod. And yes, 43 white male Presidents, yes it is time.Hillary was the single most qualified candidate ever (as I notated on post 798). and it is surprising on Lana's board, someone who was bullied because she was a female doing what only males had done prior in the music industry to defend the bullying against Hillary. Who won the second largest total vote of any candidate in history, only President Obama in 2008 got more votes, and of course, President Obama is one of the greatest Presidents of all time (it goes without saying). and if she ran in a rematch in 2020, I would support Hillary again. (as she would have run for reelection, she could easily do such if she chose to). and DWS did what her job is- she was the head of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, not the independent, not the socialist, not the democrat-socialist party. I would call for a person having to be a named Democratic party person for 5 years before allowing them to run in the Democratic party. And I would have all primaries closed to only party members. (Like the Republicans will do in 2020). There was so much mischief done (Rush Limbaugh called it Operation-Kaos, Rush the Vote in 2008, and again this year, along with Karl Rove's group and others, all being told to vote for Bernie to bring Hillary down. sorry but comparing bernie to nader is honestly nonsense ..if you really think the situation is that fucking similar then you dont really understand what happened lmfao they arent the same thing.. on a very very basic level u could consider the situations similar but in a matter of statistics, numbers, polls, and REALITY its comparing apples to oranges lmfao while hillary was qualified there were many reasons to dislike her.. factual reasons as ive already mentioned.. plus her being a flip flop PLUS the fact that the right wing basically demonized her as a war hawk criminal mastermind which i think is outrageous.. imo shes basically the same as obama and he is decent.. still a corporate sellout for the most part but i mean it is america lmfao anyways if debbie truly wanted the democrats to do better she would've done her best to make sure both democratic nominees looked as good as possible.. instead she favored one which only furthered the corruption rumors and dont forget hillary was already stained as a flip flop candidate long before. and i will just add.. after seeing all the shady shit that the democratic party did i refuse to join or fully support the party since i really dont feel fuckin welcome xD after the way ive seen bernie democrats get treated i really dont like it. In my opinion the DNC made its position and stance pretty fucking clear. and i dont like that stance, true its more favorable than republican stances but still. 0 Quote Instagram: pxpi_gringo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graham4anything 2,859 Posted December 5, 2016 the real shame of things are- Bernie's cult of personality supporters and fan club are thrilled, thrilled thrilled that Hillary didn't become President, that was the #1 goal and it was achieved because of the 1000s of code words and secret conspiracy theories that just gosh darn it have to all be true because well, Hillary is the elite, is corrupt is the worst thing in the history of the world, even far worse than the most horrible of horrible because gosh the alt-media and fake news said it was so, so it was so. (true arsonists, the joy is burning it down, not actually spending one minute to think of what would be there the next day). Hillary supporters and the Democartic party supporters are grieving for what was the three greatest American Presidents in modern times complete works being decimated (LBJ's great society, President Obama and FDR's new deal, every single great gain made is now under threat of being taken away. (those that don't mind that of course, are on the side of tea party and Ayn Rand loons like Paul Ryan But the single greatest thing Bernie, the God Czar of the absolutists and gosh darn, the single greatest person in the history of the world, pure as the yellow snow gets to get even fatter and enjoy bilking the public for more $27 donations because gosh darn, someone calls him for what he truly is "the worlds greatest ego" and that ego and his cult of personality club are indeed, thrilled that they stopped Hllary from winning (in return it means they also are thrilled with Trump, as there are only two choices, A or B. and everything is either for one, or against the other. Talk about getting everyone's priorities wrong. Which is why indeed, Bernie is the same and no different than Nader or Ron Paul or George Wallace or David Duke. (and indeed, for the most part, it is totally impossible to pick apart one crowd from the other as if their crowds were photoshopped or generic photos of an era long ago and far away (Like those that actually think the 1950s were a great time, and Happy Days portrayed the times accurately. Enjoy Trump, he's yours/ yeah, Trump will pay for your school books and give free education to all people in the US and cancel the debts. (and reopen the steel mills that have been shut for decades (all the while ignoring that President Obama has at the end of his 8 years, left America in the greatest shape America has been in decades, with the least unemployment, and the most people now covered under health care than in history. and yeah, all meds will be given free of charge in TrumpWorld. all because some can't handle a women being President, same as people couldn't handle President Obama being black. America weeps. BTW- how many hours did you phonebank this year or do anything to help defeat Donald Trump? What did Bernie accomplish but replenish his own bank account of him and his second wife and get a beautiful lake side property in Northern Vermont. Some revolution, he has nothing to show in the win column (much like Ron Paul) and almost no support in Congress (which had he won, he would have needed their vote to get anything passed). While not my favorite singer, I truly admire all that Katy Perry did, putting herself and her time on the front line of the war, and seeing things for what they were, without being greedy and without absolutism. Might just be in the future that people like Katy Perry and Taylor Swift and Gaga will run for President and break that glass ceiling (after all Trump is nothing more than a talentless failure in life living off of Daddy's money (one never even hears Trump mention his mother as he has a definite hate-hate relationship with all women, most likely a mother complex), who was a reality tv actor (and a member of the actor's union). Applause for Katy and Gaga for their effort (and for Gaga relentlessly doing charity work much like Elton John has done. If the Republicans can be held at bay for four years, it is going to be because of behind the scenes work done by President Obama and others who support the legacy of President Obama, and some little "traps" set by them, and from the relentless work going to be done by President Obama's Justices Sotomayor (My personal favorite on the current court) Kagen, Ginsburg, Breyer, and though he won't be SCOTUS, Justice Garland is the top judge on the top court under the Supreme Court, and he is not leaving that position. So much of the cases will come through him to SCOTUS, and well, hope he remembers the treatment the Republicans gave him. What could have been. But Bernie's cult of personality got what they wanted, so they are giddy in celebration that Hillary won't be President. Because gosh darn, that is the single most important thing after all. Because gosh darn, Bernie is da man and the White House now can revert backwards to being the "white" house, so to all of those, the world is now right again (Pun intended). (Obviously that line is snark satire) 0 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. All the records need to be listened whole. Waiting for a box set vinyl of all 400 songs not on any lp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trayertrash 7,211 Posted December 5, 2016 i love (some) of the responses here and I'm happy to see people passionate about politics and justice. This election really brought out the best in some of y'all. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graham4anything 2,859 Posted December 5, 2016 Doesn't Hillary look cool in the selfies that have shown up on line with supporters bumping into her (in a book store, in the woods, in the market) much as Lana fans take selfies of spur of the moment meetings Hillary is inspirational and it's Hillary Strong. Much like in the new star wars, where I said the day I saw it, Lana was the basis, image for Rey, Hillary is the living warm human being of real life Rey. In a way, the Obi-Wan Kanobe where, although taken down, he (and Hillary now) will be stronger, a battle lost on the way to winning the war shame people have to be hurt in the years delays this will cause. (Was Bernie the Peter Cushing character from the original one (and rumored to be in the next one?) 0 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. All the records need to be listened whole. Waiting for a box set vinyl of all 400 songs not on any lp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAman 3,224 Posted December 5, 2016 This makes me afraid for the future of Standing Rock cause if Trump could go against Scottish people, I'm sure he'll have no problem going against Native Americans. This added to my distaste of Trump before he ran for president. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TRENCH 15,450 Posted December 6, 2016 I wanted Ron Paul lol 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
analwinterofmylife 2,644 Posted December 8, 2016 Doesn't Hillary look cool in the selfies that have shown up on line with supporters bumping into her (in a book store, in the woods, in the market) much as Lana fans take selfies of spur of the moment meetings Hillary is inspirational and it's Hillary Strong. Much like in the new star wars, where I said the day I saw it, Lana was the basis, image for Rey, Hillary is the living warm human being of real life Rey. In a way, the Obi-Wan Kanobe where, although taken down, he (and Hillary now) will be stronger, a battle lost on the way to winning the war shame people have to be hurt in the years delays this will cause. (Was Bernie the Peter Cushing character from the original one (and rumored to be in the next one?) gurl..not you going after bernie supporters for supporting him when you're this far up hillary's ass messy I wanted Ron Paul lol idkher.gif tell us about ha 0 Quote Instagram: pxpi_gringo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TRENCH 15,450 Posted December 9, 2016 idkher.gif tell us about ha As a former member of the U.S. House of Representatives and three-time presidential candidate, Ron Paul tirelessly works for limited, constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. Ron Paul never voted for legislation unless the proposed measure was expressly authorized by the Constitution. Stances: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graham4anything 2,859 Posted December 9, 2016 Ron Paul only believes in the ORIGINAL version of the constitution- and zero of the amendments. He is a big fan of (like Donald Trump) bringing it back to a time in the 1850s when Blacks and women and any other minority could not vote. Ron Paul is a clear and present danger to the world (aka a nut job) and there is not one photo of Ron Paul smoking pot, but he got rich fundraising off the pot issue What is truly great (ironic great) is that Trump's picks are against legalized pot, and along with everything else Trump is going to turn back, so will free pot. One has to laugh at the useful idiot Bernie, who is finding out Trump will dismantle every single thing he can. Just look at his cabinet picks and also look how the military has now at least 5 people in the cabinet, including Homeland Security, which was suppose to be independent of the military,and the spy agencies, which is why it was created in the first place (to clearly show HS is suppose to coordinate. Now it will be filled by military And Bernie and Ron Paul must really love that Ohio wants to ban abortions after 6 weeks (when most women don't yet know they are pregnant ) and if they can't get that, they will narrow it to 20 weeks. Disgusting. Let alone what the Beakman, Paul Ryan (him with the humungous beak) wants to get rid of all because they were scared of a woman being President. Guess Bernie is happy. And the cult of personality Bernie's cult doesn't even realizewhat they did (but their mother's and father's sure do.) BTW- when the repeal the ACA, it is going to be the single biggest tax reduction for the 1% in history, and they haven't even started on taxes. and the biggest raising of the poor and middle class actual dollars needed to pay the bills, in history. (gosh Bernie forgot to tell his minions this would happen didn't he?) Thanks Bernie Bros! You got what you wanted following the useful idiot Bernie, who if he is honest, will admit he didn't realize just how bad Donald and his picks for the cabinets would be. Can one say assuming Bernie didn't want what happened, that it means Bernie is the most naïve person in American history. BTW- states rights= is a historically racist term denoting white rights only. And Ron Paul ran with the backing, justlike Trump of the KKK and David Duke and other hate group extremists, Ron Paul would be a member in good standing of the John Birch Society and all the negatives that applies. (and when I mention Ron, Rand Paul is exactly the same). Far right extremists. 0 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. All the records need to be listened whole. Waiting for a box set vinyl of all 400 songs not on any lp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
analwinterofmylife 2,644 Posted December 9, 2016 Ron Paul only believes in the ORIGINAL version of the constitution- and zero of the amendments. He is a big fan of (like Donald Trump) bringing it back to a time in the 1850s when Blacks and women and any other minority could not vote. Ron Paul is a clear and present danger to the world (aka a nut job) and there is not one photo of Ron Paul smoking pot, but he got rich fundraising off the pot issue What is truly great (ironic great) is that Trump's picks are against legalized pot, and along with everything else Trump is going to turn back, so will free pot. One has to laugh at the useful idiot Bernie, who is finding out Trump will dismantle every single thing he can. Just look at his cabinet picks and also look how the military has now at least 5 people in the cabinet, including Homeland Security, which was suppose to be independent of the military,and the spy agencies, which is why it was created in the first place (to clearly show HS is suppose to coordinate. Now it will be filled by military And Bernie and Ron Paul must really love that Ohio wants to ban abortions after 6 weeks (when most women don't yet know they are pregnant ) and if they can't get that, they will narrow it to 20 weeks. Disgusting. Let alone what the Beakman, Paul Ryan (him with the humungous beak) wants to get rid of all because they were scared of a woman being President. Guess Bernie is happy. And the cult of personality Bernie's cult doesn't even realizewhat they did (but their mother's and father's sure do.) BTW- when the repeal the ACA, it is going to be the single biggest tax reduction for the 1% in history, and they haven't even started on taxes. and the biggest raising of the poor and middle class actual dollars needed to pay the bills, in history. (gosh Bernie forgot to tell his minions this would happen didn't he?) Thanks Bernie Bros! You got what you wanted following the useful idiot Bernie, who if he is honest, will admit he didn't realize just how bad Donald and his picks for the cabinets would be. Can one say assuming Bernie didn't want what happened, that it means Bernie is the most naïve person in American history. BTW- states rights= is a historically racist term denoting white rights only. And Ron Paul ran with the backing, justlike Trump of the KKK and David Duke and other hate group extremists, Ron Paul would be a member in good standing of the John Birch Society and all the negatives that applies. (and when I mention Ron, Rand Paul is exactly the same). Far right extremists. ur so immature fun drinking game! drink every time @graham4anything makes a false comparison 2 Quote Instagram: pxpi_gringo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graham4anything 2,859 Posted December 9, 2016 The adults are the people who willingly, knowingly and lovingly supported and voted for President Clinton, and those folks, a major portion of the 65 million people who voted for President Clinton, are now THE RESISTANCE to the tyranny and on-coming, in-coming dictatorship that with the cabinet picked by Donald Trump and his thugs is attempting to overthrow the free world The kiddies playing games thought it was cool to hate Hillary, regurgitating silly conspiracy theories, for 100% made up fake news smears Time is to start thinking of the next 4 years, and the known fact that only voting for the Democratic party up and down the ballots is the one and only way to win the war that has begun. Every single basic right that has been won since President Lincoln, since FDR, since JFK, since LBJ, since President Obama, is on the verge of collapse unless the resistance becomes the force to stop it and wn the ultimate war. before the doors are locked, and resistance is outlawed. Sometimes, there is no second side to an argument. The Donald Trump brigade is racist, misogynistic, living on hatred of anyone different than the "white supremists" they love. There is no second side to that. It's not a blue screen action movie, nor is it a video game. 2016 began with the death of David Bowie, ends with the death of John Glenn, and the darkness (and impending foreboding doom and the end? of democracy?) world wide looms large. all because it was fun for the kiddies and the haters to hate Hillary. BTW- December 8, the day John Lennon was assassinated. 0 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. All the records need to be listened whole. Waiting for a box set vinyl of all 400 songs not on any lp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
analwinterofmylife 2,644 Posted December 9, 2016 The adults are the people who willingly, knowingly and lovingly supported and voted for President Clinton, and those folks, a major portion of the 65 million people who voted for President Clinton, are now THE RESISTANCE to the tyranny and on-coming, in-coming dictatorship that with the cabinet picked by Donald Trump and his thugs is attempting to overthrow the free world The kiddies playing games thought it was cool to hate Hillary, regurgitating silly conspiracy theories, for 100% made up fake news smears Time is to start thinking of the next 4 years, and the known fact that only voting for the Democratic party up and down the ballots is the one and only way to win the war that has begun. Every single basic right that has been won since President Lincoln, since FDR, since JFK, since LBJ, since President Obama, is on the verge of collapse unless the resistance becomes the force to stop it and wn the ultimate war. before the doors are locked, and resistance is outlawed. Sometimes, there is no second side to an argument. The Donald Trump brigade is racist, misogynistic, living on hatred of anyone different than the "white supremists" they love. There is no second side to that. It's not a blue screen action movie, nor is it a video game. 2016 began with the death of David Bowie, ends with the death of John Glenn, and the darkness (and impending foreboding doom and the end? of democracy?) world wide looms large. all because it was fun for the kiddies and the haters to hate Hillary. BTW- December 8, the day John Lennon was assassinated. its not about hillary or bernie its about being informed, making a change, being informed, voting for yours and the country's best interest in mind. you're the one who is still hung up on the fact that shittlery clinton got beat by donny tinyhands. GURL GET OVER IT .. ur still pining over the fact that bernie existed and got a more dedicated following than ur queen HRC lmaooo. so far you've only regurgitated silly conspiracy theories too things like bernie bros even existing.. gurl except in places where the area isn't diverse, bernie had the most diverse crowd out of all the candidates. I went to one of his rallies, talked to a lot of people they were all informed, nice people.. im not an unfactual or unrealistic person. i definitely think that hillary wouldve made a better pres than trump. obviouslyyyy but cut the shit about blaming bernie and making him and his campaign out to be something they arent.. you dont want hillary to get unfairly judged, why unfairly judge bernie? did he criticize her ? YEAH HE DID and fairly i may add.. but after his campaign, he supported her. Anyone who u suggest may have been senselessly enamored with bernie probably voted for her, cuz thats what bernie wanted lol. I really dont think his criticism told anyone things they didnt already know though. im someone who likes facts.. from what ive seen, even taking into account the gun control criticism, i like bernie's proposed policies, and his way of running a campaign, and his voting record better than hillary's.. does that make hillary worse then trump ... no? it just makes her another typical politician. IDK If you expect me to be kissing obama and hillary's ass then ur barking up the wrong tree.. while i will gladly appreciate the amazing work they have done for what it is but, i refuse to turn a blind eye to the many things that still need to be done. or things that imo have been done wrong. 2 Quote Instagram: pxpi_gringo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graham4anything 2,859 Posted December 9, 2016 So what year do you expect those things to happen? Now that everything will be rolled back far to the right, once again wasting years just to get back to where we are today all because "we didn't get there fast enough" to suit Bernie and the Absolute crowd. and after he finally got out of the way, what did Bernie concentrate on? Bitter vendettas against DWS and petty backing of challenges to house members who were Democratic candidates, doing nothing to elect anyone against the Republicans. And getting rid of the (D) and becoming an independent again, showing his hatred of the party that was nice enough to let him run. (BTW- Ron Paul always had an ® next to his name, and did the biding of Tom DeLay when DeLay came calling.) I do hope Perez jumps into and wins the DNC race, last thing the DNC head needs to be is a Bernie person. Meanwhile Republican Senator McCain and Lindsey Graham (not the Graham referenced by my board name) are going to investigate along with the Democratic people in the senate, the way Putin meddled/intererred/hacked out election, regardless of how Trump feels. (Even militant hard right pro-war Republican Rep. Peter King, Long Island agrees Putin interfered and meddled (and in all likelihood stole the election for Trump) and while Bernie put down Hillary for not going for $15 an hour, while Hillary said $12 an hour, REALITYSHOWS- Trump's new labor secretary is on record of no more than $9 an hour, and wants to get rid of all regulations including food regulations. Guess we shall all be eating pink slime soon in everything 0 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. All the records need to be listened whole. Waiting for a box set vinyl of all 400 songs not on any lp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
analwinterofmylife 2,644 Posted December 9, 2016 So what year do you expect those things to happen? Now that everything will be rolled back far to the right, once again wasting years just to get back to where we are today all because "we didn't get there fast enough" to suit Bernie and the Absolute crowd. and after he finally got out of the way, what did Bernie concentrate on? Bitter vendettas against DWS and petty backing of challenges to house members who were Democratic candidates, doing nothing to elect anyone against the Republicans. And getting rid of the (D) and becoming an independent again, showing his hatred of the party that was nice enough to let him run. (BTW- Ron Paul always had an ® next to his name, and did the biding of Tom DeLay when DeLay came calling.) I do hope Perez jumps into and wins the DNC race, last thing the DNC head needs to be is a Bernie person. Meanwhile Republican Senator McCain and Lindsey Graham (not the Graham referenced by my board name) are going to investigate along with the Democratic people in the senate, the way Putin meddled/intererred/hacked out election, regardless of how Trump feels. (Even militant hard right pro-war Republican Rep. Peter King, Long Island agrees Putin interfered and meddled (and in all likelihood stole the election for Trump) and while Bernie put down Hillary for not going for $15 an hour, while Hillary said $12 an hour, REALITYSHOWS- Trump's new labor secretary is on record of no more than $9 an hour, and wants to get rid of all regulations including food regulations. Guess we shall all be eating pink slime soon in everything sorry gurl but thats really not accurate... he focussed for a very short amount of time on DWS, and he barely even funded her opponent .. he mentioned her opponent like once.. you really have a skewed view here.. Yes he did support someone else, but it was someone who he believed would be better because they had similar stances, not simply because DWS treated bernie unfairly.. trust me bernie and DWS disagree on quite a few things lol you have it in your head that he dislikes them for no reason.. but he dislikes them because in his opinion theyre up their donor's asses, and those donors do not want whats best for the american working class. so naturally he is gonna bring attention to a candidate who he feels would better support the working class. you have some kind of sensationalized view where bernie is literally the grimm reaper, what policies of his do you agree/disagree with? what policies of hillary's do you agree/disagree with? what you do think of the criticisms against hillary like her voting for bad trade agreements, supporting crime bills, voting for wars, playing hands in libya and honduras? the private email server, her being in the pocket of big banks, the collusion between the media and her campaign ? i agree with you that its gonna be ten times harder to make progress because of trump but it seems like you're neglecting the fact that trump got a lot of votes simply for not being clinton.. the media managed to successfully demonize clinton as a war hawk/criminal, as did the FBI director. Lots and lots of people voted for trump, not because they liked trump but because they liked hillary, and lots of people liked trump as well, he appealed as an outside of the establishment candidate and hillary came off as the epitome of the establishment. i think a lot of right wing people buy into a ton of propaganda about hillary instead of the truth tho.. which she is a successful corporate politician basically, who has a ton of experience! and hunty trumps positions suck but thats not bernie's fault... Yeah it sucks that clinton lost.. but thats not completely bernie's fault you make it sound like he completely intended to get trump elected.. obviously not the case lmfao 1 Quote Instagram: pxpi_gringo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graham4anything 2,859 Posted December 9, 2016 I have told you, I believe President Obama is the single best President since Lincoln, and I wanted 100% of his legacy/agenda to be continued by President Clinton, no more, no less. I believe in a world wide trade and treaties like the TPP and Nafta both of which are beneficial to the US and Canada as the US needs foreign trade MORE than they need us. I have nothing against companies and the millions of average people who work on Wall Street and in banks. President Obama saved the world from a depression, saving the lives and finances of all President Obama gave us the best possible start to universal health care that was attainable in a country that has the coasts which are liberal and some very conservative places in between President Obama gave us Gay Marriage and Transgender rights President Obama nominated 2 of the greatest SCOTUS of all time, Kagen and my favorite, Sonia Sotomayor. President Clinton nominated 2 great ones including Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who called the Trump voters for what they were (right on girl) when she called them deplorables. (and anyone who voted for Trump or did not vote for Clinton because of what the word represents is deplorable. President Obama's cabinet choices that were important to him (like the great Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch, made election voting rights and seeing that civil rights fought by Dr. King & LBJ were looked into (yes, I am a fan of #blacklivlesmatter) President Obama ended waterboarding (though the CIA and the FBI, and other rogue agencies of course thik they are above and beyond any power, one plain to see when Comey went rogue on Hillary and falsely destroyed her (Comey should be looked into under the Hatch act, and the rogue generals who backed Trump IMHO committed treason in their coup d'état of Hillary. As the President, both Hillary and Obama are not dictators, they can't snap their fingers and end aggressions. especially with a rogue military and alphabet agencies out there. I would have supported the retirement of Putin, and the bringing back of the democracy that Gorby gave the people, perhaps with Gorby as interim leader.Sometimes one has to do things, like should have been done prior to what Hitler did. I am a person who believes it too FDR far too many years to get intothe war, he should have gotten in and done something earlier. and getting rid of Libya's leader Q is a great thing- he was a terrorist who blew up a jet with was it many hundreds of people losing their life. Who gave the people there no rights, no freedoms. And the US didn't kill him, his own people did. Good riddance to rubbish. The world is a better place without that vile dictator in it. Have fun with Trump, because he is not for peace, he is 100% in Putin's control (goodbye Europe Putin is attempting to overthrow Angela now,) and if anyone is the one to rail against, it would be Putin, who would love and aspires to be Hitler. Try having Gay marriage in Putin's Russia, for instance, or for speaking out against him on the internet Pretty soon, that might not be possible here. I read yesterday Trump and his thugs are going to make it impossible to protest on the Mall in DC, which is public property and used for political protest as long as its been there. Lincoln, Garfield, JFK, RFK, Dr. King, all taken in an instant, all people who would have made things better, and now add Hillary to that list who was character assassinated like they did to Jimmy Carter. and as to the media- all the major stations, the alt-right, the alt-left, all hated Hillary. Including CNN and MSNBC which is Trump TV which Trump was on 24-7-365 and now we hear Trump is the producer still of the Apprentice show coming up. NBC gave Trump a hosting job last year on SNL (yet Trump is trying to get them to fire Alec Baldwin, because the dictator-to-be can't take criticism and no Republican ever understands satire anyhow. Hillary should form a shadow gov't and run for re-election in 2020. I would proudly vote for her, but I doubt that would happen. I would vote for Joe Biden and Michelle Obama and Kamala Harris and Mike Bloomberg and Cory Booker and Deval Patrick, Elizabeth Warren,etc. As long as the CBC, which IMHO I believe is the group that should be listened to the most of any group firmly and early backs that person. As all the good voters in the states of Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan and PA, also in NC, Florida already 100% voted for Hillaryin 2016, I would not waste a minute attempting to get the racists and deplorables who voted for Trump. and the US should mandatory vote in Presidential elections. I will work for getting everyone on the voting rolls, eligible to work, and 100% back Eric Holder who is working on just that. Best thing about Hillary no one can deny- she got Ruth Bader Ginburg on the court, and would have nominated another 5 to 7 justices in 8 years. Now one has to hope Trump only gets to choose Scalia's replacement which only makes it a temporary wash, and perhaps replaces Thomas who will retire or be forced to retire like W forced O'Connor. For those not rich who need healthcare and those women who need a place like Planned Parenthood, which is a wonderful place a Free America has had there will be no options in many states now if PP gets closed. (for instance, no low-cost Cancer screenings). It's back to the 50s with Trump. Thanks absolutists the blood is on those people hands. They have stopped all forward motion and brought it backwards Remember, Hillary got the 2nd largest vote in history (close to 66 million.)Trump got LESS than the abysmal amound of votes Mitt got in 2012 (where Mitt got less than 47%). Republican votes=finite Democratic votes=infinite So what are doing to help the election in 2017,18,19,20 and beyond? Pining for Bernie doesn't do anything. As Hillary long before Bernie thought about issues, was on the side of 95% of Bernie's issues, working for her would have insured most of those issues happened. Bernie couldn't defeat her, and had he been nominated, he would have gotten 4EVs and that is all. He was 100% unvetted to the nation and Trump and 100% of the media would have destroyed him. Last real media person who existed was Dan Rather, Jack Germond, and Jack Cafferty. Everyone else is bad. (one would think someone on the Lanaboard would know that as look at what all the media did to her, ESPECIALLY DONALD TRUMP'S NBC AND MSNBC (which includes Brian Williams who so abused Lana during SNL) and sorry, I don't condone Trump's voters who are racist, homophobic, Islamphobic, anti-women, anti- #blacklivesmatter who don't understand why #blacklivesmatter is important and exists. Nor do I wish to attempt to get those votes in a future election. It's not like anyone is going to get 100% of the people, and Hillary in 2016 got more votes than anyone except President Obama in 2008. as said, Republicans have a finite # of voters, that decreases daily due to aging and no replacement votes. Which is why Republicans cheat to win, as they can't otherwise. 0 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. 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analwinterofmylife 2,644 Posted December 9, 2016 I have told you, I believe President Obama is the single best President since Lincoln, and I wanted 100% of his legacy/agenda to be continued by President Clinton, no more, no less. I believe in a world wide trade and treaties like the TPP and Nafta both of which are beneficial to the US and Canada as the US needs foreign trade MORE than they need us. I have nothing against companies and the millions of average people who work on Wall Street and in banks. President Obama saved the world from a depression, saving the lives and finances of all President Obama gave us the best possible start to universal health care that was attainable in a country that has the coasts which are liberal and some very conservative places in between President Obama gave us Gay Marriage and Transgender rights President Obama nominated 2 of the greatest SCOTUS of all time, Kagen and my favorite, Sonia Sotomayor. President Clinton nominated 2 great ones including Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who called the Trump voters for what they were (right on girl) when she called them deplorables. (and anyone who voted for Trump or did not vote for Clinton because of what the word represents is deplorable. President Obama's cabinet choices that were important to him (like the great Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch, made election voting rights and seeing that civil rights fought by Dr. King & LBJ were looked into (yes, I am a fan of #blacklivlesmatter) President Obama ended waterboarding (though the CIA and the FBI, and other rogue agencies of course thik they are above and beyond any power, one plain to see when Comey went rogue on Hillary and falsely destroyed her (Comey should be looked into under the Hatch act, and the rogue generals who backed Trump IMHO committed treason in their coup d'état of Hillary. As the President, both Hillary and Obama are not dictators, they can't snap their fingers and end aggressions. especially with a rogue military and alphabet agencies out there. I would have supported the retirement of Putin, and the bringing back of the democracy that Gorby gave the people, perhaps with Gorby as interim leader.Sometimes one has to do things, like should have been done prior to what Hitler did. I am a person who believes it too FDR far too many years to get intothe war, he should have gotten in and done something earlier. and getting rid of Libya's leader Q is a great thing- he was a terrorist who blew up a jet with was it many hundreds of people losing their life. Who gave the people there no rights, no freedoms. And the US didn't kill him, his own people did. Good riddance to rubbish. The world is a better place without that vile dictator in it. Have fun with Trump, because he is not for peace, he is 100% in Putin's control (goodbye Europe Putin is attempting to overthrow Angela now,) and if anyone is the one to rail against, it would be Putin, who would love and aspires to be Hitler. Try having Gay marriage in Putin's Russia, for instance, or for speaking out against him on the internet Pretty soon, that might not be possible here. I read yesterday Trump and his thugs are going to make it impossible to protest on the Mall in DC, which is public property and used for political protest as long as its been there. Lincoln, Garfield, JFK, RFK, Dr. King, all taken in an instant, all people who would have made things better, and now add Hillary to that list who was character assassinated like they did to Jimmy Carter. and as to the media- all the major stations, the alt-right, the alt-left, all hated Hillary. Including CNN and MSNBC which is Trump TV which Trump was on 24-7-365 and now we hear Trump is the producer still of the Apprentice show coming up. NBC gave Trump a hosting job last year on SNL (yet Trump is trying to get them to fire Alec Baldwin, because the dictator-to-be can't take criticism and no Republican ever understands satire anyhow. Hillary should form a shadow gov't and run for re-election in 2020. I would proudly vote for her, but I doubt that would happen. I would vote for Joe Biden and Michelle Obama and Kamala Harris and Mike Bloomberg and Cory Booker and Deval Patrick, Elizabeth Warren,etc. As long as the CBC, which IMHO I believe is the group that should be listened to the most of any group firmly and early backs that person. As all the good voters in the states of Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan and PA, also in NC, Florida already 100% voted for Hillaryin 2016, I would not waste a minute attempting to get the racists and deplorables who voted for Trump. and the US should mandatory vote in Presidential elections. I will work for getting everyone on the voting rolls, eligible to work, and 100% back Eric Holder who is working on just that. Best thing about Hillary no one can deny- she got Ruth Bader Ginburg on the court, and would have nominated another 5 to 7 justices in 8 years. Now one has to hope Trump only gets to choose Scalia's replacement which only makes it a temporary wash, and perhaps replaces Thomas who will retire or be forced to retire like W forced O'Connor. For those not rich who need healthcare and those women who need a place like Planned Parenthood, which is a wonderful place a Free America has had there will be no options in many states now if PP gets closed. (for instance, no low-cost Cancer screenings). It's back to the 50s with Trump. Thanks absolutists the blood is on those people hands. They have stopped all forward motion and brought it backwards Remember, Hillary got the 2nd largest vote in history (close to 66 million.) Trump got LESS than the abysmal amound of votes Mitt got in 2012 (where Mitt got less than 47%). Republican votes=finite Democratic votes=infinite So what are doing to help the election in 2017,18,19,20 and beyond? Pining for Bernie doesn't do anything. As Hillary long before Bernie thought about issues, was on the side of 95% of Bernie's issues, working for her would have insured most of those issues happened. Bernie couldn't defeat her, and had he been nominated, he would have gotten 4EVs and that is all. He was 100% unvetted to the nation and Trump and 100% of the media would have destroyed him. Last real media person who existed was Dan Rather, Jack Germond, and Jack Cafferty. Everyone else is bad. (one would think someone on the Lanaboard would know that as look at what all the media did to her, ESPECIALLY DONALD TRUMP'S NBC AND MSNBC (which includes Brian Williams who so abused Lana during SNL) and sorry, I don't condone Trump's voters who are racist, homophobic, Islamphobic, anti-women, anti- #blacklivesmatter who don't understand why #blacklivesmatter is important and exists. Nor do I wish to attempt to get those votes in a future election. It's not like anyone is going to get 100% of the people, and Hillary in 2016 got more votes than anyone except President Obama in 2008. as said, Republicans have a finite # of voters, that decreases daily due to aging and no replacement votes. Which is why Republicans cheat to win, as they can't otherwise. good points, i hope obama gets the appreciation he deserves for doing all the work he has done.. wish u were more objective tho lol 1 Quote Instagram: pxpi_gringo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAman 3,224 Posted December 13, 2016 I don't think being a President of the US means anything anymore 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TRENCH 15,450 Posted December 14, 2016 I don't think being a President of the US means anything anymore trash standing next to trash. yawn 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macintosh Manhattan 6,511 Posted December 14, 2016 I don't think being a President of the US means anything anymore Honestly surprised there standing together. Surely there jupiter sized ego's would've destroyed the building they were in 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melania 2,386 Posted December 14, 2016 I don't think being a President of the US means anything anymore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dTQSON9dSk well this was.. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites