Viva

Trial in April 2016. Goodbye to ha career...

At this point Interscope wishes they had controlled Gaga's career and mouth. Her career would probably be in a better shape. Applause is catchy as hell and Donatella and Manicure are great, besides that Artpop is crap. You can't possibly think that album with the titles as shown was a label influencing Gaga and not Gaga getting her way. It's far from commercial pop and radio friendly as it can be, we are talking about America here and I can't see radios playing or being able to give radio time to songs like Swine or Sexx Dreams. Gaga also did a collab with a pedo, that probably made her marketing team want to commit collective suicide. That's not a label or one person controlling her, that's Gaga running around loose, with a very long leash fucking her career up.
 
Jazzy Gaga was great for her in many ways, image included. Plus her voice suits Jazz pretty well, she's so tolerable when she's quiet just singing with her hand occupied playing a piano, she should stay there for a while. Cheek to Cheek is a good album, credit should be given when credit is deserved.
 
UV is another album far from radio friendly in US, actually most of Lana's material is not what US radio craves, what I don't get is how she and her team don't get that. I'm not saying for her to change in any way, just saying Lana should've understand by now that 90% of her material is not single radio material and critics wont praise her as much as she wants and deserves. About the mentor, I have no idea who is this mentor you talk about. Who is??
 
Anyway, I think Gaga and Lana share a lot of similarities for many reasons, including music background. They probably have a similar CD collection. Both are visual artists, with a underground NY in their veins, both have huge mouths capable of spill some iconic BS and play the victim after seeing that the iconic sentences was in fact BS and both are very talented. Both craved and crave fame, both crave to be deserving of such fame in different directions, but relevance, applause and credibility is fundamental for both. The Fame Monster bites both in the ass when they saw that for critics pop artists are Born to Die.
 
The difference imo, between Lana and Gaga is that Lana is living up to her potential and Gaga isn't. 

yes. There's a dude behind the scenes pulling the ropes , making Lana and Jazzy Gaga move around and write songs.
 
Nothing to do with Jazz being a trend for almost 4 years now or Gaga being, prior her pop days, a jazz influenced artist. Nothing to do with that, it's for certain someone pulling the ropes

I can't if that wins over Tropico. 

Miley stole a good part in the beginning of the year, now Taylor Pop Swift will steal the remain ones. It's the rise of Hope Destiny, Pop Bop Taytay and Elizabeth the Great. Gaga is screaming and making voodoo dolls to get her gays back while Madonna gives that smirk smile and evil laugh at them and thinking : enjoy bitches because I will get all those queers back, their souls belongs to me

Oh she knows her, since Lana has hijacked half of her fanbase

Jazz Fusion is actually jazz elements mixed with several others like rock/funk/pop/EDM/ Classic music. That's what I understand for Jazz Fusion tho. Was a really strong trend/wave in South America from 4 to 5 years now. 
 
 

 
ffy

I should have qualified that having the adversarial system in criminal proceedings ***opens the door*** to treating victims this way, and rape cases are exactly the type where the problem occurs.
 
There's plenty of room between the adversarial system and presuming guilt
 
I'll add more details soon.

Jazz Fusion is actually jazz elements mixed with several others like rock/funk/pop/EDM/ Classic music. That's what I understand for Jazz Fusion tho. Was a really strong trend/wave in South America from 4 to 5 years now. 
 
 

 
ffy

Once a Madonna medley act & artflopist, now a self-declared jazz back-up singer for a man who is as old as Methuselah. 

A lot of rock is jazz influenced. In LDR's case, she does a lot of slow scatting (Brooklyn Baby, Shades of Cool), which is definitely something I could see as being closer to Ella Fitzgerald's style than Lady Gaga's. Lady Gaga appreciates jazz too, although I don't know if she does any scatting outside of her Bennett collab.   Also let's not forget AKA, For K part 2, Mermaid Motel, and Yayo, seem pretty jazz-oriented to me.

WELCOME to the garden of Evil and sassy bitches
 

I just wanted to clarify my earlier post in case any subsequent posts were directed at it. First, I want to stress that I never said I think she's lying nor do I assume that or think it would be right to do so. At the same time, I also think taking allegations of sexual assault seriously should not entail presuming guilt of the accused.
 
That said, it may be indelicate or politically incorrect to say so, but there simply are aspects to her allegations that make them less credible (if even only marginally less so) than they might otherwise be. All other things being equal, an allegation made shortly after the fact is more credible than one made years later against an adversary. An allegation made by someone who cuts off contact with an alleged non-romantic, non-familial perpetrator is more credible than someone who continues to interact normally. (I personally have a hard time understanding this one because I've never wanted anything bad enough that I would tolerate a hypothetical abuser to get it, but everyone's different.) An allegation made without any possible ulterior motive is more credible than one with one. An accuser also seeking redress for a criminal act in a criminal court is more credible than one only seeking financial redress for a criminal act in civil court. Does any of that mean she's lying? Of course not. But it's simply a fact that the combination of these factors will affect any assessment of the credibility of her allegations by a neutral third party. As will other factors that weigh more in her favor.
 
Assuming she is telling the truth I really hope she pursues criminal charges. I have to say I find the idea of being just fine with your rapist going free so long as you can get out of your contract with him rather off-putting.
 
 
I'm actually not quite sure what you mean by this. I'm no lawyer, but my understanding of our system in the US is that the accused are presumed innocent unless proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Yes, it places the burden of proof on the accuser, but renders no judgment on the accuser's honesty-- unless the accuser is later tried for defamation (as may happen here) where the accuser (now the accused) is presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. Ke$ha may face a high burden proving he raped her, but Dr. Luke would also face a high burden proving he didn't.
 
There are obvious drawbacks to this system, but I can't think of an alternative where the drawbacks aren't worse.

At this point Interscope wishes they had controlled Gaga's career and mouth. Her career would probably be in a better shape. Applause is catchy as hell and Donatella and Manicure are great, besides that Artpop is crap. You can't possibly think that album with the titles as shown was a label influencing Gaga and not Gaga getting her way. It's far from commercial pop and radio friendly as it can be, we are talking about America here and I can't see radios playing or being able to give radio time to songs like Swine or Sexx Dreams. Gaga also did a collab with a pedo, that probably made her marketing team want to commit collective suicide. That's not a label or one person controlling her, that's Gaga running around loose, with a very long leash fucking her career up.
 
Jazzy Gaga was great for her in many ways, image included. Plus her voice suits Jazz pretty well, she's so tolerable when she's quiet just singing with her hand occupied playing a piano, she should stay there for a while. Cheek to Cheek is a good album, credit should be given when credit is deserved.
 
UV is another album far from radio friendly in US, actually most of Lana's material is not what US radio craves, what I don't get is how she and her team don't get that. I'm not saying for her to change in any way, just saying Lana should've understand by now that 90% of her material is not single radio material and critics wont praise her as much as she wants and deserves. About the mentor, I have no idea who is this mentor you talk about. Who is??
 
Anyway, I think Gaga and Lana share a lot of similarities for many reasons, including music background. They probably have a similar CD collection. Both are visual artists, with a underground NY in their veins, both have huge mouths capable of spill some iconic BS and play the victim after seeing that the iconic sentences was in fact BS and both are very talented. Both craved and crave fame, both crave to be deserving of such fame in different directions, but relevance, applause and credibility is fundamental for both. The Fame Monster bites both in the ass when they saw that for critics pop artists are Born to Die.
 
The difference imo, between Lana and Gaga is that Lana is living up to her potential and Gaga isn't. 

At this point Interscope wishes they had controlled Gaga's career and mouth. Her career would probably be in a better shape. Applause is catchy as hell and Donatella and Manicure are great, besides that Artpop is crap. You can't possibly think that album with the titles as shown was a label influencing Gaga and not Gaga getting her way. It's far from commercial pop and radio friendly as it can be, we are talking about America here and I can't see radios playing or being able to give radio time to songs like Swine or Sexx Dreams. Gaga also did a collab with a pedo, that probably made her marketing team want to commit collective suicide. That's not a label or one person controlling her, that's Gaga running around loose, with a very long leash fucking her career up.
 
Jazzy Gaga was great for her in many ways, image included. Plus her voice suits Jazz pretty well, she's so tolerable when she's quiet just singing with her hand occupied playing a piano, she should stay there for a while. Cheek to Cheek is a good album, credit should be given when credit is deserved.
 
UV is another album far from radio friendly in US, actually most of Lana's material is not what US radio craves, what I don't get is how she and her team don't get that. I'm not saying for her to change in any way, just saying Lana should've understand by now that 90% of her material is not single radio material and critics wont praise her as much as she wants and deserves. About the mentor, I have no idea who is this mentor you talk about. Who is??
 
Anyway, I think Gaga and Lana share a lot of similarities for many reasons, including music background. They probably have a similar CD collection. Both are visual artists, with a underground NY in their veins, both have huge mouths capable of spill some iconic BS and play the victim after seeing that the iconic sentences was in fact BS and both are very talented. Both craved and crave fame, both crave to be deserving of such fame in different directions, but relevance, applause and credibility is fundamental for both. The Fame Monster bites both in the ass when they saw that for critics pop artists are Born to Die.
 
The difference imo, between Lana and Gaga is that Lana is living up to her potential and Gaga isn't. 

At this point Interscope wishes they had controlled Gaga's career and mouth. Her career would probably be in a better shape. Applause is catchy as hell and Donatella and Manicure are great, besides that Artpop is crap. You can't possibly think that album with the titles as shown was a label influencing Gaga and not Gaga getting her way. It's far from commercial pop and radio friendly as it can be, we are talking about America here and I can't see radios playing or being able to give radio time to songs like Swine or Sexx Dreams. Gaga also did a collab with a pedo, that probably made her marketing team want to commit collective suicide. That's not a label or one person controlling her, that's Gaga running around loose, with a very long leash fucking her career up.
 
Jazzy Gaga was great for her in many ways, image included. Plus her voice suits Jazz pretty well, she's so tolerable when she's quiet just singing with her hand occupied playing a piano, she should stay there for a while. Cheek to Cheek is a good album, credit should be given when credit is deserved.
 
UV is another album far from radio friendly in US, actually most of Lana's material is not what US radio craves, what I don't get is how she and her team don't get that. I'm not saying for her to change in any way, just saying Lana should've understand by now that 90% of her material is not single radio material and critics wont praise her as much as she wants and deserves. About the mentor, I have no idea who is this mentor you talk about. Who is??
 
Anyway, I think Gaga and Lana share a lot of similarities for many reasons, including music background. They probably have a similar CD collection. Both are visual artists, with a underground NY in their veins, both have huge mouths capable of spill some iconic BS and play the victim after seeing that the iconic sentences was in fact BS and both are very talented. Both craved and crave fame, both crave to be deserving of such fame in different directions, but relevance, applause and credibility is fundamental for both. The Fame Monster bites both in the ass when they saw that for critics pop artists are Born to Die.
 
The difference imo, between Lana and Gaga is that Lana is living up to her potential and Gaga isn't. 

yes. There's a dude behind the scenes pulling the ropes , making Lana and Jazzy Gaga move around and write songs.
 
Nothing to do with Jazz being a trend for almost 4 years now or Gaga being, prior her pop days, a jazz influenced artist. Nothing to do with that, it's for certain someone pulling the ropes

yes. There's a dude behind the scenes pulling the ropes , making Lana and Jazzy Gaga move around and write songs.
 
Nothing to do with Jazz being a trend for almost 4 years now or Gaga being, prior her pop days, a jazz influenced artist. Nothing to do with that, it's for certain someone pulling the ropes

I sincerely doubt that Lana covered Leonard Cohen as an ode to Gaga..

This is pure comedy actually.

love u 
 
this one escalated fast

yes. There's a dude behind the scenes pulling the ropes , making Lana and Jazzy Gaga move around and write songs.
 
Nothing to do with Jazz being a trend for almost 4 years now or Gaga being, prior her pop days, a jazz influenced artist. Nothing to do with that, it's for certain someone pulling the ropes

yes. There's a dude behind the scenes pulling the ropes , making Lana and Jazzy Gaga move around and write songs.
 
Nothing to do with Jazz being a trend for almost 4 years now or Gaga being, prior her pop days, a jazz influenced artist. Nothing to do with that, it's for certain someone pulling the ropes

stefani u suk

I think Lana always craved (a lot) fame. Thing is that's not ALL she craves, in Lana's case is a little more complex then someone like Kim K or Paris Hilton because she also craves being deserving of such fame.
 
The fame Lana craves is not empty or fame for fame, she wants and craves fame with credibility and approval. The approval and credibility comes in the form of recognition of her work and her as a person and artist. The fame she craves needs approval from the public, the industry, critics, needs credibility and substance because that's how she sees her art and that's how she wants to be seen: credible and most of all relevant.  
 
She wants to be famous because of her music, others to consider her music/art  as beautiful as she does. That's another one of her addictions, that in my opinion, highly influence her work: Beauty.  She's addicted to beauty as well. If what she considers beauty is for your or my taste, that's another story. But her addiction to beauty is undeniable: her description of landscapes as beautiful, her description of man, her own description, the way she describes America beauty as a culture/country in the past and the contrast with the present. Her words of beauty also need to combine with beautiful visuals, hence why her videos are carefully crafted, even the ones we consider shit like the Iphone video or the Poltergeist video.
 
A credible, relevant artist with beautiful videos and beautiful voice and lyrics, that' how she wants to be perceived. Fame for fame is not what she craves, would be a lot easier for her to be satisfied is was just that, since isn't I guess we will see her get annoyed for the rest of her album releases. And no, she wont stop doing music, because like any other addict they don't stop until their crave gets satisfied, so until she finds the credibility she searches for she wont stop
 
I think she doesn't regret fame, she does have a butt hurt feeling and attitude towards the industry, mostly and specially the US and their critics.