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Yeah I think @@SitarHero. I'm amused as you lol saying that about Hannah Montana 
 
Everything is gimmicks until a certain extent , isn't ? The difference between Miley and most is that she has a great album and tour to support the gimmicks. Another thing about Miley: she doesn't want to fool you with the fact she's fooling you. When did you saw an artist say bluntly that "was for the view, was a gimmick and no it wasn't for the music or art" ?? She's so honest is confusing LOL.  I saw the concert (youtube since she didn't got here YET) and seems everything I expected to be. Pitchfork did an awesome critic (for a change) that express a lot how I feel about Miley.
 
here if you are interested 

@ to be fair Avril already got through the 10+ years mark. I put her in the list for a kick because she's not really a pop artist like Amy Lee or Florence. I think Avril and the other 2 will be around for a long time.
 
The ones I'm pretty sure will have longevity
1. Adele
2. Miley
3. Rihanna
4. Lana
 
Maybe
1. Katy Perry
2. Lady Gaga
3. Shakira
4. Beyoncé
 
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Adele- Besides been the less expensive of them all since all she really needs is a mic, a piano and a couple of lights Adele is a complete artist. The only thing that can get in her way is Adele herself getting tired of it all and deciding to retire at 30 or so. If she doesn't pretty sure we will listen to her when we are 80. She's white Brit version of Aretha and young Tina. I refuse to die before she does a duet with Madonna and make Beyoncé burn all her wigs in dispaire
 
Miley - Miley is Madonna smart and the fact most people think she's dumb as a door goes in her favor. I actually am very excited to see what's next for Miley because she has it all: The brains, marketing vision, the voice, sense of humor and self awareness and musical ability to go very far. I also think she was born with the strong structure to get through the punches like Madonna. 
 
Rihanna - The best and most successful pop star of our generation. Riri is amazing tbh, look at how she's successful at every single thing she does: hit songs, fashion lines, movies, tours, everything she touches turns into hits or money. AMAZING. The fact Rihanna doesn't give 2 cents to all her glory, awards, albums, tours and campaigns also is amazing.  Like "Give me that shit award because I have better things to do I'm bored here" 
 
Lana - Lana can go both ways but I think she's here to stay and slay. Song writing skills is very important for longevity, when all the looks fade and tricks don't work anymore. Lana has that in her favor and also her voice , like Adele and Rihanna, have a pretty unique sound. 
 
 
Katy Perry - I really like The Perry but I can't see her evolving from this KP to Madonna Katy Perry or Lana Katy Perry. Does that make any sense? Like when funny, cool katy is over, what's left?
I hope she does tho I think KP is a great visual artist and can write some really good pop songs, let's see if she can have a long career. 
 
Gaga - Gaga has a lot of talent and even if I'm not a fan and poke her a lot, I can't deny that. I also think The Fame Monster is one of the best pop albums of the last decades. I think the problem with Gaga is not talent is team work or lake of it, complete mess when the subject is organization and making plans go through. If she gets her shit together she can go far no doubt. The same bitch who wrote the basics ARTFLOP and Born This Fay is the woman who wrote the incredibles The Fame and The Fame Monster so I will give her a couple more shots, who knows?
 
Shakira - Shaki needs to put her shot together. She's here for a long time, 20 years, but her star is not as used to be. I guess in amny ways Shakira is a different type of pop star. I mean speaks 7 languages, has an IQ that blows roofs, created a international successful charity which not only is a success but the method she's used in her educational system is used in several countries. Yes, she created her own method and she started her charity at 17 with the money of her first album. Everything she does is for education specially for kids. Pies Descalzos and Barefoot are amazing tbh. I thiink that makes her different from the rest like Audrey was. But success is success and those 7.000 kids she supports wont feed themselves so she better bring some better material to the table.
 
Beyoncé - Ugh...when she runs out of people to steal ideas and credits what will happen to her? She also terrifies me because she has only 3 facial expressions and is not caused by excessive botox. She literally and naturally has 3 facial expressions.  That and the fact her hair needs 90 fans to move when she's on stage bugs the hell out of me....now tell me if that's not bizarre? I can't see America able to lie to the entire world much longer when the subject is : Beyoncé is the queen, she's amazing. I mean let's talk about her amazing, incredible, marketing team. Can you imagine how different Gaga's career would be if her team was half as effective as Beysus?
 
People will see that Beysus act and songs are as basic as a banana soon. Right??

I think she is progressing into an incredible visual artist. Her visual world keeps getting better even if her song writing is a little stuck. Give the woman a break tho we have more than 300 Lana songs. I bet if you had 300 songs from any other artist you would find them repectitive too. Lana has more leaks then the Beatles and Rolling Stones entire discography combined. 

I think she is progressing into an incredible visual artist. Her visual world keeps getting better even if her song writing is a little stuck. Give the woman a break tho we have more than 300 Lana songs. I bet if you had 300 songs from any other artist you would find them repectitive too. Lana has more leaks then the Beatles and Rolling Stones entire discography combined. 

was a joke, obviously 
 
Anyway , 3 things happened to Azealia's career: US, Interscope and Azealia's personality

Azealia Banks is like a new innovative car, but it keeps crashing into other better well known cars, and it ran out of fuel in the middle of the desert and now no one's really trying to push it to the nearest town to get the tank refilled...

Exactly, she's an ALBUM artist. Madonna has had hit singles in almost every decade. Beyoncé hasn't. She's also not that successful outside of the UK and the US.

we will always have dildos @@Heaux, always 

The Beyonce doubt lmao. I'll see you guys in a decade when she's still selling albums like crazy
 
Crying at Azealia on this poll. She has longevity in my heart

ill try but dick will always have a special place in my heart

Thanks for the nom

How can Beyoncé have Madonna's longevity when she's not even capable to produce hit singles, (anymore)? Please...
 
I don't think any of them will be capable of what Madonna has done over the past decades.
 
Gaga is the one that's most likely to do so, but the problem with her is, that she has too much going on and she's not consistent enough throughout her eras. She needs to calm things down a bit and focus more on musical re-invention rather than focussing too much on her looks. If you want to become a legend like Madonna, you need to be able to re-invent yourself through fashion AND music. Gaga is going a little bit too fast in that sense, I think.
 
Rihanna kind of is the black Madonna and I'm pretty sure her GH album will outsell the Immaculate Collection. She is a hitmaker, who has been re-inventing herself without losing focus, however her last too albums were a little bit messy in terms of releases and she doesn't seem to be too much into her musical career anymore.
 
Katy Perry is just a puppet of Dr. Luke. She's not exciting and she's clearly not innovative. She keeps playing things safe and that will in the end lead to her flopping hard. Very Britney-esque.

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good job 
you better learn her lyrics for the concert   Every single one, even the ones you don't like 
imagine if you , me and @BabyVAlex could attend the same concert.   If Alex got lost would be easy to find him   he would be the one wearing a Britney Spears T shirt
 
why so many Lanas in my post? I don't know

Lana will always have one thing over all those artists: Good lyrics. End of discussion, Lana wins. Bye bye

I think she is progressing into an incredible visual artist. Her visual world keeps getting better even if her song writing is a little stuck. Give the woman a break tho we have more than 300 Lana songs. I bet if you had 300 songs from any other artist you would find them repectitive too. Lana has more leaks then the Beatles and Rolling Stones entire discography combined. 

I'm REALLY happy that Lana worked with Dan for this record and chose a different director (can't recall his name, too lazy to look it up ). From the little we've seen, I'm positive that this will be a very successful era, with Lana winning the critics over and in turn, encouraging her NOT TO WORK WITH THE SAME PEOPLE ALL THE DAMN TIME  because this floppy seal pup hates it. 

I understand that artists often have consistent / life-long collaborators but I couldn't handle any more of the same sounds.       

It'd be especially a pity if she stuck with "the same three guys" after being exposed to all the damn genres she can so effortlessly do   

YES I'M STILL HOPING FOR A COUNTRY ALBUM A STAN CAN DREAM OK   




 

The part were I said Obama does more TV Celeb Shows then speeches from the White House didn't give you a clue?  well it's quite simple in my mind and was actually a topic of discussion back in the day in LDR BRA.  Obama has a twitter, goes on Celeb shows, invites celebs to official events. Oprah was responsible for 10% of his votes. The power of information are changing and with that the power of WHO can elect you also changes. A celeb today can influence your habits a lot more then just the clothes you buy, the perfume you use or the cream you want.
 
When you have 20 million followers in your twitter you have 20 million of instant listeners. Why Beysus the one so close to the president is so behaved? Do you think was by chance she was the one to (lip) sing the anthem? How many followers Beysus have? how many she gain after that?
 
National Anthem is a representation of US society and Politics as it is today. The fact JFK and MM was used is a way to remember you how it could have been or how it was. Look at A$AP behavior on the video, look how pretty yet a empty vassel he's character is. Look at Lana and those multiracial kids, her classy clothes, her "mascara" in contrast with her cheap ghetto behavior. 
 
Look at A$ap and his grill and chains. Is Show Business getting into politics, is the new society. The celebrity couple is the president and the first lady. Yet neither knows much.
 
Celebs always had influence but never this instantaneous, this powerful and this much. Just look at how many followers the presenter of the National News on BBC and CNN have and you will see  and compare them to any major pop singer. Wanting or not the celeb you follow is indeed one way you get informed. This is obviously talking about US. 

The nostalgia from a time Lana didn't live is a critic itself. She's not nostalgic about technology, she's not nostalgic about cars but what that time represent. I believe in the country America used to be defines a lot of her nostalgia. It's the people, culture, politic, behavior she's nostalgic about. The cars, music, clothes are just a way to represent visually the said nostalgia and moment in time. She's not a retro crazy like Dita, her nostalgia is far more deep and evolved. 

Babe Lana and her song will be the only tasteful things at that wedding also the only things that aren't for sale LOL

In Brazil has even a term and is called "saudosismo" that translated a lot into music and cinema. The movement was very strong in Salvador (the most African part of Brazil) and is very present in samba do adeus (adeus = goodbye) so is quite a black mamma africa kind of feeling lol

Honestly... I think you've put WAY more thought into this than Lana ever did.   
 
I think there are a lot of intelligent people on the forum that assign too much meaning to Lana's work and give her too much credit. Liking pretty things and being subversive is basically the whole of her artistry. 

They can go fuck themselves. LanaBoards royalty is coming for the front line.
 

trust me, i will.