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  1. lana considers paradise to be an album and that's a fair argument, and she also considers violets to be an album as well and that is NOT a fair argument and if anyone quotes this trying to start THAT argument again i will put you on my ignored users list
  2. i actually bought that edition and i have no idea what i was expecting to get truly disappointing
  3. when she does a lorde solar power then what?
  4. i have no idea what's even happening in this thread anymore
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    Ethel Cain

    me when i very much had the money to see her on tour but i had no way of getting to the closest venue
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    Charli XCX

    bookmarking immediately
  7. this is the most realistic insider info in here
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    SZA

    omg december 9th that's so soon
  9. part of my point is that people have a very narrow perception of what pop actually IS because in essence pop music is quite literally popular music - and alternative is the opposite of that (music that is NOT popular) and which music we consider what genre generally changes depending on when it was released (the beatles' earlier music is NOW considered classic rock but at the time they were considered a literal boy band) and let's go back to taylor swift - folklore is not that dissimilar to chemtrails & blue banisters and yet folklore is considered pop (which is understandable due to it's massive success) but chemtrails & blue banisters are not despite achieving a very commendable amount of success as well (not to mention lana being the #10th highest streamed woman on spotify this past year) and i DO agree that people would consider ultraviolence not pop if it was recorded by a man but i would argue that's less because the work isn't rooted in popular music and more because there seems to be a general negative attitude towards the label of "pop" especially if it's made by men - and there's more respect garnered towards the work because it's made by a man and therefore "less pop" so yes i do agree that people consider to be a pop artist because she's a woman but i think that's less because she's not pop but more because people are more reluctant to call men who make the same music "pop" and yes i would call some of the arctic monkeys' work pop i could have a very broad definition of what pop is and there isn't really a right answer to this question since music is subjective and because it's subjective it can be interpreted in many different ways so i'm not trying to disprove your point tl;dr - i consider any substantially commercially successful music with a large focus on repetition, song structure & melody to be pop music, and while i do think that women are considered pop music more often than men i think that's less due to their music not being pop but more a reluctance by society to call music made by men pop because pop is seen as an inherently negative thing in terms of artistic creativity and respectability i hope this makes sense and again i'm not trying to disprove your point or anything this is a subjective topic after all
  10. i think that people forget that lana is NOT an alternative / indie artist - she is a pop artist first and foremost and she simply has very alternative / indie sensibilities, tastes & inspirations taylor swift is very much in the same ball park where her music is inspired by country, rock & indie music and yet she's literally the biggest pop star in the world right now
  11. the princess superstar tracks - honestly while certainly not touching lana's best i find them to be incredibly memorable and they're probably some of the tracks that immediately come to mind whenever i think of her especially the lizzy era plus they slap
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    Britney Spears

    i notice some of the posts from yesterday & earlier today have been deleted
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    Charli XCX

    i thought we were getting an great album after she went to the arctic ocean but i guess not wish she would make music like lorde because her last 2 albums crash & how i'm feeling naur have been excellent
  14. they're fake - they've been circulating before
  15. violet is one of my favorite lana projects, but it's not an album and i don't know why people consider it to be an album when it's not even on streaming and yes not every album needs to be on streaming to be considered an album (that's dumb of course) but considering when it was released, who released it & the way it was promoted and it STILL not being on streaming tells me that's not really an album but an audiobook if lana considers it to be an album that's fine but that doesn't MAKE it an album - she can't retcon it to be an album whether she likes it or not (unless it gets put on streaming then we can talk)
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    Ethel Cain

    they're in the masterpost i posted a few pages back
  17. what if Terrence Loves You is my favorite Lana song, then what? and yes it's actually my favorite lana song (along with raise me up)
  18. i hope her & neil bring back the honeymoon & lust for life aesthetics for this era there is not a single bad photo of her in either of those eras and the INTERVIEWS whew
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    Troye Sivan

    that thumbnail is a bit creepy ngl but i'm looking forward to the song itself!
  20. is there an FKA tracker (weytta minute a masterpost formely known as tracker, tracker formely known as masterpost... i'm onto something here)
  21. can we just burn the basement pitchfork is in down already?
  22. has anything of interest happened since last night - true or not true
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