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The complete list of nominees is here: http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/Billboard-Music-Awards-2014:-Full-list-of-nominees/9497557 For those scratching their heads about Lorde and LDR being classed as "rock", there's no Best Pop Record category so I think they use "rock" to mean "pop". Also Artpop is nominated in the Dance/Electronic category. On the planet Vulcan, popular just means "listened to by a lot of people", wish it were the same here, but one has to come up with a more consistent labeling system to distinguish artist like Britney from artists like Queens of the Stone Age. LDR's nomination is very token (only one), so I'd be surprised if she showed up at these awards (given her Grammy's no show).

according to : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Music_Award "Unlike other awards, such as the Grammy Award, which determine nominations as a result of the highest votes received, the Billboard Music Awards finalists are based on United States year-end chart performance according to Nielsen data for sales, number of downloads and total airplay." So it seems that the result is already determined if the "as of date" is in the past. I'm kind of confused as to what being nominated means other that something like top 5 in popularity.

Just at billboard.com and BTD is still charting at 80. So I guess the logic goes, hey it's 2014 and BTD is still charting so we can nominate it. What's going to be the voting process for who wins? Anyone know?

^ Well he recently left word he's recording it! https://www.facebook.com/nightmareboybjo

I've always thought of Ride as a really good (and different) country song. Interscope missed an opportunity by not trying to nominate it for best country song. Anyway to make the post more relevant, I wonder if she'll have more of a country feel to this one. Then again, I think of Making Out (non-autotuned vers) as a really good (and different) country song, so maybe my opinion is just a bit whacked.

It's still a little selfish, but a good compromise on the "her album should be all new" vs. "her album should finish producing some leaks or do some remakes" is to just consider *anything* after 40 mins of unfamiliar material to be a much cherished gift. Also the idea of being "old" music is completely relative. I bet a lot of people right now don't know her leaked stuff, and in the future it is guaranteed that there will be people unfamiliar with her (i.e., they haven't been born yet).

Finally did my first "spoiler". And thanks for the answer to my other question below. My question is whether this is a fan compilation or actual early demo album. Does anyone know?

Liked the part about killing Bradley (for a change), but I hope she's still on good terms with Lizzy. BTW, we all know why Kill Kill has the name it does, but does anyone know why she initially wanted to call it 'The Ocean'? Anyway, I like the idea that this may not be about West Coast, as it would indicate she has many irons in the fire.

This is like those "what's your favorite/least favorite song" threads which haven't any consensus. The only way she can please everybody is to do everything, which I hope she continues doing. For me: AKA > BTD==Sirens Period > Paradise, though I think having all the different styles and periods are what makes me appreciate this artist more than others. Paradise (not including Burning Desire) is last because of length, not quality or production. I'd have rather seen a full release (or a more oversized EP) as @@neuf suggested, although Hollywood's Dead, Damn You, Never Let Me Go, and the song Paradise are the possibilities for bulking it up that occurred to me. Paradise doesn't really have a theme (that I can see) other than showcasing LDR's talents, so more variety would have helped. Also as @@neuf suggested, the unreleased/unaligned poses a problem. You could put together possible albums that would compete with her released ones. For instance, she has enough later acoustic-stlye songs for a Sirens-like reboot album, or enough bubble-gum pop songs to do an album of those, and other possibilities as well.

Future Jazz is a style term that I remembered being associated with Bobby Womack whom LDR did a song with. I googled Bobby Womack and future jazz and got this link. http://www.discogs.com/Bobby-Womack-The-Bravest-Man-In-The-Universe/master/445532 I think it's just something that she likes, and I hope it implies lots of jazzy vocals.

Wow Auerbach was really something. However, the eternal ambiguity of saying more out of the box than "her first record", which I'm assuming is BTD rather than AKA (but still remains ambiguous, and similar to LDR saying it made her forget her last record, what? Paradise or BTD?). If it's really a sonic monster (and a completed album), what possible motivation is there for releasing after the tour? It also sounds like her live performance will be affected, as the stuff in UV sounds pre-adapted to live.

My initial interpretation of @ post was a little bit stupid. However, does the akwardness LDR shows when in a cadid with Chuck have anything to do with their choice of shoes (high heels for Chuck)?

I don't know, I don't see anything abnormal about her relationship with either parent. With respect to her (clearly- more-introverted-than-dad) mom. These two interviews have some data. http://www.electronicbeats.net/en/features/interviews/lana-del-rey-interview/ has LDR discussing "Church sex scandals" with her mom. http://lanadelreyonline.com/lana-del-rey-interviewed-by-der-spiegel/ has discussion about LDR promising her mother always to be home at Christmas. Also, generally speaking, when LDR talks about discipline issues as a kid, it's always in the context of her "parents". BTW "My momma" never struck me as being autobiographical. LDR is often loose or revisionist when she talks about herself, even if she said once that her songs were 100% autobiographical on other occasions she's bound to say otherwise. This should work for her as many times as it works against her. BTW-2: Yeah a "Chuck candid" with Chuck in the photo? Hmmh, wouldn't it be more newsworthy for a paparazzi to just note and photograph the fact that Chuck was staging a photo. Rob has also tweeted (at least in my memory and I'm paraphrasing), if you pick your nose in Hollywood expect it to show up on the internet.

Her uses of the concept "National Anthem", while Americana-ish, doesn't show a fixed meaning across songs, imo. Her lyrics, like the visual aspects of her videos, might be re-used for different reasons. I've always taken "National Anthem" (her song) to be her authentically singing about the inauthenticity she was (later) accused of -- when detractors took the song to be about her values (ugh). While I'm sure she's familiar with the lifestyle (at least in her mind), I don't think she was praising the lifestyle. "Mermaid Motel" shows it as a random act of patriotism in a song that is not about patriotism; so I'm guessing it's a minor part of the song. You might also add "Oh Say Can You See" (from AKA) which samples a bit of the "The Star-Spangled Banner" lyric (its first line). Though the two songs share a lot of "star" imagery, LDR's song seems to be about her wanderlust and nocturnal habits.

Bel Air perhaps

Well coming after sentences that say what he wants to do and what he would like to do, the last sentence that supposedly says what he *did* do comes off as très bizarre. Also why not give the name of the producer, if you're going to drop the LDR bomb? Depending on who he said (Auerbach or somebody else) it would have revealed something. But in any case, I hope the collaboration is real and not another Tyler-the-creator-esque type thing, where one or several parties were just confused about what was going on.

This was the link I found (seems to work better): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/20/rufus-wainwright-crowd-funding_n_5001264.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment It's amazing, I guess, that I have never heard of him, but when I saw that he was working with LDR (even if possibly just a rumor, is Huffington reliable?), I immediately went to youtube to see what's there. After about a half dozen songs (which were all decent for the genre they represent, I think "Going to a Town" was the best, in my very initial opinion). He also bothers to write operas (in the classical sense of the term, I think) which means, even if you despise him, he has very high artistic ambition (or basically really is an artist for art's sake). He is also a standard bearer for "baroque pop", which @@lola defined usefully upstream. He kind of reminds me of Nick Drake (whom I've also only just heard about thru Barrie's cover). I don't think UV is much implicated, but I take it to be weird that he just drops the name (like a bomb) and then doesn't elaborate it.

As much as I'm warming up to @@DeadAgainst analysis, I still think Carmen is principally about LDR's alcoholism. There is also a strong alcoholism theme in the *video* for Ride as there are just too many cut shots to booze for that not to be an important idea in the personal meaning for that video (also notice LDR's character is abstinent, it's the men who partake the booze). The extension of Carmen to pop figures in general might be reasonable given LDR's (and Barrie's) fascination for tragic loss of amazing talent due to substance abuse and/or depression. Also on "Carmen represents the phenomenon of the pop music singer as objectified image" @@DeadAgainst I've always thought the song Dum Dum was the precise expression of how LDR views her own image in pop music, but it is not the average image of a female superstar. She seems a little freaked out at her effect on her audience (e.g. me AKA Dum Dum). I also like the bit of S & M there: I’m a bad jazz singer Givin’ You the finger No matter what you linger Cause you like me even when I’m mean I’m the queen In short, her images of herself as "objectified image" seem much more personally tailored to herself, to be specifically about other artists, although So Legit and Hit and Run do seem to be about objectified images in general, imo.

If you're talking about the windy-subway-like sound, he does something similar to begin Mary. Otherwise don't know what sound you mean.

LDR in her GQ interview talks about Born to Die being about lost loves with alcohol being mentioned as one of them. Here's a quote from the article: "A great deal of what I wrote on Born To Die is about these wilderness years. A lot of the time when I write about the person that I love, I feel like I'm writing about New York. And when I write about the thing that I've lost I feel like I'm writing about alcohol because that was the first love of my life. Sure, there have been people, but it's really alcohol." It is not improbable that the song Carmen refers to herself in a cautionary fashion as a possible LDR, it also has a historical flavor (as does Ride) being about a teenage alcoholic with a thrill-seeking wanderlust, a past which LDR seems to have shared. So yes, I think Carmen is LDR but only within the scope of the song. Carmen is not a personna like May or Lizzy(?), but possibly a phase of her life.

Well my interpretation assumed no aliens, so consequently I didn't see any either. But there's some choice about whether you see certain aspects of the video (e.g., meteor as spaceship, clouds/sun reflections as spaceships while ascending to heaven/mothership). I can remember in an article LDR is actually quoted as saying there are ETs in Tropico but without hearing how she said, it could have been a facetious comment about Shaun Ross's previous music-video role (Katy Perry's ET).

Well, I don't know, LDR looks really fine to me. The lopsided grins suggest quixotic, whimsical, or sphinxlike characteristics not necessarily depression or anger. One might also look at peers who attended the party for comparison purposes. So consider Taylor Swift ... http://www.becauseiamfabulous.com/2014/03/taylor-swift-wearing-oscar-de-la-renta-weinstein-company-academy-award-party/ There is a hugely different lighting choice. LDR has much less light so there are shadows under her eyes in contrast to Taylor's negative racoon image (almost). The makeup is also much more intense on Taylor and the look more CGI and Vampirific as a consequence, imo. Not trying to shade Taylor, but it all depends on what kind of a style you like.

Barrie covering Nick Drake "River Man"

So if she had more upper-register songs on Ultraviolence, her live would get better, given she had to sing more upper-register live? I'm also into the side of LDR that does alternate versions of the same song, so I often wonder what Summertime Sadness or Body Electric might sound like if sung by May Jailer.

What's cringeworthy about Leto (I guess) is the attempt to treat Kurt Cobain the same way an Elvis Impersonator treats Elvis. But I don't see that with Barrie. That's why I juxtaposed Kurt's original one. Barrie has a similar voice to Kurt, at times, but doesn't impersonate him (sonically). In fact, Kurt doesn't even always sound like Kurt in this one, does he?