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I remember seeing a video on youtube claiming this (with a speeded up dicwb), but you shouldn't automatically believe everything you see on youtube.

The UV era, to this point, doesn't seem under-done or unfulfilled, or even forgotten to me. I mean, the album recently got a boost on Billboard 200, probably from Big Eyes, where it charts at 78 (BTD at 103). The three UV videos made original statements relative to music videos in general and relative to her own past work. Finally, a UV-dominant tour still seems likely. Still... "I’m afraid this album will be forgotten. I’m always afraid good things will be forgotten, burried. Musically, I’m still looking for something different, with majestic choruses, beautiful orchestrations, a type of 50s vibe with a bit of soft grunge." This would have been a great place to bring up AKA Lizzy Grant, May Jailer, and other unreleased. She does have a tendency to forget about good things, imo.

National Public Radio, I think, has always been supportive, so it's not surprising she made their list of top picks. LDR is also mentioned in the context of being the anti-Taylor-Swift, who is also on his list of 9 picks. http://knprnews.org/post/ken-tuckers-top-9-albums-2014-plus-book

All of the stuff LDR's been accused of glamorizing (e.g. abusive relationships, and I guess with this video, rape) has been swarming in the US media lately as major news. It's eclipsed a bit by civil rights (e.g., police brutality), but it's being discussed. It's just not specifically attached to LDR as the other stuff @@Viva cites. Discussion seems to be coming more from personal experience (e.g., Lady Gaga just reported her own rape experience; as did Kesha before her). However, it is still necessary to consider what the negative effects of rape depiction in art is as this person does. http://www.xojane.com/issues/lana-del-rey-rape-video Maybe it's not "60 minutes", but tumblrs and blogs often do work effectively as discussion venues.

With all the weird references to the AKA period in the interview, including saying it was "the most enriching time as an artist", it strikes me doubly weird that no reference to a possible AKA re-release (including why there won't ever be one) is made. On a different topic: I think KJazz, is this: https://www.facebook.com/JAZZandBLUES You can get a stream of it in itunes by view menu --> more (submenu) -->internet radio (choice)-->jazz (tab) --> then search for 88.1 if you don't have "internet radio" already as a "view" menu choice I think she means it's the only thing she ever listens to on her phone. Obviously she listens to other things, otherwise it would be impossible for her to know when people were ripping off her swag.

She's mentioned Steve Mertens in 3 interviews (including this one, although it's Chuck that does the mention), so it's hard for me *not* to believe she isn't trying to collaborate again with him again, which would be fine as he's a talented guy. He does animation for music videos, but he's also in Bass Race (isn't he? This is a man/woman duo who write pretty decent songs (e.g. 11 dollar days). I'm never really sure if he is a part of Bass Race or not, because he sort of tweets about them as if they're an independent personae). Steve also has earlier songs that are interesting.

The frustration continues with AKA bashing ... and her ambivalence. So the key question for me is whether LDR is aware of the fact that the article has her "discarding" AKA in one sentence, "trashing" it in another. And yet following those references we get this: “For me, there really wasn’t reinvention. That is more of other people’s reinterpretation. I feel so much continuity between all my music and all the videos.” Which is a natural lead in to ask her why so much of her earlier stuff is commercially unreleased. for me this was an interesting reference: "...erotic dancer with a double-teardrop tattoo" This was first done in YAB video. So the reference is not *just* a Tropico in-character reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teardrop_tattoo "The teardrop tattoo or tear tattoo is a symbolic tattoo that is placed underneath the eye. The tattoo can have several meanings, including signifying the number of years spent in prison, the number of times they were raped while incarcerated,[1] the loss of a loved one or fellow gang member,[1] or the fact that the wearer has killed someone.[2]" “The girls who work in the club in the video are my friends, people I knew before I became a little more well known..." Has there been a similar statement about the bikers in Ride? finally, the "tags" at the end of the article, which allow search of other related Maxim material (I guess). If they are ordered in importance, it says something about the reading audience. "Tags:women, sexy, hot, brunette, singer, cover, magazine article"

It's interesting to compare this to other stuff out there portraying battle-of-the-sexes type scenarios. So Taylor Swift's got this socially acceptable video for 'Blank Space'. Is she doing any better than LDR in the video clip we saw (assuming what we saw is the whole video for argument's sake)? I'd like to suggest that the question can at least be debated. I mean you could say that Taylor handles herself well and gets rid of the man (kills him?) by doing a lot of ultraviolency things (for Taylor). However, had the video's scenario been occuring in real life, Taylor might have gotten the crap beaten out of her. So the debating point I'm trying out is this: you might learn that some men are assholes (and can hurt you) from Roth/Manson/Rey, but you might not learn that as well from Taylor's video. I think the people that are saying the rape scene is *not* exploitive because the rape is *realistically* portrayed are making this point. I agree with @@Blythe that you have to consider carefully just what it means when Lana Del Rey involves herself in a rape scene, and that you should not consider artists as simply having a carte blanche. You need to think about whether it's exploitation or social commentary (in addition to being art). I hope there will be more of an actual video that gets released, so one can judge this better, but the fact that Manson's rep denies this, is really upsetting and unexpected. Hopefully Eli Roth will make some kind of statement soon.

There was a lot in Tropico that you don't see in a standard music video, a lot of acting/cinematography, a lot of eclectic poetry, and not the least, an actual film score a la Dan Heath that connected the three album tracks together. If Tropico doesn't get nominated for long form video, I'd say the Grammys are anti-ambition-in-art.

Wow, sorry I wished for this. Rape seems to be a theme, yellow/purple balloons with the word Rape on them at around 2 mins. I'm wondering if the Eminem thing had anything to do with the leaking, or whether it's even a leak at all. Does Marilyn Manson have something coming out soon?

It would be interesting if it were a collabo with Danny Elfman. Interesting guy; better rock musician than film scorer, but still he took a career path that Lana's expressed interest in at times.

She's spoken nicely of Barrie in subsequent interviews. She did the dumping, so I don't think she bears him any ill will. I can't see Barrie ignoring the song either as it's a selling point. The crucial thing is that both stand behind the song musically. If so, they'd be foolish to forego the opportunity.

I would have thought a Lana song (on the Downside? wtf) would have gone with a Danny Elfman score (on the Upside). Slightly out of place? Wonder if the styles (film score/song) are really that divergent.

I don't think Eminem's reference to LDR is a joke or there is very little in the way of humor in this rap. There may be a lot of wit and art to it, but the emotionality is all wrong for humor. Rob Grant may have nailed it by referring to the rap as an anger managment issue (or an exorcism of sorts). BTW I got lyrics from youtube user: Muhammed Atas (a true hero of the Internet, imo), who left it as a comment, which will probably be buried very soon. lyrics : I just turned Slaughterhouse to a quintet Began to trend-set, murdered the friend's pet Made shit as ill as it can get went in depth Like a fucking vignette and two bars skins wet I'm already covered in sweat And I wasn't even ready to come in yet AHH, let me set this drink down Beat up a gal, start beef with her pal Probably be wild 'til I'm wrinkled and senile And "Rap God" was a freestyle Off the top of the dome piece while I was sleep on the couch And I'm freestyling now I need a towel, sweat leaks from my brow It's burning my eyes, my cerebral is foul Cause shit I'm thinking about should be illegal I need my head banned like the guy who left Cleveland Ohio And went to South Beach with his talents Scream "fuck you" on the way out and wink with a smile This whole game can eat a dick, I'm going back deep underground But right now I'm back on that bullshit and you I'm singling out Cause you're so fucking outdated you should mingle a while What the fuck is this clusterfuck of busters Bunch of Buster Douglas', motherfuckers is one hit wonders One swing and you're crowned Knocked one out the park, one catchy jingle and now You think you fucking with me cause you sold like 300 thou Bitch, I can jump without my feet ever leaving the ground Reach up, swing from a cloud with 3 thousand people around Evil and vile enough to leap in the crowd And heave a child in a sink hole on Cinco De Mayo When I'm sprinkled in pico de gallo Mardi Gras beads in a towel I just made that up I don't know much Spanish, I'm not bilingual But I'll show you a Mexican stand off Between just these two amigos Cause neither really wants to say what we're thinking out loud But I sure as fuck think I know how rebody English, no doubt Cause we're trying to kill each other, but lyrically The fuck is humility? What is a real emcee? Royce, he came up in the shit with me Never spit that hustler shit, it wasn't a fit for me Let them adjust 'til they just get the gist of me Just not giving a fuck and plus with the history Of muscular distrophy, it wasn't a mystery Why this middle finger was stuck in this upward positioning So what in the fuck is a list to me? I'm used to not being on it, I expect it out 'em Heck wit' em, I get my respect without 'em Ain't really been into diamonds since I put my first record out But I could put a chain around my second album And wear it as a neck medallion Became a millionaire, went downhill from there Became civil, office swivel chair, sterling silverware Screaming life is still unfair til I get a real career The fuck am I gonna do until then? This job is too fulfilling Two gazillion pairs of super villain shoes to fill in And a mood to kill till I plow my Coupe de Ville To some children at the food pavilion at Build-A-Bear Warrior's mind, I’m pro-hydrocodone euphoria In the drug emporium line, I'm soaring I'm pouring Vicodin four at the time ignoring the warning signs on 'em fore I go four wheeler driving Gory and violent and horrifying You surely won't find no one more appalling Than I am with this retaliatorial rhyming for Gloria Steinem But I finger her like a witness, show me a line-up I usually am abusive, but excuse me, ma'am I guess I must've threw you for a loop like toucan Sam When I said I could use the sample cause you'se a tramp But look how you react to this trigger like When I call you a bigger dyke than the Hoover Dam You playing right in Lex Luthor's hands It's such a ruthless plan, might even lose a fan But fuck it, Superman wouldn't change in a phone booth for Stan I'm a brand new being like Grand Puba's band Happy as Anderson Cooper having a tuba crammed In his pooper with lubricant...wait, that's too... I can't Since honesty is the best policy I'll give you the old college try Try to acknowledge my mistakes, probably won't qualify As a gentleman and a scholar, but it's time that I swallow pride And say that I'm sorry, sorry that I can't apologize I think of all them times I compromised my bottom lines And thought of rhymes that sodomized your daughter's minds Then I'm like dollar signs But I may fight for gay rights especially if they dyke It's more of a knockout than Janay Rice Play nice, bitch, I punch Lana Del Rey right In the face twice like Ray Rice in broad daylight In plain sight of the elevator surveillance Til her head is banged on the railing Then celebrate with the Ravens Never date an assailant that self-medicates with inhalants I meditate, but I may need a better way to escape The aggression, rage and the anger Cause them restraints on the ankles Heavyweights and an anchor with handcuffs in chains This ain't enough to contain it But I still get the same respect as Jay if I came on Stage in a fucking negligee everyday and Liz Claiborne Devastated from breakup with Kate Hudson Wait slut, your friends, what are they gonna say Cause makeup ain't gonna cover That eye that's seven-eighths of the way shut Peppersprayed with your face cut Made my bank like a lay up Off these effing skanks on the way up Oh, bitch thinks she's heaven sent It's evident that she ain't never been with seven inches Yes, I said seven, I measured it Seven inches from the floor While I'm standing on the fourth floor balcony At the Sheridan when I'm stretching it Bitch, I'm a pimp so a limp dick is all you'll ever get So if she's hesitant to get the hint I'll bet you that I get the message sent who she's messing with Hella quick when I tell a chick not to never use sex as a weapon When I step in and beat the wretched wench with a crescent wrench Existential detriments to a lesbian devil In the unpleasant stench of an estrogen level That separatists like a Chechnian rebel Impressionist with a pencil A pessimist, with his lips pressed against The edge of this Red Bull Pedal to the metal I'm rippin' this shit cause right away I'll give it to a bitch like a pedestrian, deadly as ever You see what kind of effects she has on the opposite sex when I push her flexible little sexy ass through a plate of plexiglass SHADYXV as perplexing as The last fifteen years and I'm predicting my next relapse When I spit these lyrics so don't look at me weird When I start shifting gears and shit re-smears all over Britney Spears And these little Disney queers Who use chicks for beards? Just made that up too... Oh and the Shady 2.0 We wrote it in roman numerals like they do for the Super Bowls Cause it's supposed to confuse you hoes The flows lose you as usual, so juvenile 2 year old when I go to the studio It's only music but don't be foolish though You don't know me through it ho but you can blow me to it though In my homie's Buick Been known to lose it though so if I overdo it you drove me to it When I step in the vocal booth like I'm supposed to do And I murder you on a fuckin' track like Tony Stewart In one take, if I fuck up I don't redo it You couldn't sound grown on a beat if you were moaning to it The day I don't say fuck you all, you can throw me through it Rootinest-tootinest, shootin' this from the hip With the sentiments, Eminem isn't penning them for the women I'm an enemy to them and the epitome of an inconsiderate idiot But they consider me equivalent to chlamydia They tryna get rid of me gadzooks But I stiggity stand for the fliggity flag Of the United States and the freedom, I distribute these raps through And if I catch you doing anything Hindering or prohibiting that after I give me that Tattoo of your lips on my ass I'mma be literally Pickin' up and deliberately whippin' the Statue of Liberty at you WOOOOH! Fuck it Got it somewhere in there probably

BTW, he also smears Britney Spears in the same rap. There's a link to the whole show (a couple of rappers perform) in the article below. E is in the last 7 mins or so of it (the finale). http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/11/10/eminem-shady-cxvpher-music-video-watch/ Don't know Eminem's work. However, saying "like Ray Rice", a person universally condemned in the media right now (thanks @@Viva for first pointing that out) doesn't simply imply pro-mysogny. Still there is a lot of anger (and abusive imagery) in his rap. I think it's one of those what-should-the-limits-of-art be conumdrums and I'm sure he doesn't bear LDR any ill will (I mean why should he?). She was just the person that worked the best in the lyric. He could deflect things quite a bit by just tweeting the song has its own agenda and people should not conclude he would do in real life what he raps about.

I can't really see her kissing her sister as one of the more problematic things Lana does/say. It's homoerotic, if that is the right term, but this is not supposed to be any better or worse than heteroerotic, provocation wise--at least in an enlightened society. What they end up communicating to me is that they are exceptionally close sisters.

I can remember getting into PJ Harvey just because a youtube comment compared Noir to her work. Hit and Run was the song that shouted Gaga-esque pretentions to me. Then I started to pay attention to the song's lyrics and it made more sense.

Going out on an unpopular limb, I wish LDR would be even *more* influenced by Taylor Swift. She should release the AKA album on Spotify, and she should cull her leaks/unreleased catalog and release a killer country/folk album.

If pop has to do certain things in order to be pop, I doubt LDR would like the idea of doing a straight pop album. But I see no reason she couldn't have come up with tracklistings with a lot of light pop *heavily laced* with her special subversions of it (sort of like AKA light). Anyway, while I was archiving her leaks for myself, this playlist fell out of what was being leaked at that time. It could illustrate what I mean. Lot of great songs there (and many many more left out). Noir Dynamite Fake Diamond Back to the Basics Butterflies pt. 1 Butterflies pt. 2 Break My Fall Is it Wrong? Making Out Us against the World You and Me Pinup Galore Also is Go Go Dancer and Behind Closed Doors really that conventional (or like Britney or anyone else)? They still sound like LDR, or at least I can't imagine them easily done by anybody else.

It doesn't seem they broke up vindictively though, so I'd be really surprised if she wasn't on the track (which must exist by now as the album is in the can). If it turns out like Brooklyn Baby in execution, that's fine too (hopefully she'll at least have a writing credit). Anyway, Barry announced it directly from his facebook, which makes it different from other rumors that might be out and about right now (e.g., Kanye West one).

I don't think there's anything wrong about being curious about this, but if you're going to take a few lines out of a few songs as evidence for something there is a danger of concluding too much from too little. She also talks a lot about drinking in her songs, so BDSM may be something like that? I think she likes obsessive-love related themes (I prefer the term obsessive to submissive), and her highly emotional style makes her seem a bit more subversive (aka authentic) than average. She may have been involved with badass males as one gets involved with drugs (also in her lyrics). However, she is also ambivalent about male badasses (e.g. Butterflies pt. 1 and 2) and likes to play a badass herself (Kinda out of luck, serial killer, playing dangerous, she's not me). The badasses in Ride where remarkably not depicted as such. She emotes feministically (Scarface, Noir), and while she wants to be "one of those girls" in MariIyn Monroe, she also knows she has us totally enthralled (in Dum Dum, where we linger even though she's mean). I just don't see her art as too heavily fixated on any *one kind* of obsessiveness. As for her real life? Neither Barrie nor Francesco give me BDSM vibes, and neither does LDR, tbh, when she tweets stuff like the Ertha Kitt video on relationships and compromises. As for the "Boudoir Bible" that was referenced as being in Francessco's apt (RollingStone) @@ilovetati & @ mentioned, here's a youtube advert/video for it: There is some BDSM referenced in the diagrams, but the goal emphasized is enhancing pleasure and not hurting the partner.

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, idk. I want the Marilyn Manson, Eli Roth, LDR collabo video to be released from its vault. Maybe it'll be the new video promised this week. Maybe it's even a Christmas video.

Well at least there is a controversy in people's mind about UV (one I don't understand, but I see the argument, abandonment == lack of promotion). However, AKA doesn't have a controversy and remains an enigma (one I don't understand). I'm wondering if she wouldn't have had as much "authenticity" woes, if she would have just left that on iTunes and gone ahead with BTD.

UV sold well relative to other artists whom I like enough to buy, like St. Vincent, Blondie, and Kimbra. I'm sure these artists, who also had releases about the time of UV, would have liked to have sold as well as UV did. Another interesting comparison is Arcade Fire's Reflektor, which sold very well, but I think UV exceeded it salewise (at this relative point). Finally, Born to Die did better than UV (at this relative point). The data for these statements are based on: http://www.mediatraffic.de/previous2.htm where I've been casually tracking numbers. So it's all relative to who you want to compare her to as to how well she's doing, but I don't think LDR wants to become big in the Taylor sense. I think she just wants the kind of acceptance Arcade Fire has. I'm sure the label wants her to go further ($$$), and the cancellations are interesting as they seem mostly promos and not concerts proper. So they might reflect a kind of warring between LDR and her label or maybe she just changed priorities (both better scenarios than health issues, imo). UV also had lots of plot twists and turns (West Coast, the lead single, was originally not going to be on it, according to one interview I remember), and lots of random factors (leaks, Auerbach, breaking up with Barrie). Despite this and minimal (but ingenious?) promotion, I think UV's worth stanning for as much as the other artists, I mentioned, at least, if you're interested in stanning for a more diversified pop. I also can't help but use the closing paragraph of the NYTimes review of Taylor's "1989" to sum up (rather eerily, imo) what I think about LDR's UV (I'll substitute LDR for TS, of course). "But by making pop with almost no contemporary references, LDR is aiming somewhere even higher, a mode of timelessness that few true pop stars — aside from, say, Adele, who has a vocal gift that demands such an approach — even bother aspiring to. Everyone else striving to sound like now will have to shift gears once the now sound changes. But not LDR, who’s waging, and winning [?], a new war, one she’d never admit to fighting." http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/26/arts/music/taylor-swift-1989-new-album-review.html?_r=0 Interestingly, the LAtimes was less convinced by "1989", and look who's in LA and who's in NY? Maybe "Hit and Run" should be the next single for an extended UV?

I understand fans being disappointed that she doesn't tour where they are, but I don't know if 3 videos and some touring with UV material is a token gesture. However, it all depends on whether she's using her down time now to produce something new, or is going to be absorbed in another depressive cycle. I'd also be in it for her to release more of her older stuff. Now that Taylor's gone full pop, maybe she should dust off May Jailer? And she could still do new stuff at the same time, muse willing.