Angel Forever

I will try. But idk, it's okay to do this? I need to watch the doc first. Which point between Lana and The Source Family is the most important to us?
If you (@@Lanakai) will do it, that's better. You are more into the story. I also agree, step by step.

She added me as a friend last night. I'm working on it but it might take a while. I have a lot of respect for this woman so I don't want to rush it.

leaKer

The concept of Tropico, the loss of innocence and the idea of Paradise Lost, Garden of Eden transformed into the Garden of Evil (...) is a reference to John Milton's poem "Paradise Lost". As Anthony Mandler said about the title: “The word kind of lends itself to a paradise and a paradise lost. Lana had always had it in her head as the title.”

I never heard of this illegal electronics business!   I've always thought it was about drugs and stuff...

Anthony Burgess: Ultraviolence (Ultraviolence)
 
Belinda Carlisle: Heaven is a place on earth (Video Games)
 
Beverly Donofrio: (Riding) // Driving in Cars with Boys (Driving in Cars with Boys)
 
Bruce Springsteen: I'm on fire (Summertime Sadness, Body Electric)
 
Bryan Adams: We were young and wild and free // You're young, you're wild, you're free (Cruel World)
 
Charles R. Cross (Kurt Cobain biography): Heavier Than Heaven // Heavier than heavenly (On Our Way)
 
Cyndi Lauper: Girls just wanna have fun (Driving in Cars with Boys)
 
Elvis: One for the money, two for the show (Million Dollar Man)
 
Ernest Hemingway: The sun also rises (Money, Power, Glory)
 
Funkadelic/Kanye West: Feet don't fail me now (Born to Die)
 
Gilbert Ryle: The ghost in (the) // your machine (She's Not Me)
 
Gods and Monsters (Jeff Buckley's first band): Gods and Monsters (Gods and Monsters)
 
Green Day: On the Boulevard of Broken Dreams (Beautiful Player)
 
Guns N´Roses: Guns and roses (Guns and Roses)
 
Guns N' Roses: Sweet child of mine (Bel Air)
 

John Derek (Knock on Any Door) + True Romance: Live fast, die young and have a good-looking corpse // live fast, die young, leave a beautiful corpse (Driving in Cars with Boys)
 
John Newton: I once was lost, but now am found, was blind, but now I see // Lost but now I am found, I can see but once I was blind (Born to Die)
 
Lou Reed: Take a walk on the wild side (Born to Die)
 
Marilyn Monroe: Diamonds are a girl's best friend //  Diamonds are my bestest friends  (The Body Electric)
 
Nabokov: Light of my life, fire of my loins (Off to the Races)
 
Nabokov: A paradise whose skies were the color of hell-flames // Paradise is a hell-coloured flame sky (Angels Forever, Forever Angels)
 
Nabokov: Lolita (Lolita)
 
New Radicals: You’ve got the music in you (Westcoast)
 
Nietzsche: God's dead (Gods and Monsters)
 
Nirvana: Come as you are (Oh Say Can You See)

 
Oscar Wilde: Life imitates art (Gods and Monsters)
 
Phil Collins: I can feel it coming in the air tonight (Guns and Roses)
 
Samuel Johnson: He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man // Man who makes a beast out of himself got nothing to lose (Tired of Singing the Blues)
 
Tennessee Williams: Relying on the kindness of strangers (Carmen)
 
The Beatles: (Lucy's) // Harvey's in the sky with diamonds (Cola)
 
The Crystals: He hit me and it felt like a kiss (Ultraviolence)
 
The Pogues: Queen of New York City (Old Money)
 
T-Rex: Children of the bad revolution (Children of the Bad Revolution)
 
The Who: Talking about my generation (Brooklyn Baby)
 
To Have and Have Not: You know how to whistle, don't you, Steve? You just put your lips together and blow //  You know how to whistle, don't 'cha? Just put your lips together and blow (Put Your Lips Together)
 
Tom Petty: Honey put on that party dress (American)
 
Whitman: I sing the body electric (I Sing the Body Electric)
 
Whitney Houston: Run to you (Old Money)
 
Whitney Houston: Queen of the night (Go Go Dancer)
 
Woodkid: Run, boy run (Money, Power, Glory)
 
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Chet Baker: Let's Get Lost (West Coast video)
 
Erik Satie: Gymnopedie no 3 at the end of the Carmen video

smh at me reading this intersexuality

he's the leaker

I google mapped it and Santa Clarita is about 40 minutes from Nichols Canyon (where the family's second house was located) and Loz Feliz (the first one). 
 
It's also definitely at Nichols Cayon as you can see the trees in the upper left corner of this picture here:
 

 
I'm betting those trees and that look is something popular for landscaping in the LA area lol Oh well...

So, I was doing a LOT of research (lmao) and all I could discover is that the video was recorded in Santa Clarita, CA, nothing else 
There's a waterfall in the beggining, maybe some canyon. Eternal Valley Memorial Park and the William S. Hart Museum in Santa Clarita have those hedges trees, but it's not the right place. In the video she stands in front of a ornamented gate, maybe some mansion/museum?
 
And yes, she sings those verses from FMWUTTT in UV.

I was searching about the SS music video and found out it was set on Santa Clarita, CA. I've searched about the place and found nothing interesting. It might be weird to stuck on this place with the trees, but i was watching the Tropico teasers and one of them show Lana like in the SS video, of course some cuts from the video... About these line of FMWUTTT, you done very well by noticing this! It really fits! Sorry if i don't quote you guys or anything else, I'm always on the mobile mode of the forum

Don't send it back! Factory errors double the price on hard to find/limited/ special edition items

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Original:

 
 
UV Booklet:
 
 
 
Might be farfetched, but there's something going on with those damn long trees and that filter. On other hand, I do recall seeing them in the music video for "Summeritme Sadness" as well... But that's a thing I've been picking up a lot lately. Another visual aesthetic move? Or just my paranoia? 

I thought the same.
 
All those theories about Lana singing about old sects and occultism are so creepy, but they make sense. I had never heard of the Source Family before. It was interesting to read about it, tho.

From IMDB: The Source Family was a radical experiment in '70s utopian living. Their outlandish style, popular health food restaurant, rock band, and beautiful women made them the darlings of Hollywood’s Sunset Strip; but their outsider ideals and the unconventional behavior of their spiritual leader, Father Yod, caused controversy with local authorities.

Before we journey down the rabbit hole that is the Source Family, their leader Father Yod and the influence all of this may have had on Lana Del Rey and her album Ultraviolence, here is some background information of who they were and what they did:
 





There are also many excellent articles on Jim Baker, Father Yod and the Family available online. While I will be linking some of them here as references, I will mostly be focusing on the Family and their own personal interpretations of what was going on during the time they were active as I believe this is where Lana gathered most of her inspiration from. There are a lot of negative articles written about what actually was going on behind closed doors at the Family homes and while I'm sure some may be accurate, and will lend support to some theories, the writers of the articles were not a part of the Family and did not experience first hand what went on. While most former Family members do have criticism toward Jim Baker, the man, they speak very highly of Father Yod as their Earthly Spiritual Father, enough so that I don't doubt they would embellish. I recommend reading all evidence and articles with a grain of salt as all of it is personal anecdotes and there is no solid facts to back up any claims made.
I encourage every member of Lana Boards to dig in and discover any other pieces of evidence you may find regarding this topic. I will add to this post as new evidence is found with credit to the finder!

Here is the original post that I made in the Ultraviolence lyrics thread so please have a look at that for an idea of what started all of this:

http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/4684-ultraviolence/?p=198053

So hopefully now you have an idea of the Family, we'll jump into the evidence we have. Some of it will be stuff that I and other users have already posted on the UV thread, some will be new. Please note, this section will be updated as more info is discovered.

The Source Family and their Influence on Ultraviolence

General Evidence



Lyrical Evidence
While I believe some songs on UV are inspired by the Source Family, I don't think that all songs were inspired by them. So you won't see Old Money on this list for example, as it is clearly written for the Great Gatsby, inspired by the character of Daisy and written as an epilogue to Lana's Young and Beautiful.

I also believe Lana is inspired from many different things and she weaves them into her own story, either by becoming who she is writing about or imagining herself in a similar situation. She has said before that is in the habit of writing about several things in a song and tying them all together. For example, Video Games being about two different men, etc. So while some lyrics fit the Source theory, others will not as they are probably influenced either by her life or something else.

Cruel World



Ultraviolence



Shades of Cool




Brooklyn Baby



Aesthetic Evidence
This section is about the pictures used for Ultraviolence vs pictures from The Source Family Archives as well as the soundscape Dan Auerbach and Lana came up with. Lana had stated that her new take on the UV album was "Unlistenable" with many different sounds, tempo changes, etc. Some of the Ya Ho Wha recordings sound very similar to how Lana re-did UV with the layered sounds, experimental vocals and tempo changes.

Sound



Visuals



As I stated above I will continue updating this post with more evidence as I find it. Please feel free to post any similarities you might find and I will happily add it with credit to you!

I always hear invincible too.

White palms, baking powder on the stove
 
COCAINE

the predictions of similarity to Kill Kill weren't 2 far from the truth tbh

"Flipside" really feels like the proper ending for Ultraviolence. Moar Stranathan plz.

I was very meticulous choosing the pics actually! 

ULTRAVIOLENCE ALBUM COVERS

 

All covers have the same Neil Krug effect, that LQ vintage effect. Hope you like them as I do though some titles are not aligned in the center correctly but I think they look very good.

I had to post links because posting the images would be a tough thing to do and it's easier for me and for you to see them.


 

ULTRAVIOLENCE 

 

In the style of Neil Krug

 

OH MY GOD
PLEASE TELL ME U R 10YO
 
WHEN SHE CLOSE HER EYES = WHEN SHE GOES TO SLEEP
 
Every time I close my eyes
It's like a dark paradise
No one compares to you
But there's no you,
Except in my dreams tonight,
 
Oh oh oh oh, ha ha ha ha
I don't wanna wake up from this tonight
Oh oh oh oh, ha ha ha ha
I don't wanna wake up from this tonight
SHE EVEN REPEATED IT TWICE IN CASE THAT U MORONS WON'T UNDERSTAND
There's no relief,
I see you in my sleep
 
THESE LYRICS ARE NOT EVEN THAT DEEP!
DID U LISTEN SONG AT ALL?

born to die is what got me into lana so ofc I'm going to pick born to die. i truly can't compare the two because they are different yet are still the same. UV is more lizzy grant-esque and I love everything about the album I just can't go against btd when I can relate to so much of it.