Wilde_child

i get that she was 16, but the suicidal 16th birthday party kind of discredits what she said to lana mentioning dying young is glamorizing death and making it seem 'cool' but having a suicide themed party isn't?

K I'm sorry but nobody asks for harassment by giving an opinion. Twitter is a public website and people are allowed to give their opinion there.
 
God some of you fucking make me sick.

While this should not be taken too far away from the actual topic (although it is part of the discussion since other people are gettin involved in this), I really don't get her need to comment on this. She really tries too hard to put herself way apart from Lana and hell, she is 17. She has no clue where she will be in 10 or 12 years. It's not her business. Full stop.

I completely understand and agree with your points. whilst I don't think Lana should 'hide' her opinions or even lie about them, I think Lana definitely needs to think about what she says before she says it. she needs to think about HOW she is expressing her opinion and HOW it can be seen by other people. there's absolutely nothing wrong with Lana informing us of her views (I encourage it, if anything), but unfortunately the media is a manipulative force that appears near-determined to flatten her into the ground, as this incident proves.

I agree, but only to a point; Lana is not the only artist under any trade, be it music, literature, etc., that has established a particular method and ideal in her craft that's in her element. And as someone in the arts myself, I do not think anyone should have to apologize or compromise their art for the sake of the general public who can easily set their attention on artists that cater to their sensitivities. I do not think there's anything wrong with what Lana said. Controversial? Yes. Wrong? I think it's really unfair to invalidate someone's feelings just because they're otherwise not understood by everyone else. Yes, she should probably exercise better self-monitoring skills and develop a more "less-means-more" approach to answering questions in her interviews, but let's not disregard that Lana has always been generally cryptic and vague, and it's kind of unfair that when she does speak with candor, it turns into a hen-pecking session. And if she does keep it vague, she gets criticized for "lack of authenticity." She's damned if she does, damned if she doesn't, and that really sucks. And I'd have the same gripe about it if it was another artist.
 
My only issue with Frances is that she contradicted herself by throwing a suicide-themed Sweet 16, and on top of that, wanted her attendees to get involved in a Who-Looks-The-Most-Dead contest. It may have been her father, but she's cut from the same cloth that she's trying to steam-clean Lana for supposedly being in. That's my only problem. Other than that, I respect her feelings about it.
 
Sky, I don't follow or really listen to, but her statement alone only asserts my point that this isn't about Lana, so if they want to vocalize their feelings, they should probably be more involved with showing depressed/suicidal fans resources that could save their lives such as the Suicide Hotline and others. And I mean this in the most casual way possible, I'm not trying to undermine anyone here.

I don't get people who get excited about relationships ending. It's never fun, regardless of who it is or if it is for the better.

Her and Dan Auerbach, baby. Duet album. Think about it.
 
And ick to all the James Franco...bleh.

Ultraviolence really is better live than the studio version...

it truely is.

Don't let J Franco get near Lana!! Please God noooooo!!

Don't let J Franco get near Lana!! Please God noooooo!!

Don't let J Franco get near Lana!! Please God noooooo!!

BtD was for radio, Paradise was for the gods and the nine, and UV was for critics. 
 

The BTD version of 'Lolita' makes me feel like I'm going insane. I don't even know if I like it or not, but every time I hear it, it completely changes how I'm feeling, in a sniffing glue sort of way.
 
I like the demo of Dark Paradise more than the album version, but think the verses should be in a different song than the chorus.
 
I would have been just as happy if Emil only used the Rick James sample on one song, instead of on every song.

There are so many...
 
But for now I'll just add that I see nothing wrong with the studio version of Body Electric or the Paradise version of Yayo.

i didn't see anything wrong with her snl performance

Tbh I was so excited when I heard that Lana would call her new album Ultraviolence because I ADORE A Clockwork Orange (if it's possible to adore a movie like that but you get the point) and it would be my fave singer + my fave movie = BEST FUCKING ALBUM. I was already seeing Lana go full droogie on the cover and in the songs.
Then I've listened to West Coast, saw the cover art and GOD, was I disappointed. I love the album, it's not that it makes it worse - but I was hoping for more Clockwork Orange references than only the title.
 
(Don't know if 'unpopular opinion' or only 'no one gives a fuck about that except me'.)

Don't let J Franco get near Lana!! Please God noooooo!!

I tthought West Coast was about the record executive or whatever .. because you know he was the love of her life.
Shades of Cool could be about Barrie.... i'm sad they arent together anymore

Lana is love, Lana is life

Fuck, I go to eat a cheeseburger and everyone else beats me to it.

But speaking of "glamorizing death," I do wonder how Frances' Suicidal 16th turned out!

Because, you know, glamorizing suicide has its conditions, such as using it as a contest for your friends to win an iPod Touch and a gift certificate to Amoeba.

I get where Frances is coming from, but this really changed my opinion about her intentions with vocalizing her "feelings" about it, especially since Lana doesn't need to be sorry for anything she does that's challenged by an exercise of hypocrisy.

The comments she made in the guardian were misconstrued to be like
I WISH I WAS DEAD LIKE KURT AND AMY LOL
i dont think she meant it like that at all

True. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they usually stink. Music is Lana's art form, so she owes no one an explanation.

This is the problem with social media today, people feel the urge to share their premature & half-processed thoughts.
 
Just keep them to yourself. Fuck.

This is all so blown out of proportion already.
Ridiculous.