Wilde_child

Don't worry, Barrie. Taylor Swift will be calling you asking you to star in a knock-off of a Lana video before you know it. And of course Lana will ask you to open for her while she's dating Jimmy Gnecco.

I mean, Lana was probably sick of not being the Depressed Sadcore-ee in the relationship

I kind of knew they were having problems around May...also anyone else notice that she hasn't been wearing that "engagement" ring for the last few weeks? If you listen to the lyrics of the songs in UV, I would imagine that some of those lyrics would contribute to some problems in their relationship. None of us know for sure who those songs are about, but if she was singing about her current state of mind and relationship, they had more than a few problems. 
 
I honestly think she's with that Francessco guy....him driving her car to Chateau marmont was no accident. She knows theres paparazzis there, so why take hi there if she didn't want to get caught? Also did anyone else catch her fb post this morning that was a photo of her holding roses and the caption, "thank you for my beautiful flowers. x" I have a strong suspicion that could be directed towards some man...
 
I really did like her and Barrie together and it's sort of sad to see that they've had problems. I feel for both of them and hope they both go on to either reconcile or find someone who makes them happy. 

I knew that the fact that Barrie left Kassidy (which I'm sure he ending being super bitter about later) was going to end up as a disaster for their relationship. Having to give up his friends/family, his band (of how many years.. .   )  & his life basically and move to LA all for Lana,  like you know he'd probably throw that in her face if they ever argued about something, talking about how much he's sacrificed for her etc. There's a lot of other shit that probably also played a part in their breakup but I'm sure this had to be one of the reasons. (also I don't really think Barrie liked the general hollywood/LA lifestyle, I can see him talking shit to Lana about how vapid and shallow ppl are in HW and how his 'old & authentic soul' just cannot cope with living there)
 
& they were actually engaged (but I guess she's denying it now that they broke up) so I'm a bit sorry to see this end...especially since it seems like they ended things on a bitter note.  But if he wasn't good for her then I'm glad this is over and I really hope she does not go back to him. You can do better than these type of lowlife, leechy and toxic men that bring you down Lana. Barrie seemed nice but we never really knew him so who knows what was under that exterior. I almost feel like she was too nice to end this sooner (didn't she say something about staying with the same stylists, mangers etc out of comfort so maybe it also applied to her bf)
 

Aw
I hope she doing well besides that.

Don't let J Franco get near Lana!! Please God noooooo!!

quick translation for you guys:
 
 

Hum that's kinda sad but at least it's for the best I guess. Just don't want Lana to fall for that pretentious arty pedophile aka James Dean Franco tbh.
 
(And now Barrie's dick is free    )

I've always defended their relationship but thb I think it's better when they're going separate ways now. Lana struggles with her own emotions and moods and a boyfriend like Barrie who lives in his own, dark world and might be even depressive doesn't sound like a good influence on her health.
 
I really hope they don't get together again. Barrie should get some help from an expert and find a girlfriend who is able to cheer him up and Lana should finally grab a hot, rich and famous celebrity who doesn't look like he was hidden in the cellar for years 
 
imagine her and John Mayer together
 

 
he has tattos.
he plays guitar like God.
he sings.
he writes fantastic poetic songs.
he has got the music in him.
he is older than her.
he covered Video Games when everybody else in the USA hated her.
he can relate to problems with interviewers and the media.
he isn't obsessed with fame.
--> he is perfect for her 

sometimes I really think you're Barrie

Are we sure about that? Well Barrie went to Glasgow for a family wedding at the end of April that's why Lana was always alone in the photos, and hasn't returned to USA yet but that makes sense since Lana was on a tour so they couldn't spend much time together. Also when travelling to the other side of the world it's common to spend about a month there especially when you are going home there's a lot of people you want to see. Also Barrie travelled to London the same day as Lana arrived in London. Why would he go if they had broke up? Also they both have profile pictures together on facebook, when you broke up with someone you delete the photos you don't keep them as profile photos! Also about Brooklyn baby, Scottie Diablow who is Lana's friend and Barrie's manager, wrote in his facebook that Barrie does the backup vocals. Who said it's not Barrie?

On a side note, I find it interesting how the album starts off with the lyrics "Shared my body and my mind with you" and ends with "Will spend her life alone, Alone" (from "The Other Woman" the way she envisioned it.) 

Gives some insight as to why she cancelled so many of her performances as of late.
I mean when a long relationship ends it's hard to deal with, and then she'd have to also manage freaking the fuck out because of performing and being afraid of being scrutinized again. It could be a bit much.
What bad timing though

I'm surprised, tbh. I read it's not him singing in the end of Brooklyn Baby, though they did some collabs writing this album. She always said how they match each other, talking about their dead icons. I hope Lana is happy.

She continues: "He's a wonderful person but there are several things he has to clear/handle. I don't want to explain it in more detail. That weighed heavily on our relationship, I didn't feel free anymore. Let's see how it'll go on..."

Don't let J Franco get near Lana!! Please God noooooo!!

he needs to get with the program tho. this is Ultraviolence honey. enough with the Ride already.

Now I know why James has been posting Lana stuff on twitter and Instagram lmao.....
 
"Obsessing" over her.
 
Also the guy in "pretty little liars" is dating chuck and he is friend with James so... They know each other.

I'm glad tbh. Barrie is obviously a great guy and loved her before she was famous but I think he was really bringing her down. It must be so difficult to be in a relationship with somebody who seems to be so dark. And lbr he didn't really inspire Lana that much as she continues to sing about other guys. next album could be done sooner than we think .
 
The clues were there, "my boyfriend's in a band". Barrie went solo. Is Jimmy still in Ours?

this leaves Barrie in a pretty shitty position, he shouldnt have left Kassidy :/
 
 
and i think it would be cool if she went out with James Franco but hes a really funny guy and well lana doesnt seem to have that great of a sense of humour so realistically they wouldnt work imo

But seriously (and late in the discussion), I am enjoying reading the fame vs Art debate. You all are very articulate and knowing.
If I may offer a biased opinion, I tend to believe that, at times Lana seems to pursue the epicurean ideal ("just an ordinary girl", "opulence is the end", simple things in life) but she also displays a decadent imagery...
I would dare to say the lady contradicts herself and might be aware of that.
 
As O. Wilde once wrote: "The well-bred contradict other people. The wise contradict themselves."
I quite like that!

Maybe Lana should start to answer fan questions on her websites once in a while instead of doing interviews with the press that obviously can't / don't want to see anything good in her & her music and never will ... as to the rest, can we get over that bullshit G. interview at last? We all know how the media work and what they are able to just to sell their papers and to get readers ... I mean, today it's Lana, tomorrow they will be already talking about Clooney's wedding.  And Lana is still so young and there's still so much to learn ...

The more I think about her, the less I think of her as being depressed, but of just not knowing and therefore changing her mind frequently, but only about certain things. So in a lot of interviews she says she's happy, but in others she says she's not. This is just another aspect of "I'm going to re-release AKA; I'm not going to release AKA" ;  "The album (UV) is finished; let's redo the album"; "I derive strength from my audiences; I feel guilty that I don't care as much as my audiences". "I'm engaged; "we're friends". I'm tempted to view the whole leaks/unreleased phenomenon in similar terms. I mean why bother to have a "final version" of Behind Closed Doors, if you're not going to release it? She must have changed her mind. While I think she has stable core principles or values (e.g. family, human rights, artistic aesthetics), the phrase "strange weather" would seem to apply as much to herself as anyone she has ever sung about.
 
There is also the question of balance and bias. If she says the right thing (such as the mention of her community outreach interest in the Guardian interview) it will be buried in the print; if she says the wrong thing it will be a headline. I don't think it's a given that journalists are obligated to use the most shocking sound bite as the "news", especially if other articles contradict it (i.e., doesn't she say in an earlier interview dead artists aren't very useful? Doesn't she also like living artists?). From what I can tell, the interviewer's attempts to get her to rebut or even clarify her answer were lame. Instead of asking her about family or her art for reasons to go on in the land of the living, he asks her about live shows and adoring (if sometimes annoying) fans. But we all know she's often uncomfortable with performing. If the interviewer had said something like, "well, but what if I were to use 'I wish I were dead already' as the title for this interview? Would that be accurate?", do we believe LDR would have simply said yes, or would she have back pedaled furiously? If you're going to treat the headline as "news" and not just LDR saying something stupid, then that's the kind of probing you have to do. But the interviewer clearly quit while he was ahead (at least in the 2 min excerpt I heard).

This thread is doing to my head what listening to 'Lolita' does. I gotta go and lie down.

She is very nervous about how Ultraviolence will be recieved, Has no one of you felt so nervous before doing something very important, like an exam or playing a football match, that you almost wished you were dead.  Or the suspense of waiting for the result of a HIV test. Some senior members on this board has always struck me as coldly intellectual. Mocking the highly emotianal Lana from their high horses. Well, she wouldn't be who she is or create the wonderful things she does if she was like you.