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  1. lili liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana interview with The Age, May 10, 2014   
    Hello everybody, I found an interesting and recent  interview with Lana. If this was posted on LB before I ask the mods to delete this topic. I really enjoyed this interview. Discuss
     
     
    Few pop singers divide audiences like Lana Del Rey. Just what is it about the sweet-voiced, doe-eyed chanteuse that attracts such extreme opinions?
     
    When I meet Lana Del Rey at a cavernous rehearsal studio in Hollywood, the 27-year-old singer is dressed all in denim, wearing torn blue jeans and a western-style denim shirt with canvas sneakers. Del Rey has just finished a day of rehearsal for her upcoming tour, which begins in Las Vegas and takes her across the US and Europe. Her hair is dyed a dark reddish-brown, pulled back from her face, and she pulls absent-mindedly at long strands of it as she speaks. Her face is free of make-up, and her pale skin has an enviably healthy glow, even under the dreary light of the rehearsal space.
     
     
    The overall dressed-down effect is offset by a huge set of false eyelashes, left on from a photo shoot with a French magazine the previous day. This contrast seems somehow of a piece with the disjunctions that define her style, a mix of innocence and artfulness, childish naivete and knowing glamour which she's described as "gangster Nancy Sinatra" or "Lolita got lost in the 'hood".
    I've showed up ready to believe the rumours (which she denies) about the plastic surgery that produced her remarkable pout, but she looks convincingly natural. She has a model's face, more subdued in life than on film, where the camera throws her clearly defined features into sharp, exaggerated relief. The standout feature is not her much-discussed lips but her big, kohl-lined eyes, with their unusual dark-forest-green colour.
     
     
    Del Rey speaks in a low-pitched voice with an upstate New York inflection, and talks in hesitant, wandering trains of thought. She didn't do press for two and a half years, she says, exhausted by what she saw as persistent misrepresentations of herself and her story. "Read everything and assume the opposite, then you'll really know who I am." She gives a thin smile. "It really doesn't matter what I say." Tattooed on the side of one hand is the word "Paradise" - a recurring idea in her work - on the other, "Trust no one".
    Lana Del Rey's sharp rise to fame began in mid-2011, when her melancholic love song Video Games attracted millions of views on YouTube in a matter of weeks after she posted it. The self-produced video mashed together nostalgic archival film with other found footage and webcam film of Del Rey, with her big eyes and sad, beautiful, blank face evoking an updated Valley of the Dolls.
    She was born Elizabeth Grant, and had performed for years as Lizzy Grant, playing small venues and open-mike nights in New York; she recorded an album with producer David Kahne (Paul McCartney, the Strokes, New Order), released in 2009, which didn't sell. Titled Lana Del Ray aka Lizzy Grant, it shows her beginning to experiment with the artistic persona that she brought to fruition a couple of years later, with the release of three tracks on YouTube that consolidated her moody, retro pop sound and distinctive visual style: Diet Mountain Dew, Blue Jeans and Video Games. "I didn't have any offers," Del Rey tells me, "and then I got all the offers on one day - on the day Video Games was played on the radio."
     
     
    She'd already been in conversation with John Ehmann at record label Interscope, who had championed her since seeing the video for Diet Mountain Dew on YouTube well before the huge success of Video Games, and she signed a joint recording deal with Interscope, Polydor and Stranger. Her subsequent album, Born to Die, debuted at No. 2 on the Billboard charts in February 2012.
    It is common for performers to change names and play with personas - one has only to think of Bob Dylan (born Robert Zimmerman), David Bowie's many incarnations, or more recently, Lady Gaga. But something about Lana Del Rey's self-presentation, straddling pop accessibility and indie artistic aspirations, struck a nerve, and she was quickly accused of being a fake, a manufactured pop product, with no authentic agency of her own. Somehow it was impossible to believe that this young, preternaturally beautiful woman could actually be "in the driver's seat", as Ehmann describes her role. "The vision is all hers."
     
     
    Ehmann plays me some of the tracks from Del Rey's new album Ultraviolence, out later this year, at his Santa Monica office, where a large picture of Del Rey seated on a throne, flanked by tigers, hangs over his door (it's a still from the video for Born to Die.) He scoffs at the widely held belief that Del Rey's contract was arranged and bankrolled by her father, Robert Grant. "The first time I met or spoke to her father was roughly six months after I signed her, at one of her first shows," he tells me.
     
     
    The criticism reached new levels of intensity after Del Rey's appearance on Saturday Night Live in January 2012, with clips of her clumsy performance circulating widely online. No other performer inspires a comparable level of animosity. Feminist website Jezebel asks, "Why do you hate Lana Del Rey? I do not know why I hate Lana Del Rey." In a carnival of schadenfreude, the website Buzzfeed compiled "Twenty-six Meanest Quotes from Reviews of Lana Del Rey". Sites on Tumblr such as I Hate Lana Del Rey subscribe openly to the idea that the singer's success is due to canny promotion of her sex appeal: "Cash comes quick when looks can kill," explains the heading of another Del Rey "troll" blog.
     
     
    "None of it ever seemed to make any sense," Del Rey says, reflecting on the intensity of her reception, halting between words. "I'm not a provocateur. I love to write. The written word is one of the last forms of magic we have. I love rhyming and writing. For years my focus was on building a beautiful visual world and beautiful sonic world and yeah, having such a strong reaction was ... surprising? I don't know."
     
     
    She went through a painful period of writer's block while touring after the release of Born to Die, "trying to write things that I thought would be more accessible," and for a while she doubted whether she would release another record. "It's this feeling that comes over you, like falling in love," she says of the inspiration to write. "You have to get that sensation."
    That feeling returned when she met Dan Auerbach, of rock group the Black Keys, who wound up producing her new album. Del Rey had been feeling for a while that there was something missing from her sound, "a fuzzy guitar tone that I couldn't bring on my own". Upon meeting Dan, she thought, "Maybe this is my guy!"
     
     
    The album has taken a while to put together - two and a half years - due to Del Rey's hands-on approach. "I'm involved in the process, from the mixing to the mastering. Every single part of it has to be right."
    Del Rey was born in New York in 1986, and grew up in Lake Placid, a small town on the northern edge of upstate New York. "It's the coldest spot in the nation," she says. "It's very insular, very quiet. There were no main stores, we didn't have TV." Her parents, Robert and Pat Grant, had abandoned lucrative careers in advertising in New York City; Robert became a real estate agent and later an internet entrepreneur, while Pat became a schoolteacher. Del Rey was the eldest of three siblings, and her younger brother and sister, Charlie and Caroline, now share a house with her in LA. Caroline, an accomplished photographer, is responsible for many of Del Rey's most well-known images and cover art.
     
     
    Lake Placid was a tough place to be a teenager with artistic ambitions, Del Rey remembers. "I really wanted to be a singer. It was hard because ..." She trails off and starts again. "I don't like to say anything bad about it because it's my home, but I love cities. Living in the Bronx was heaven. I lived in New Jersey, I lived in Brooklyn, and that was when I really came home."
    By the time she was 15, she says, she'd started acting up. "I was misdirecting my energy. I started going out all the time and skipping school a little bit and yeah, I got in trouble." Conflict with teachers at school, where her mother also taught, led to her parents sending her to Kent, a private boarding school in Connecticut; her uncle had recently taken up a position there as admissions officer, and he helped to arrange financial aid.
     
     
    "I was lonely," she says, but "I had this teacher who was my only friend in school. His name was Gene. He read us Leaves of Grass and we read Lolita in class, and it changed my world, which was a really solitary world. I didn't have a connection to anyone in class and when I found these writers, I knew they were my people." Gene was just a few years older than her, fresh from Georgetown University. "He would sign me out and we would listen to Tupac and stuff in his car," she remembers, "and he would teach me about old movies like Citizen Kane. He taught me everything."
     
     
    Since then she's become a collector of early editions of classic books, including a signed first edition of Howl by Allen Ginsberg. Names of her sources of inspiration are tattooed on her body, all in elegant copperplate: "Whitman" and "Nabokov", tributes to the writers Gene introduced her to, on her right forearm; "Chateau Marmont", the famous Hollywood hotel, on the other. "Nina" and "Billie" are on her left upper chest, for Billie Holiday and Nina Simone, her favourite singers. "I just like the idea of keeping them close. I like the idea of them coming on tour with me." She laughs. "It makes me happy."
    After high school, Del Rey attended Fordham, a university in the Bronx where she finished a BA with a major in philosophy, but felt out of sync with campus life. "I had my own world going on," she says, "and it was really different from people who just go out every night."
    With the $10,000 she received for her first record deal, halfway through college, she rented a trailer in the New Jersey town of North Bergen for $400 a month and dedicated herself to songwriting and video-making. Her parents, she says, had "traditional expectations" for her career that were "geared towards keeping me safe" after her troubled teens, so "most of my musical world was kept under wraps ... I don't want to say it was a frivolous prospect, but we have nurses in the family, and teachers, and that was more of a reliable profession."
     
     
    The shift in style between the blonde Lizzy Grant days and the auburn Lana Del Rey is disconcerting to some people, who suspect it was engineered by others. But people who only compare Lizzy Grant with Lana Del Rey, she says, "don't have a reference for where I was coming from even before that. I was always singing and always changing - the timing of it hit when I was in a particular phase. It could have hit three years before that, and then they would have been going back to the era when I wasn't platinum, and I was in my natural hair colour." In that case, she guesses, the critics would have said, "Now she's trying to be Marilyn; she's performing in cherry earrings and high heels."
    Del Rey's retro-glam style may appear consciously crafted, but "I don't really feel that way," she says. "I wear jeans every day, so I won't wear them on stage." She rejects the idea that her style is dictated by anyone. "I'm a very independent agent. I run my own show, it's my world. There's never that many talks about, you know, 'When you go on tour, what are you going to look like?' because they know it's going to be as it is - I'll put a dress on, I'll do my hair. My public perception is different from my personal life, which is a very easy, natural way of going about things." Meanwhile, she says, "there are pop stars who are regarded as really authentic and innovative who spend hours putting their outfits together".
     
     
    Authenticity, the issue that obsesses her critics, "isn't an interesting concept for me," Del Rey explains. "It's interesting that they're not asking that question of people who don't even write their own stuff." The truth is, she says, "I've always been really at home with myself and maybe that turns people off. Maybe that's a problem for people. It's funny - I ended up following my gut instinct and that's led me to where I am."
    At her San Francisco show a week later, palm trees, giant floral arrangements and gothic candelabras adorn the stage. Del Rey strolls on in a short, white baby-doll dress, wearing flat slip-ons. She kicks them off at one point and performs the rest of the show barefoot. She runs her hands constantly through her hair, which she wears in natural-looking waves. There are no costume changes, and the presentation feels less slick and choreographed than most performances on Australian Idol. The 7000-seat auditorium is filled with young men and women, many of the girls wearing flowing dresses and flower garlands in tribute to one of Del Rey's defining looks. They know all the lyrics, singing along in an eerie backing chorus to every track when they aren't screaming in excitement. "This is f...ing awesome!" Del Rey calls out. "I really feel a connection!"
     
     
    Towards the end of our conversation in LA, we head outside to the car park for a cigarette break. "It's part of my process, unfortunately," she apologises. She took up smoking at around the same time she gave up drinking, when she was 18. "I used to drink a lot and now I don't drink at all," she says. Was there a catalyst for that decision? "My whole life was the catalyst. It was a mess." She thinks for a moment and says, "I did lose my car, my family's car. That was not a good thing. I guess that was a catalyst." I wonder if this is a euphemism for crashing it, but it's more prosaic. "I forgot where I put it." She sighs and smiles ruefully.
    While she was getting sober, she says, "I spent a lot of time figuring out my life's path, which was being of service to people around me. It's still a part of my life." She lives on the edge of LA's Koreatown, she tells me, where a lot of homeless people need help getting their lives back together. "My time [off] is spent doing outreach-type things. I don't often go into it because it's yet another facet that's so kind of jarring," she says, referring to preconceptions of her as a person whose head is filled only with "vintage dresses". "I've learnt to keep things I actually do sort of to myself."
     
    http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/lolita-in-the-hood-20140505-37r6n.html
  2. turquoisejewel liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana discusses the Guardian controversy, Frances Bean, & Barrie in Aftonbladet interview   
    http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/musik/rockbjornen/article19123254.ab
     
    She puts her cigarette out, just little bit too hard.
    – Yes, sometimes I fucking wish I was dead, but I don't glamorize death or people killing themselves.
            Markus Larsson and Lana Del Rey. Lana Del Ray excuses herself, gets up and starts fiddling with the espresso machine in her hotel suite.
    – Sorry, I can't do interviews without my coffee. Keep talking. I'm listening.
    I've always wondered, why did you create the persona Lana Del Ray?
    – Well, it's not a persona. It's a different name. I've always thought that the way you're kind of born into a name, a geographic location, a family makes it hard to choose for yourself who you want to be. By having a different name I felt more free to be exactly who I am. People seem to think sometimes that I am somebody on stage and then you get off and you're another person, but I have a more alternative way of thinking.
    I thought it was some kind of art project, like a Ziggy Stardust character?
    – Yeah, people think that but actually for me it was just a different name. It has made it easier for me to express a very clear aesthetic that I love.
    So what was the inspiration for your aesthetic?
    – All things dark and beautiful. Everything I love, everything I've been through, everything I've wanted to do. My history and my songs.
    You seem rather interested in the beauty of darkness and despair.
    – I've had despair and grief in my life. In the past four years journalists have always asked me about death, icons and my persona. My own depressions and experiences has gotten miscommunicated as this need to be dark. Actually it's not my preferred way of being. I love when things go really well. Anyone who knows me knows this.
    But what about the interview in The Guardian…
    – I'm not fucking happy about the interview, to start with.
    Well, I know that, and you've made that clear on Twitter. But what did you mean when you said ”I wish I was dead already”?
    – Well, first of all… the questions… Sometimes I do feel like I wish I was dead. I've been through a lot. And yes, sometimes I feel like I fucking wish I was dead. But The Guardian made it sound like I was obsessed with dying because it's glamourous. Me being depressed sometimes has nothing to do with other people wanting to kill themselves.
    It must have been surreal when the daughter of your idol Kurt Cobain, Frances Bean Cobain, critcised you on Twitter?
    – She was saying to me ”don't glamorize death” and I wrote back, and I never write to anyone, but I wrote back and said I didn't glamorize death. I don't even sing about death, except on the title track on ”Born to die”. I sing about relationships. The fact that the headline in The Guardian affected people that way feels unfair. That's the problem with the article.
    You're computer got hacked a couple of years ago and 211 songs got stolen among other things.
    – Yeah, someone remotely accessed my hard drive when I was staying in a hotel. The songs are one of a thousand things that was stolen.
    I would have been devastated.
    – Yeah, the fact that someone is watching you. Knowing that you never gonna have the luxury of discretion. These type of crimes won't ever stop.
    Isn't there some legal action you can take, sue someone?
    – Even if he people that started it got caught, they gave it to 40 other people, so the information is still out there.
    Your life is always turned into headlines Like the recent rumours about your recent relationship. It was said you had broken up, but now I heard that your boyfriend Barrien-James O'Neill told TMZ that it's complete bullshit.
    – I mean… I… I didn't use to talk publicly about my relationships. Because things change all the time. But after not seeing him for several months and people still asking me about him I just said no we're not together right now. And when he got to Los Angeles today and he ran into TMZ I don't think he knew what to say. Sometimes it's not real until you're faced with a camera and somebody asking you.
    Ok, it all seems a bit confused. Well, about the music…
    – It's ok. I get it.
    Back to the music. So… are you together?
    – Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. (Lana basically rolls over laughing out loud)
    – Oh my god, that's so funny.
    I'm sorry, I'm just joking. Why do you mention The Crystal's controversial song ”He hit me (and it felt like a kiss)” in the title track on your new album?
    – I know that people have different opinions about that song. And they're entitled to. I always use autobiographical elements. Mixed with anything I can use as an innuendo instead of saying something super directly. For me the writing comes first. I never felt the need to edit myself.
    Hmm. What are you actually saying? That you have been in abusive relationships?
    – It's a good question. I have trouble talking about that song, I didn't think I would. I don't know what to say.
    Why did you choose to cover ”The other woman”?
    – Firstly it's a jazz song, covered by Nina Simone, she's my favourite. I feel like ”Ultraviolence” has a jazzy feel to it, shades of blue, shades of cool. I'm a huge jazz fan. Billie Holiday, Nina Simone, the singers, you know.
    What have you stolen from them, as a song writer?
    To start with I was just a fan. But I realized early on that I had an inclination to sing songs in a minor key with a touch of a blue note. They are my influences. Alongside The Eagles and The Beach Boys.
    Beautiful music with a dark heart.
    Yeah, ”Dark heart”. That's the follow up album. (Laughs).
     
  3. BluebirdXO liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  4. UltraviolenceBaby liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana interview with The Age, May 10, 2014   
    "her uncle had recently taken up a position there as admissions officer, and he helped to arrange financial aid" I was sure before that she's not from a billionaire family but this is pretty shocking that they didn't have the money and she needed financial aid. And her mother a teacher? I know how "well" paid teachers are... so that's a big blow to the manufactured with daddy's money story
  5. sickmind liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana and Barrie are no longer together   
    Unfortunately the last series of interviews gave me a picture about Lana of a confused, immature and (yes!) selfish person! She always poses like she is the provider for the family (and the money is hers). But what family may I ask? Wife Barry? Weirdo sister Chuck or frozen in project Charly?! Lana is manipulative because she's insecure and she needs this people around her but when her mood changes she goes on with her projects and forgets about them. They seem like accessories to her fucked up movie life! Barry is forgotten, without money, without a career, he basically wasted 3 years from his life on a manipulative and selfish person.
  6. Nastja liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    Live your lifes as you see fit but most of you will have to start to have some experiences before you are giving others lessons about life or sex.
  7. Wilde_child liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    Live your lifes as you see fit but most of you will have to start to have some experiences before you are giving others lessons about life or sex.
  8. LanaDeIRey liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  9. sickmind liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    Well I wanted to adjust some last things about my account and I saw some of your replies:
     
    I don't want to evaluate my looks but financially I'm ok so I could pay for sex daily If this is what you mean
     
    I appreciate your wit but you're off base: I'm married, I have a daughter and I didn't fantasized about a pop singer in a long time. Lana is a beautiful woman but I never thought sexually about her. I always had a protective attitude towards her that's the reason why I was drawn psychologically in the insane bullying online against her (BTW my wife don't likes Lana)
     
    For me the artist persona is important (Wagner it's the only exception). What she said rubbed me in a wrong way. Right now I'm unable to listen to her. I was interested in the articles written online about her but now I don't want to click on any of them titled "Lana Del Rey used sex to get head", "Lana Del Rey claims she's 'slept with a lot of guys", "Lana Del Rey admits sleeping with many in the industry" and so on, it's sickening. I don't leave this forum because of the "attacks, I dragged Lana haters to the ground on other forums, I leave because I don't have anything else to say. Lana is a closed chapter for me."
     
    What about Video Games, Blue Jeans, Dark Paradise and so on, you were really attracted to an cynical artist that promotes casual, emotionless sex? I don't think so, you were drawn to Lana's romanticism, any Lana song is about investing emotions in a relationship. I'm quite baffled that some of you tried to counter argue that Lana is a promoter of casual sex in 75% of her songs, it's quite the opposite
     
    I hope that you (@LifeisBeautiful) will found someone who will love you for what you are, sex will be part of that relationship. 
     
    I'm really deploring some of your views on sexuality. I can understand it to a point because most of you are teenagers and the sex urges are just too strong at that age. Your position on sexuality isn't a surprise to me given that your generation has grown up on internet porn. Some of you think that what women and men want from sex is what you see in those inept productions. Be real, having casual sex (paid for) it's not hard to get in these days, it's not always fun (the myth of casual sex) but if you'll live your life that way you'll become an lonely empty shell. It's much harder to have a meaningful relationship with someone. Lana sung that her "Pussy tastes like Pepsi Cola", well from my experience every pussy taste the same, it's just a moist hole (and I think that women can say something similar about men). If that you're after, be my guest.
     
    In my view, casual sex will always be morally inferior to serial monogamy which is the norm in any society and I think that Lana will be judged by the majority of people negatively. She always was a mess of powerful contradictory statements and the slightest emotional signal can tip anyone over to like or dislike her. Now I dislike her, profoundly. I don't trust any of her messages and I just don't care about her anymore. You cannot do or say anything you want unless you're ready to bear the consequences. I don't think Lana understands the consequences. Barrie's gone, Carozzini is nowhere and I have a feeling that James Franco would not be around for her...Who wants to be romantically involved with a self admitted whore?! I bet that people from her former and current label are offended by her statements and some of the fans will reevaluate her, I'm certain of that even if they aren't say it loudly.
     
    I don't want to offend anyone these were my opinions. Wish you the best
  10. Nastja liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    Well I wanted to adjust some last things about my account and I saw some of your replies:
     
    I don't want to evaluate my looks but financially I'm ok so I could pay for sex daily If this is what you mean
     
    I appreciate your wit but you're off base: I'm married, I have a daughter and I didn't fantasized about a pop singer in a long time. Lana is a beautiful woman but I never thought sexually about her. I always had a protective attitude towards her that's the reason why I was drawn psychologically in the insane bullying online against her (BTW my wife don't likes Lana)
     
    For me the artist persona is important (Wagner it's the only exception). What she said rubbed me in a wrong way. Right now I'm unable to listen to her. I was interested in the articles written online about her but now I don't want to click on any of them titled "Lana Del Rey used sex to get head", "Lana Del Rey claims she's 'slept with a lot of guys", "Lana Del Rey admits sleeping with many in the industry" and so on, it's sickening. I don't leave this forum because of the "attacks, I dragged Lana haters to the ground on other forums, I leave because I don't have anything else to say. Lana is a closed chapter for me."
     
    What about Video Games, Blue Jeans, Dark Paradise and so on, you were really attracted to an cynical artist that promotes casual, emotionless sex? I don't think so, you were drawn to Lana's romanticism, any Lana song is about investing emotions in a relationship. I'm quite baffled that some of you tried to counter argue that Lana is a promoter of casual sex in 75% of her songs, it's quite the opposite
     
    I hope that you (@LifeisBeautiful) will found someone who will love you for what you are, sex will be part of that relationship. 
     
    I'm really deploring some of your views on sexuality. I can understand it to a point because most of you are teenagers and the sex urges are just too strong at that age. Your position on sexuality isn't a surprise to me given that your generation has grown up on internet porn. Some of you think that what women and men want from sex is what you see in those inept productions. Be real, having casual sex (paid for) it's not hard to get in these days, it's not always fun (the myth of casual sex) but if you'll live your life that way you'll become an lonely empty shell. It's much harder to have a meaningful relationship with someone. Lana sung that her "Pussy tastes like Pepsi Cola", well from my experience every pussy taste the same, it's just a moist hole (and I think that women can say something similar about men). If that you're after, be my guest.
     
    In my view, casual sex will always be morally inferior to serial monogamy which is the norm in any society and I think that Lana will be judged by the majority of people negatively. She always was a mess of powerful contradictory statements and the slightest emotional signal can tip anyone over to like or dislike her. Now I dislike her, profoundly. I don't trust any of her messages and I just don't care about her anymore. You cannot do or say anything you want unless you're ready to bear the consequences. I don't think Lana understands the consequences. Barrie's gone, Carozzini is nowhere and I have a feeling that James Franco would not be around for her...Who wants to be romantically involved with a self admitted whore?! I bet that people from her former and current label are offended by her statements and some of the fans will reevaluate her, I'm certain of that even if they aren't say it loudly.
     
    I don't want to offend anyone these were my opinions. Wish you the best
  11. GirlAfraid liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  12. sickmind liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  13. Philomene liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  14. PinUpCartoonBaby liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  15. kitschqueen liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  16. butterflies liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    Simply there is no consistency in her story, there is no time for all of her invented things to happen at once. I stated my believes and I tried to argue with some facts. 
    Explain than her idiotic statement that "I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. This is not the Beatles era, this is instant fucking news era="Lana is the biggest and fakest whore in the world" era.
     
    I remind you Michael Cassio's line from Othello: "Reputation, reputation, reputation! O, I have lost my reputation! I have lost the immortal part of myself, and what remains is bestial. My reputation, Iago, my reputation!" Maybe she doesn't care about her reputation or she want's this type of reputation. I rather think that this is not the case, but she'll have a difficult time or rather will be nearly impossible to change her image when she wakes up from this nightmare.
     
    I think that you are confusing mental illness with psychological problems.
     
    And please, as far as I know, nowhere in the world the concepts of promiscuity and family go well together, maybe you can explain this more
  17. butterflies liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  18. kik liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  19. Sam Gho liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  20. LifeisBeautiful liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  21. Alicia liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue   
    I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.
     
    After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.
     
    I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.
     
    Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.
     
    She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.
     
    1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.
     
    I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.
     
    2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.
     
    “I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.
     
    “I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.
     
    Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.
     
    I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.
     
    I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
  22. technicolor liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana Del Rey covers Rolling Stone August 2014   
    I'm for criticizing an artist (for example I didn't like Lana's attitude and vocals at Glastonbury). 
    But I don't understand your wording regarding her actions for which she has to be accountable?! I have to admit that I was drawn to Lana as much as for her music and voice as for the incredible and fascinating bullying that she was subjected online. I read obsessively almost anything about her, but besides some inconsistencies in her interviews I didn't found objective motives behind the strong reactions against her. I think that besides the absurd opinions (not actions or facts) such as she is a corporate puppet made with her daddy's money, or the unbelievably misogynistic opinion that she is just a fame-whore who surgically altered her image and changed her name for fame, there is nothing that is remotely a behavior expressed by her for what she has to be taken accountable by anyone.
     
    And still, most of the interviewers are patronizing her which is borderline with mockery. Who the fuck starts an interview with "On a scale of to 1 to 10, how much do you wish you were dead right now?". This is mockery, lack of respect, period. I would kick his ass out in that minute and I'm not a sensitive artist. It's an entitlement feeling, created by the attitude of the media and blogs towards her. Everybody (even fans) feels entitled to criticize her art, behavior etc. regardless of their competence or knowledge of facts. I'm not talking about legitimate opinions about liking her music or not but about the incredibly stupid think-pieces written about her from a moral high ground which are in the most of the cases ridiculous posturings coming from people who doesn't have remotely Lana's artistic talent. The blogs judged her before she even spoke out, she get defensive from the start and all of her interviews were screwed up because of this.
     
    You are a fan and a sensible person but even you feel entitled to hold her "accountable" for her actions. What actions?! She put some music out for God sake, she made art as she saw fit, that is all she ever done. Some of her lyrics are not loved by some feminist?! That is an action (creating some controversial lyrics) for what she has to take the patronizing and irreverent questioning from people? I think not. She was right: after having to consecutive successful albums in the US, with music that even the RS acknowledged that is not corporate Top40 BS, having two respectable tours under her belt, you, the interviewer, have to be concerned more with her artistry and accomplishments than dwelling pointlessly on old and personal subjects like SNL or her daddy.
  23. Wilde_child liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana Del Rey covers Rolling Stone August 2014   
    I'm for criticizing an artist (for example I didn't like Lana's attitude and vocals at Glastonbury). 
    But I don't understand your wording regarding her actions for which she has to be accountable?! I have to admit that I was drawn to Lana as much as for her music and voice as for the incredible and fascinating bullying that she was subjected online. I read obsessively almost anything about her, but besides some inconsistencies in her interviews I didn't found objective motives behind the strong reactions against her. I think that besides the absurd opinions (not actions or facts) such as she is a corporate puppet made with her daddy's money, or the unbelievably misogynistic opinion that she is just a fame-whore who surgically altered her image and changed her name for fame, there is nothing that is remotely a behavior expressed by her for what she has to be taken accountable by anyone.
     
    And still, most of the interviewers are patronizing her which is borderline with mockery. Who the fuck starts an interview with "On a scale of to 1 to 10, how much do you wish you were dead right now?". This is mockery, lack of respect, period. I would kick his ass out in that minute and I'm not a sensitive artist. It's an entitlement feeling, created by the attitude of the media and blogs towards her. Everybody (even fans) feels entitled to criticize her art, behavior etc. regardless of their competence or knowledge of facts. I'm not talking about legitimate opinions about liking her music or not but about the incredibly stupid think-pieces written about her from a moral high ground which are in the most of the cases ridiculous posturings coming from people who doesn't have remotely Lana's artistic talent. The blogs judged her before she even spoke out, she get defensive from the start and all of her interviews were screwed up because of this.
     
    You are a fan and a sensible person but even you feel entitled to hold her "accountable" for her actions. What actions?! She put some music out for God sake, she made art as she saw fit, that is all she ever done. Some of her lyrics are not loved by some feminist?! That is an action (creating some controversial lyrics) for what she has to take the patronizing and irreverent questioning from people? I think not. She was right: after having to consecutive successful albums in the US, with music that even the RS acknowledged that is not corporate Top40 BS, having two respectable tours under her belt, you, the interviewer, have to be concerned more with her artistry and accomplishments than dwelling pointlessly on old and personal subjects like SNL or her daddy.
  24. Trash Magic liked a post in a topic by FormerLanaFan in Lana discusses the Guardian controversy, Frances Bean, & Barrie in Aftonbladet interview   
    http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/musik/rockbjornen/article19123254.ab
     
    She puts her cigarette out, just little bit too hard.
    – Yes, sometimes I fucking wish I was dead, but I don't glamorize death or people killing themselves.
            Markus Larsson and Lana Del Rey. Lana Del Ray excuses herself, gets up and starts fiddling with the espresso machine in her hotel suite.
    – Sorry, I can't do interviews without my coffee. Keep talking. I'm listening.
    I've always wondered, why did you create the persona Lana Del Ray?
    – Well, it's not a persona. It's a different name. I've always thought that the way you're kind of born into a name, a geographic location, a family makes it hard to choose for yourself who you want to be. By having a different name I felt more free to be exactly who I am. People seem to think sometimes that I am somebody on stage and then you get off and you're another person, but I have a more alternative way of thinking.
    I thought it was some kind of art project, like a Ziggy Stardust character?
    – Yeah, people think that but actually for me it was just a different name. It has made it easier for me to express a very clear aesthetic that I love.
    So what was the inspiration for your aesthetic?
    – All things dark and beautiful. Everything I love, everything I've been through, everything I've wanted to do. My history and my songs.
    You seem rather interested in the beauty of darkness and despair.
    – I've had despair and grief in my life. In the past four years journalists have always asked me about death, icons and my persona. My own depressions and experiences has gotten miscommunicated as this need to be dark. Actually it's not my preferred way of being. I love when things go really well. Anyone who knows me knows this.
    But what about the interview in The Guardian…
    – I'm not fucking happy about the interview, to start with.
    Well, I know that, and you've made that clear on Twitter. But what did you mean when you said ”I wish I was dead already”?
    – Well, first of all… the questions… Sometimes I do feel like I wish I was dead. I've been through a lot. And yes, sometimes I feel like I fucking wish I was dead. But The Guardian made it sound like I was obsessed with dying because it's glamourous. Me being depressed sometimes has nothing to do with other people wanting to kill themselves.
    It must have been surreal when the daughter of your idol Kurt Cobain, Frances Bean Cobain, critcised you on Twitter?
    – She was saying to me ”don't glamorize death” and I wrote back, and I never write to anyone, but I wrote back and said I didn't glamorize death. I don't even sing about death, except on the title track on ”Born to die”. I sing about relationships. The fact that the headline in The Guardian affected people that way feels unfair. That's the problem with the article.
    You're computer got hacked a couple of years ago and 211 songs got stolen among other things.
    – Yeah, someone remotely accessed my hard drive when I was staying in a hotel. The songs are one of a thousand things that was stolen.
    I would have been devastated.
    – Yeah, the fact that someone is watching you. Knowing that you never gonna have the luxury of discretion. These type of crimes won't ever stop.
    Isn't there some legal action you can take, sue someone?
    – Even if he people that started it got caught, they gave it to 40 other people, so the information is still out there.
    Your life is always turned into headlines Like the recent rumours about your recent relationship. It was said you had broken up, but now I heard that your boyfriend Barrien-James O'Neill told TMZ that it's complete bullshit.
    – I mean… I… I didn't use to talk publicly about my relationships. Because things change all the time. But after not seeing him for several months and people still asking me about him I just said no we're not together right now. And when he got to Los Angeles today and he ran into TMZ I don't think he knew what to say. Sometimes it's not real until you're faced with a camera and somebody asking you.
    Ok, it all seems a bit confused. Well, about the music…
    – It's ok. I get it.
    Back to the music. So… are you together?
    – Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. (Lana basically rolls over laughing out loud)
    – Oh my god, that's so funny.
    I'm sorry, I'm just joking. Why do you mention The Crystal's controversial song ”He hit me (and it felt like a kiss)” in the title track on your new album?
    – I know that people have different opinions about that song. And they're entitled to. I always use autobiographical elements. Mixed with anything I can use as an innuendo instead of saying something super directly. For me the writing comes first. I never felt the need to edit myself.
    Hmm. What are you actually saying? That you have been in abusive relationships?
    – It's a good question. I have trouble talking about that song, I didn't think I would. I don't know what to say.
    Why did you choose to cover ”The other woman”?
    – Firstly it's a jazz song, covered by Nina Simone, she's my favourite. I feel like ”Ultraviolence” has a jazzy feel to it, shades of blue, shades of cool. I'm a huge jazz fan. Billie Holiday, Nina Simone, the singers, you know.
    What have you stolen from them, as a song writer?
    To start with I was just a fan. But I realized early on that I had an inclination to sing songs in a minor key with a touch of a blue note. They are my influences. Alongside The Eagles and The Beach Boys.
    Beautiful music with a dark heart.
    Yeah, ”Dark heart”. That's the follow up album. (Laughs).
     
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