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COTCC is everything but apolitical (theres actually no thing as apolitical, as politics refer to power relationships and they're present in every aspect of human life). The whole album's narrative is the dilemma between the lights and shadows of privilege. Living in precary conditions or being able to look to the world from the comfort of a mansion arent things that happen from spontaneous generation, but that rely on the very existence of inequality, which is the root of political dynamics itself. The fact that the album presents those topics in an apparently unproblematic, naturalised way, doesnt make them less politic or conflictive, just makes it harder to look deeper into their social connotations.

Isn't it "centuries have gone"?

Know about the 'dot.com' financial gate? Happened just as Lana was going through teenage years, ended up exploding in 2002, if I don't remember wrong.

Not feeling the title a lot, but the art is outstanding. A very nice thing to see Marina being colourful and vibrant again! By the way, if RCS miraculously ends up being released on the scheduled date, we'll have new albums from Lana and from Marina together in the span of ten days!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOAMnxOk1Uo&ab_channel=AntonTL Don't know if this guy's performance of DBJAG has already been discussed here, but I find it just brilliant. His voice makes the song even more EELS's-like, and captures perfectly the elegance and somberness of it. If you havent already, give it a listen!

Not to hate on NFR, but the more I listen to COTCC and the more time goes by and perspective towards this album grows wider, the more it looks like a random bunch of songs (few outstanding ones -VB, Hope-, some nice ones -Bartender, MAC,NFR, HTD, FIILY- and many, many fillers and/or poorly written ones -HIAB, TG, LS, TBNAR, DT, California) casually thrown together as an album and getting a huge crittical acclaim I still cant get how came to happen apart than the album having some truly genius moments and being released at a perfect sociopolitical timing (Trumps impeachment and right before a worldwide apocallyptical pandemic, which came to set some messages on it as almost prophetic). I love Lana and her output in a very special, compromised way, also this album, but with time Ive got to think that, as a whole, it may be her weakest one.

They better not hear The Greatest/Liability, Love Song/LMLYLAW/WAH and lets better not continue... I dont think this guy is a bad musician or producer, but he's noticeably uncreative composition-wise.

Hahahahahaha Not all those who copy plagiarize

The Love Song/ Wild at Heart/ Let me love you like a woman/Happiness is a butterfly same damn three chords over and over without Lana seeming to notice the cheating

I guess you think the Commonwealth (or the "current british monarchy" -that isnt the same political institution that has stand for centuries either, it seems-) has nothing to do with what the British empire was, therefore there's no historical continuity from one to the other, nor they represent the same national oligarchies interests. There's a lot of scientifical studies regarding the relationships between former empires and formes colonies, and I can guarant you that they are still everything but symmetrical or based on solidarity, but all the opposite. I get that this isnt a topic which all of us know deeply about (and it shouldnt be either, as we all come from different academic/professional fields and thats amazing and makes the dialogue always rich and enjoyable), but if you arent aware about the particularities of the topic you are talking about (which you definetly arent, and thats absolutely allright with it), try not to come off as superior to anyone here at least.

Painting the british monarchy almost as charity sisters while arrogantly asking another user to get educated speaks for itself. Not looking for controversy here -not that kind of person-, but if you are going to be rude against other users at least have some historical knowledge to back your pretentiousness.

I see that you are coming from good intentions with this post, so no hard feelings or whatever. Anyway, sorry to say that your perspective is also uninformed. If there are inequalities among nations and also between individuals is because of structural power and violence schemes (which monarchy is and has been a key for them to function) that produce those inequalities. The inmensely unbalanced distribution of wealth and influence that poisons the world we live in isnt a natural fact, but the result of terribly traumatic historical events such as colonialism (where specifically the british monarchy played a huge role) that left one half of the world in the worst of miseries so a 1% from the other half could rot in money and power and talk about how natural and justified those inequalities were. I live in Europe too and sorry, but if you are talking about the eastern countries of the EU, what left them in very difficult situations was precisely the introduction of capitalism in their economies, which included the devastation of their formely strong industrial, medical and welfare systems (which were developed, by the way, by communist governments -totally to criticise in other regards such as the respect for individual rights, but to be credited also on the construction of solid nations and economies-). So yes, Lana is definetly uneducated on many levels and it should'nt be a problem to acknowledge that, as its absolutely evident (and not just because of the monarchy thing, but by how unaware she's shown to be regarding some topics that are being discussed here) and something she has to work in (if she is sensitive and responsible enough to do it, of course).

Absolutely agree with this. Seeing some bigger ads from time to time isn't something unbearable, yet a good thing if they help you financially to mantain this place that is somehow home for many of us. Thank you for being so considerate to ask us about it, and thank you for keeping this beautiful community going!

The first one reminds me heavily of White Dress regarding vocal melodic line and performance. Nice songs btw, thanks for sharing!

Lana and Nick Cave together would be all the world needed. No more music after that, I wouldnt complain.

Dont know what Lana's weight has to do with this thread, anyway, a good chance to discuss what is certainly an important topic. Lana is a human being, human beings gain and loose weight, they age, they have psychologically amazing moments and mental health struggles as well. The fact that she's working at an industry thats absolutely brutal regarding image doesnt mean that she doesnt undergo the same processes as everyone, and she has all the right to. If she's going through a bad mental phase (which we all happen to at our own ways), dont think that the discussion should have to focus on how much her weight varies because of that, but on how good it would be for her to get well as soon as possible, regardless of her losing (or gaining) weight on the meanwhile. Fatphobia is a terrible thing and I think that this forum is full of very critical and smart people that have already made their points about the issue. I want to think there's no place here for toxic celebrity culture (bodyshaming included), so actually glad that this is being discussed.

Do we know if she performed again last night?

This post has a weirdly comfortable thing to it.

Lovely to watch. Anyway, I prefer the minimalist setting from october, just the guitar and both of her voices. They seemed more comfortable too with it. Looking forward to that album!

Nikki's voice and songs are great and BUS was one of the highlights of COTCC, so beautiful it was absurd. Truly willing to see what they've worked in together!

Lana going full Arch Enemy. Enemies of screaming beware.

I couldnt hate more what Kanye represents rn, but that album is truly a powerful masterpiece. Wasnt interested at all in this RCS thing, but if something even slightly related to MBDTF is to be expected, Im in!

' I do, have you?

Why, why did I have to be here...

Its been almost two weeks since the album leaked and here tthere are some notes after properly digesting it: -Truly a beautiful project. Her most cohesive yet alongside Honeymoon. Only flaw for me is it's length, should have had one more song to totally come to shape. -The sound is very elegant and mature, absolutely depurated. Production is on point and there's no fillers (Im not the biggest fan of TJF, but anyway, it has it spot within the album). -The album somehow -and I needed many listens to notice it- puts me on a very weird mindset, not exactly a joyful one. Listening to it is a very reflective, calm experience, and a bit of a painful one too. Both the lyrics and the music are definetly coming from a very deep, kinda dark place most of the time. The last three songs are literally a dream as the closing to the album, are painfully beautiful and sound like the ultimate goodbye from Lana. And that's part of what makes the album experience troubling for me. Not that she hasnt given that message before (almost all of her albums sound as they could've been her last, farewell one) or that she hasnt already announced her next project, but the feeling of distance in this specific one is definetly alarming. The ruminations, the distant approach to reality, the calm and the pain of it all make the album sound as a goodbye letter for me. We know that she will be here for long, but anyway, those are the feelings. Hope all of you who listened to it after the official release enjoyed it!