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Please... not them!

Man, how...? For me, it's one of her career highlights! What dont you like about it?

First: "NFR hater", who? Second: Talking about the critic, not the publication. Go and check who wrote the review on NFR for the decade-end list, he/she isn't the same who wrote the other album ones (but LFL, with a 4/5 -sure many here have reasons to not agree on that either). And yes, please, Lana, keep your vision going!

Another entitled idiot who didn't took the time or the effort to listen to anything else by her after Born to die and Video Games, yet has the audacity to despise the inmense records she has put out since day one. Worse, yet: another coward that would surely have tried to ridiculise her if it was still the tone on the industry, yet feels authorized enough to give herself validation when the mainstream opinion finally decided to do it. If there's anything that makes me respect Lana a ton within all this rubbish critics, is that the last thing she was going for with NFR was validation. Keep your vision going, Lana.

Over and over, honey...

For sure the potato thing will be on the same level as most of her metaphors, but have to agree that her voice, her emotion and the music will made that irrelevant. Truly want to listen to it!

All the title, the artwork and the piano variations Jack seems to be playing behind her voice remind me of CMBYN aesthetics. I wasn't expecting such a beautiful cover, by the way!

I don't know them except from this review, so can't judge about how much they know or don't know about whatever, yet I found the review funny and somehow brave -as they went against all the big critics in the industry, who exposed exactly the opposite vision about the album-.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJV_s0TZ18&t=1004s Don't know if this review had been discussed yet here, but it's one of the few ones that doesn't adhere to the mainstream view about the album (the "incredible masterpiece" "second coming after Christ" thing), and it also highlights many of the flaws that some of us have highlighted about it since the beggining. The guys reviewing are very funny, and it's even funnier to see how pissed the people are in the comments about their review. Check it if you haven't, sure a nice thing to entertain to during quarantine

I see it from a similar perspective... Bartender is somehow a beautiful way to remember why the narrative of the album was optimist on the first songs of it, an emotional reset and a reminder that the world yet holds tons of mysteries and wonders to admire and be intrigued about. The last three songs (being LFA in my tracklist the last one) sound for me as lullabies, beautiful and sincere songs that try to comfort the listener -and Lana herself- after what's been an intense experience, yet keeping beating the self consciousness that's maybe the vital constant on the album. It's truly amazing how just removing three songs -the three ones that weren't intended to be on it since the beggining (as Lana stated on the early pre-release instances that the album contained 11 songs)-, and adding LFA as a bonus track, has changed inmensely the way I can approach to the personal statement and the whole aesthetic Lana was going for with NFR. I can say now, after many, many listens, that I absolutely love and feel on a deep level what she has done with this project, and that it for sure marks an inflection point on what she is as an artist.

I know that many, many fans adore the song, yet I can't stand it... Don't think that it fits at all with the elegance and seriousness of the album (or what the album sounds like for me once DT, California and TNBAR are removed from it, better said), and don't like either the song itself . By the way, readded Bartender to my tracklist on NFR, I ended getting that it actually had a necesary place on it, after The Greatest.

Hahahaha... No problem, man. The way we experience art always differs amongst different people, and I know that for many the album is perfect, or near perfect, just the way Lana released it, but also there's many of us who found problematic to enjoy it given the structure and heterogeneity of the songs on it, and that's why I left here my own found way to fully enjoy it.

I'm glad that you found the listening experience smoother that way, too I don't think, actually, that the album loses anything if removing them, but exactly the opposite. Maybe they would have been nice as bonus tracks, but in the context of the album, they don't truly add, from my perspective. Even Bartender, which I love as a song, sounds out of place there.

Not that I necessarily dislike those songs (even if California and TNBAR are quite boring and uninspired for me), they just don't go well with the album's sonority. It felt so cohesive and flowed so, so naturally and sensefully without them. The transition from FIILY to Love Song, p.example, was absolutely smooth and beautiful without DT in between.

Just listened to the album for the first time without the songs that didn't fit for me in it since the beggining (Doin Time, California, TNBAR, Bartender). Also with LFA as the last song, after HIADT. The experience has been truly beautiful and now I can see, finally, why all the critics are on their knees about the album, and why it's being considered a masterpiece and her most mature work. Even with the production flaws and the tired vibe that's all around the album, I truly felt it on a deep level. It touched something very inside. Don't know if you all have done the same as I did today -removing those songs-, but I highly encourage to do that if you haven't.

This is gross as hell. Hundreds of thousands getting infected worldwide, dozens of thousands dying, yet Lana needs to go outside with her cringy friends. I'm not worried about her, but how many millions of people without health insurance are in the EEUU that wont be able to face this? How many other will lose all because of the huge economic crisis that's coming? Just hoping that the privileged ones -as her and her friends- will grow up at least a bit and stay at their mansions, even if that appears as problematic to them.

What a nice thread! By the way, the painting makes me thing of Looking for America or Ride.

"If this is the end I want a boyfriend"/"Grenadine quarantine". Watch all the cultural media start talking aboutthe "deep insight Lana del Rey has developed on the current pandemia, taking her poetry to unmatched levels of depth and conscience about the current state of the humanity incoming eclipse" or some bulshit like that. And of course, "Not that we were expecting less from the artist who has already conveyed such strong conceptions of reality in lyrics as "The culture is lit and I had a ball"".

Don't know, sometimes she surprises. Surely not a very probable thing to happen, but maybe . I think it would be a beautiful thing.

I live in Spain and here we have been confined for two days already, still 13 more to come. Many artists have been developing nice ideas such as Instagram live festivals and concerts -free ones, of course-, and I thought that that kind of initiatives are beautiful and community reinforcing, specially with all the terrible things that are coming on the economic and social side, and are already starting to happen (lots of bussineses closing, people getting fired by hundreds, a huge crisis resembling -or even worse- the one happened in 2008). It would be very beautiful if Lana decided to make a little acoustic concert from her IG, too.

If this ends up being true, it's the most pathetic thing he could have done. Does he know that her gilfriend is one of the most relevant voices in the world musical industry? Does he know that millions of people follow her and have a -more or less informed- opinion on what she does or doesn't do, and that many are willing -and able- to effectively express it on the Internet? Is he going to fight every fan who doesn't like him, or that is rude against him, or what? Note that I'm against all the crap towards bullying him by social network -as most of the people who do it aren't criticising from a critical point, but from a hysterical and gossipy diehard one-, but his response to it couldn't be childier.

Of course the situation wasn't this bad when she did (not) the announcement, but the threat was already a thing. Also true that she may have cancelled it due to personal reasons, but the thing with illness (at least the thing she described, losing her voice etc.) didn't really seem very plausible to me. Maybe it was the disastrous way she managed the situation what made her credibility questionable, don't know.

I think that, given the point this issue has reached, it's safe to say that she cancelled the tour because of it. But other artists have done the same and have been honest about it, I don't get why would she lie or give the vague, blurry explanations she gave.

Hey! Just noticed that, on february 27th, Jack Antonoff uploaded a bunch of pictures to Instagram, one of them a picture of a lot of polaroids disposed on a wall. I can recognise Lana in at least two of them. Should we assume that they've been working again on the studio lately? I post this here as I think it counts as a "sighting", and it didn't exist a thread for it.

The perspective and lightning. If you see the pictures from her brother's b-day -just few days ago-, she looked as if someone had make her age with Faceapp.