drowning mermaid

You know, I always thought she’d roll the other way and try to be edgy by calling herself a satanist (like I did when I was 15) but this is somehow even worse.

You know, I always thought she’d roll the other way and try to be edgy by calling herself a satanist (like I did when I was 15) but this is somehow even worse.

I can’t remmeber if I was really high or if at some point someone was very angry and talking shit about lana’s ears. Was that real or did I hallucinate that? Either way I’m still confused and laughing

As a Scorpio rising, I totally believe that Lana’s real personality lies within the Lizzy Grant era but also this new NFR era. I think this newer generation of her reflects her true self much more than LFL and Honeymoon even though they were excellent pieces of art

Honestly? I was kind of disheartened by her comments on feminism. To me, part of being a good person is caring about other people even if you don’t know them, and that includes her fellow women. I see this as a step forward, pretending to care about the plight of others is still better than being proud of not giving a damn.
 
Also, as a quick aside, Change doesn’t strike me as political. GBA isn’t a bad song and WTWWAWWKD delivers a message about ignoring war and suffering and the political climate and just going on about your pleasure and keeping on to hope, it’s strictly hedonistic and isn’t in anyway PC

Honestly? I was kind of disheartened by her comments on feminism. To me, part of being a good person is caring about other people even if you don’t know them, and that includes her fellow women. I see this as a step forward, pretending to care about the plight of others is still better than being proud of not giving a damn.
 
Also, as a quick aside, Change doesn’t strike me as political. GBA isn’t a bad song and WTWWAWWKD delivers a message about ignoring war and suffering and the political climate and just going on about your pleasure and keeping on to hope, it’s strictly hedonistic and isn’t in anyway PC

Honestly? I was kind of disheartened by her comments on feminism. To me, part of being a good person is caring about other people even if you don’t know them, and that includes her fellow women. I see this as a step forward, pretending to care about the plight of others is still better than being proud of not giving a damn.
 
Also, as a quick aside, Change doesn’t strike me as political. GBA isn’t a bad song and WTWWAWWKD delivers a message about ignoring war and suffering and the political climate and just going on about your pleasure and keeping on to hope, it’s strictly hedonistic and isn’t in anyway PC

there are loads of singers with an ounce of talent right now 

Honestly? I was kind of disheartened by her comments on feminism. To me, part of being a good person is caring about other people even if you don’t know them, and that includes her fellow women. I see this as a step forward, pretending to care about the plight of others is still better than being proud of not giving a damn.
 
Also, as a quick aside, Change doesn’t strike me as political. GBA isn’t a bad song and WTWWAWWKD delivers a message about ignoring war and suffering and the political climate and just going on about your pleasure and keeping on to hope, it’s strictly hedonistic and isn’t in anyway PC

Honestly? I was kind of disheartened by her comments on feminism. To me, part of being a good person is caring about other people even if you don’t know them, and that includes her fellow women. I see this as a step forward, pretending to care about the plight of others is still better than being proud of not giving a damn.
 
Also, as a quick aside, Change doesn’t strike me as political. GBA isn’t a bad song and WTWWAWWKD delivers a message about ignoring war and suffering and the political climate and just going on about your pleasure and keeping on to hope, it’s strictly hedonistic and isn’t in anyway PC

This is... such a weird complaint. She’s attending homophobic churches. I think being PC is the least of our problems with her right now.

This is... such a weird complaint. She’s attending homophobic churches. I think being PC is the least of our problems with her right now.

This is... such a weird complaint. She’s attending homophobic churches. I think being PC is the least of our problems with her right now.

we're in the middle of World War II number of pages
 
 
This thread should stop at 2019 pages if we want album

I think she totally is part of the tapid liberal consensus that most American celebrities of her range share. They are liberal enough to blame Trump voters for being the underprivileged people falling for populism, not Liberal enough to bring real depth into their perspectives, or look toward places outside America or the Western world, let alone doing it in a way that wouldn't be blatantly neocolonial, giving millions to make them akin to the West but making sure people forget their donations account for 1% of their wealth, and that they support the worst corporations on a daily basis, when they're not advertizing for them. Liberal enough to 'tolerate' or include, to a certain extent, minorities in their content, but not Liberal enough to understand that they won't bring peace in Palestine. Liberal enough to leave aside antifeminist rhetoric, not Liberal enough to stop fueling institutions that are harming minorities, for instance Hillsong but that's only the visible type of ones. To say that climate change is real like 95% of people know but not to take any further action or stop flying private jets two hundred times a year. She's not the only one to do that and I don't think it would be reasonable to ask her to do otherwise, because she's just part of it all, but the media or people acting as if she was taking a stand in ANY WAY by alluding to her disliking for Trump need to stop.
 
Plus her submissive position in her 2010 songs was not an interpretation. It was clearly there, not only in the voice, in the videos, in the overall attitude, it was in the words. It's striking when you discover new songs from that time, like Bad Boy. I'm not saying it's wrong though, it's a fact

don't pretend you don't know all-pervasive male domination characterizes our societies and can be found in the type of submissiveness she shows in her songs more than in others. Such submissiveness is not a human constant, it's part of the culture and more precisely part of that vintage subculture she used in 2010. And I'm not saying Live or Die isn't good but once again, it can't be used for debunking her submissiveness
 
I'm not asking her to be a feminist militant in any way, I'm asking for her to be considered what she is, that is to say NOT an activist, nor somebody who's politically committed, and i'm not saying that not being such a person is wrong

I agree with this. I see a lot of outrage on LB because of things people created in their head.
 
"Lana is doing a folk album!"
*Lana releases a non-folk track*
LB response: She said she was doing a folk album! I'm unstanning!
 
I think there is lots that we are not privy too and it makes sense considering all the leaks she has had in the past.
 
Ben said the album is coming this year. It's June. I'm sure we'll have a single before end of summer and an album after that. 

this is all so cursed but isn't a post that surprises me one iota. this essentially justifies white supremacy and misogyny and i'm so fucking done. called it tho 

hey know what built the western world? FUCKING SLAVERY and the intentional underdevelopment of africa. i am sickened over here. i'm out

Honestly? I was kind of disheartened by her comments on feminism. To me, part of being a good person is caring about other people even if you don’t know them, and that includes her fellow women. I see this as a step forward, pretending to care about the plight of others is still better than being proud of not giving a damn.
 
Also, as a quick aside, Change doesn’t strike me as political. GBA isn’t a bad song and WTWWAWWKD delivers a message about ignoring war and suffering and the political climate and just going on about your pleasure and keeping on to hope, it’s strictly hedonistic and isn’t in anyway PC

This is... such a weird complaint. She’s attending homophobic churches. I think being PC is the least of our problems with her right now.

If the songs are submissive, they can't be 'interpreted' as submissive, they can only be viewed as such, ie there is no bias, and they were - and rightly
 
About the empowerment thing, it's a matter of proportions. I could enumerate at least fifty songs in which she's acting submissive, to a certain degree of course, sometimes very much, sometimes less. But she never was so 'emancipated' in any song as she was submissive in others.
 
And I don't think these songs really convey empowerment. When she played the femme fatale role she wasn't getting out of her submissive character, it's totally coherent with that wannabe fifties attitude. Come on, we know the femme fatale myth is a patriarchical construction made up so that men could fantasize over it. So if today women want to subvert it and turn it into a non-patriarchal attitude, I shouldn't have any problem with that, but Lana clearly wasn't doing that in her songs.
 
plus "baby I can't do it alone, cause you're the one that I want", "would you kill for me? would you die for me?", "I know what you've done and I can be your alibi" yeah super empowered, much more than the man in the song. I don't see any equality in American either

Honestly? I was kind of disheartened by her comments on feminism. To me, part of being a good person is caring about other people even if you don’t know them, and that includes her fellow women. I see this as a step forward, pretending to care about the plight of others is still better than being proud of not giving a damn.
 
Also, as a quick aside, Change doesn’t strike me as political. GBA isn’t a bad song and WTWWAWWKD delivers a message about ignoring war and suffering and the political climate and just going on about your pleasure and keeping on to hope, it’s strictly hedonistic and isn’t in anyway PC

This is... such a weird complaint. She’s attending homophobic churches. I think being PC is the least of our problems with her right now.