shadedfeelings

you should add Ben Mawson who she lived with for several years in London.
 

can't wait to hear a song "Salvatore" on Honeymoon
 
"Salvatore you can def be my baby blue..."

Has this been posted before? 
 

Has this been posted before? 
 

you should add Ben Mawson who she lived with for several years in London.
 

From IMDB: The Source Family was a radical experiment in '70s utopian living. Their outlandish style, popular health food restaurant, rock band, and beautiful women made them the darlings of Hollywood’s Sunset Strip; but their outsider ideals and the unconventional behavior of their spiritual leader, Father Yod, caused controversy with local authorities.

Before we journey down the rabbit hole that is the Source Family, their leader Father Yod and the influence all of this may have had on Lana Del Rey and her album Ultraviolence, here is some background information of who they were and what they did:
 





There are also many excellent articles on Jim Baker, Father Yod and the Family available online. While I will be linking some of them here as references, I will mostly be focusing on the Family and their own personal interpretations of what was going on during the time they were active as I believe this is where Lana gathered most of her inspiration from. There are a lot of negative articles written about what actually was going on behind closed doors at the Family homes and while I'm sure some may be accurate, and will lend support to some theories, the writers of the articles were not a part of the Family and did not experience first hand what went on. While most former Family members do have criticism toward Jim Baker, the man, they speak very highly of Father Yod as their Earthly Spiritual Father, enough so that I don't doubt they would embellish. I recommend reading all evidence and articles with a grain of salt as all of it is personal anecdotes and there is no solid facts to back up any claims made.
I encourage every member of Lana Boards to dig in and discover any other pieces of evidence you may find regarding this topic. I will add to this post as new evidence is found with credit to the finder!

Here is the original post that I made in the Ultraviolence lyrics thread so please have a look at that for an idea of what started all of this:

http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/4684-ultraviolence/?p=198053

So hopefully now you have an idea of the Family, we'll jump into the evidence we have. Some of it will be stuff that I and other users have already posted on the UV thread, some will be new. Please note, this section will be updated as more info is discovered.

The Source Family and their Influence on Ultraviolence

General Evidence



Lyrical Evidence
While I believe some songs on UV are inspired by the Source Family, I don't think that all songs were inspired by them. So you won't see Old Money on this list for example, as it is clearly written for the Great Gatsby, inspired by the character of Daisy and written as an epilogue to Lana's Young and Beautiful.

I also believe Lana is inspired from many different things and she weaves them into her own story, either by becoming who she is writing about or imagining herself in a similar situation. She has said before that is in the habit of writing about several things in a song and tying them all together. For example, Video Games being about two different men, etc. So while some lyrics fit the Source theory, others will not as they are probably influenced either by her life or something else.

Cruel World



Ultraviolence



Shades of Cool




Brooklyn Baby



Aesthetic Evidence
This section is about the pictures used for Ultraviolence vs pictures from The Source Family Archives as well as the soundscape Dan Auerbach and Lana came up with. Lana had stated that her new take on the UV album was "Unlistenable" with many different sounds, tempo changes, etc. Some of the Ya Ho Wha recordings sound very similar to how Lana re-did UV with the layered sounds, experimental vocals and tempo changes.

Sound



Visuals



As I stated above I will continue updating this post with more evidence as I find it. Please feel free to post any similarities you might find and I will happily add it with credit to you!

Her male equivalent
 

Tom Petty - Oh my, my oh hell yes, honey put on that party dress ("Mary Jane's Last Dance")
 
"Honey, put on that party dress" - "American"
 
Marilyn Monroe - Diamonds are a girl's best friends (Diamonds are my bestest friends - "The Body Electric")
 
Guns N' Roses - Sweet child of mine ("Bel Air")

Samuel Johnson: "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man."
 
"Man who makes a beast out of himself got nothing to lose" - Tired of Singing The Blues
 

Gilbert Ryle: The ghost in the machine (She's Not Me)
 
Chet Baker "Let's Get Lost"  Documentary - West Coast Video
 
 

I don't wanna sound rude because i obviously don't know anything about their relationship, but i can easily imagine that Lana didn't tell Barrie clearly about the break-up. I mean, sometimes she seems so indecisive, and we already know that she isn't always honest at interviews. Maybe she commits these mistakes in her private life too. 

Yeah... Just good friends.

Lana's "Alabama Year" was probably more like a week-long Deliverance-themed road trip. I assume that many of her tropes are based on brief experiences/ideas that impacted her and shaped her sense of self, but chronologically, weren't that significant. (The cult thing, the '7 year?!' relationship with the music mogul, the scary 'meth era'.) And I think she spins different versions of the same story, or new stories altogether, that complement whatever aesthetic/preoccupation she currently has going on. Let's say she gets further inspired by Sixties' left-leaning music and drug culture, but this time with a British or German angle. I'm sure she'll suddenly have stories about how the Canterbury scene influenced her, or how she spent a previously unmentioned mystery year in Berlin (Bowie style) and while she was there discovered Krautrock and German philosophy. (Because it's Lana, it can't just be that she looked it up online, she has to have been there.) 
 
LDR is the ultimate adapted screenplay experience.
 
And I don't mind that at all. Facts aren't relevant to most art.

Now I feel awkward watching/listening to Summer Wine

Is Francesco the only other #tru musician/photographer in the world though???? #teambarrie
 

Put me onto your black motorcycle
50's baby doll dress for "I do"
It only takes two hours to Nevada
I wear your sparkle, you call me your Mama
 

Barrie is free!!!
 
Hi Barrie!

someone invite these guys to lanalysis tbh

If it's real I hope it's just a working title. Don't forget BTD was supposed to be called Do You Luv Me Yet? at some point.
 
Also don't forget Tropico coming soon.

"I'd flip my hair and make you stare and put my makeup on/And make up stories 'bout my life and put on very cherry balm"
 
basically

This is the question what keeps me awake at night

I think she might be combining people named jim/jimmy. The parts about it being a ~rough relationship~ = Jimmy Gnecco, the cult leader line = The AA guy, and the fact that Jim Jones is a famous cult leader = Icing on the cake. Everything she writes is personal, but that doesn't mean that she speaks straightforwardly about one situation for an entire song every time. All writers combine experiences and situations to create songs or stories.

"Ultraviolence" is the title track of Lana Del Rey's second full-length LP.
 
Lana Del Rey said in a Kulturnews interview that the song was about her time in New York when she joined an underground group. It was run by an extremely charismatic guru.
 
From her Grazia interview:
 
"I used to be a member of an underground sect which was reigned by a guru. He surrounded himself with young girls. He thought that he had to break people first to build them up again. At the end I quit the sect."
 
Then, people was saying that either Jimmy Gnecco was the leader of a sect, was participating or it's a different Jim. 
 
Well, I went a little deeper...
 
It is speculated that she is talking about Atlantic Group, a part of Alcoholics Anonymous, which she joined in the past. They were notorious for their cult behaviour and treatment of older men and young women. The Pacific Group (which AG is a branch of) is partly run by a man named Jim.
 
In Google you can find a list of The Cult within AA, where they show "The Wall of Shame" and the names.
There you go:
 
Pacific Group Members:
 
Clancy Imislund
Michael Quinones
Jim Boch
 
Searching a little more you can find an article with an audio of Jim Boch en 2010 where he speaks at Atlantic Group about being sober and the cult.
If you google the name "Jim Boch" you will find a few of small pictures of the guy, and, he looks so much like that man:
 

"I'm that uncool that I think it's cool, yeah."
 
so hipster

"I'm that uncool that I think it's cool, yeah."
 
so hipster