DinahLee

It's concept, no need to understand

Get the Tropico girls in the thread now.

Wasn't this "Skype Ball" in January 2013? Like, (one of) the most pointless project they've ever set het up. She was kinda... unbearable towards the end of 2012 until HipGate. She simmed down by the time ARTPOP was out but then damage was done. The way she had to surrender or maybe someone would catch her dogs again Little Monsters torture me is real. And I approve this message.

Free Sky Ferreira is THE icon. Winter is coming 🔪🔪🔪🔪

It's all a matter of campaigning, including her presence. She did do some for NFR! with the grammy museum thing, but it's all about lunches, FYC and so on. I don't agree they should push her to Alternative; Her music is Pop. She is Popular. She has billion plays on Spotify. She's backed by a Major Label. There's nothing wrong with being put within the Pop categories when that's exactly what she is: A Pop artist. She doesn't even need to win the Pop field to have a chance within the Major 4 (that soon will be 6 I think?) categories; she has a very broad appeal (hence why it makes sense she's POP even when people think it sounds Alternative but also country while a dash of folk etc etc etc). I really believe she'll have a chance. The competition this year isn't necessarily the strongest, she got a pretty warrm reception from critics and her best commercial performance since her prime with BTD\Ultraviolence\Honeymoon. Now Ben\Interscope\Rob Grant & Lana need to play the right cards. Make some private gigs and ship some of these titty vinyl to voters.

ijbol with the AI struggling with the high note on Ditch That Bitch and the vocals just warp into animal screaming in agony mode. And while I don't really suppot the AI art, it's........ Fun to hear what it could have been.

Kinda Outta Luck outstreaming.... whew.

I have to say it's absolutely random they really decided to pick these ""rare"" pressings and drop them casually this year out of nowhere nn. Like, if it was the 10th anniversary, the 5th... alright, but just dropping them is so iconic idk lmao. and NONE for Born To Die!

Honestly it is fascinating how she'll fuck off to anywhere in the world instead of just living a LA\NYC life.

Starfucker is iconic. Just know the album cover will be a fucking great.

I like the visuals because everything seems to be linking up to the album and they're very well made. Troubled Paradise had a more "Do It Yourself" edge which is like... fine, but this is some professional shit.

The way reading this gave me a whiplash thinking about how the "holy grail" has changed over the years. Mow That Lawn. TKO. Taxi. and now they're all here. EDIT: WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK JUNGLE (ORIGINAL) ALSO LEAKED??

Hmmmm I get some of the complains about setlist and so on because she's random af with these "Festival Tour" setups (2016 included). It looks like she picks the most famous songs and then shuffle them with the most random left-field moments (Bartender, Flipside, Lolita, etc) and call it a day. But this tour is still miles ahead from whatever MESS she was doing with Norman Fucking Rockwell Tour in 2019; we're lucky she's not just spending 40% of the setlist with random covers and bringing people on stage while struggling to sing or barely trying. You can tell they actually put some effort on this show with the Backing Vocals, Dancers, Stage set+up... She even had the whole entrance thing (that she cut after the first show but alright). At this point I can imagine it's also not easy to create a setlist that will make everyone happy so she just goes for the easiest route: Born To Die classics and throw in the random songs that fans will lap it up.

Wow it's a slow bop

honestly I took "Holding Back" from Serpentina and ran. I kinda warmed up to The Devil but it took sort of a long time. There are maybe 2 others songs I quite like but not enough to remember the names and I feel like that says a lot...but I'm also not a huge fan of III. Now The Altar & Goddess... a mastermind.

I really believe Trans-Am as a real title\concept as much as Tropico.

I think my favorite part is the fact we don't even have the original picture (??), just that enlarged and edited version trying to re-write what's on the front.

You guys need to let that LQ picture of a piece of paper Go.

The food chain really did fuck some of you up, hun??? Anyway. Even if this thread looks like and endless vortex of discussing the same themes, I like to participate! Love + Fear sessions had a really boppy and decent album buried in there. Not sure how we got what we got in the end (ok I know "2 main emotions! concept!" etc instead of "Ok so this is a collection on BANGERS! ENJOY xx") but don't matter what happened in the room, that album would always lack personality or just bring her worst tendencies. Edit: by the way, do we have everything from L+F? I believe there's a snippet of "Ordinary World" (?) leaked but no full song, but that's it?? Now Ancient Dreams... there's a lot to unpack there. Especially because I hear the album as 2 different things being merged together; the "social commentary" part but also the songs that were personal and about her recent heartbreak. Purge the Poison & New America are bad (from lyrics to production) while the title track & Man's World are sort of... You can ignore the lyrics and bop along\vibe. Venus Fly Trap is pretty good and balanced out. But the more personal songs are mostly truly great gems, sorry: Flowers, Goodbye & I Love You but I Love Me More are songs she's selling the fuck out of them. Highly Emotional People is a career highlight from every point of view (lyrics, production, vocals). I will say I don't really care about Pandora's Box and can't remember how it goes at all BUT I do like the concept\metaphor... and the deluxe ones: Pink Convertibles is the same crap from the social commentary and I have no idea why people were craving it, Free Woman is useless and Happy Loner is cute but if we really decided to go with personal songs only... we'd be here saying WHERE THE BOPS AT??? Oh and unpopular opinion maybe (?) but Cuz I'm a Woman should have been part of the album. It fits perfectly between the themes, the song is catchy and it just works. The whole cringe discourse is complicated when Marina herself has hinted that she cringes at stuff like... Obsessions. Which I personally see as one of the greatest songs ever created (no hyperbole). And at same time, while Electra Heart is one of the albums that I'll take for THE REST OF MY LIFE, stuff like "Teen Idle", which used to be something super deep and close to me, now sounds... silly. "Sixteen and burning up a bibble \ feeling super super super suicidal" is iconic but... cringe. Sometimes I think she just ran out of things she wanted (or........better: HAD) to say. When she gets it right, she gets it right and I know she's still talented as fuck and whenever she's ready, there will be more stellar albums to come.

tbh I have no idea of how NTMT Copyright works but if it is in Capitol hands and they skip the opportunity of repressing the album for the 10th anniversary and make some easy money (i'm literally saying just repress the original album).............. they truly hate her. Not only the Vinyl resurgence but the DEMAND from fans and general people who enjoy the record and how it has been out of print since 2014................... If it's on her own hands then...... good luck. She did a great job with the show it seems.

I think that's more about lana saying she did 1 take and then went on for something else (but I'm also pretty sure we do have alt. takes for Pretty When You Cry so it's like... lol). Of course they then adjust it even with mininal production, but they can also just take the vocals and place over a different beat (especially something that is so "raw" and basically just vocal + guitar).

Honeymoon was kinda messy as hell and... it was a different kind of messy when she was around. Ngl I miss it. Thinking about when people finally found the title track music video that she casually didn't release because "nothing happens in it".

Lust For Life is probably the most interesting process to take a look because It's the only record that kept evolving and changing until the deadline\release, while everything else feels like there's a giant gap between her actually finishing the album and it being released with little changing between said moments. At same time, I don't know if the it is something that changed TOO MUCH or if she just kept adding songs. The way she mentioned before something along the lines "I had to put everything in it\couldn't scrap anything" (sorry can't remember direct quote, but I believe this is mentioned somewhere in the thread already) strikes me as if she just kept recording and wanting to make sure the record was going to show exactly how she felt at that right moment (Summer 2017), which is also the explanation she gave about removing Yosemite ("being too happy while she's not there yet"). Most of her albums were pretty "short" if we take the story about her """"""""not liking\caring""""""""" that much about Deluxe versions, so Honeymoon giving us 15 track felt like a huge deal and then Lust For Life with its 16 tracks (which was something that streaming was making more commom as well, these long ass albums from 2015-2017) was very "wow". There's the story about it being originally 18 tracks and then removing 2, but we also know that Next Best American Record and Yosemite were supposed to be part of it, then removed, and that happened late in the process (the BAR music video and her mentioning Yosemite in interviews nnn). Then we have Roses Bloom For You (which was probably scrapped early\don't think it ever made the cut, just something she created as an intro and then didn't care) and "4 political songs" (which sounds like something she also created later and just couldn't make up her mind about putting them on the album or not, but with When The World... and God Bless America already making the cut, makes sense she didn't want it to be "too much") To sum it all up; I don't think things changed THAT much, she just added songs and kept "diluting" some of that visual\world that was built during the making of the album. We know she did Love and BAR White Mustang early, then Lust For Life was probably picked as a single because of the feature. If the album wasn't probably delayed until July, with the original May release we'd probably have a shorter tracklist and maybe different mixes, but hardly believe there would be something we haven't heard.

It... sounds like Beautiful People Beautiful Problems, doesn't it? As some sort of "Melody Pass" over bare beat\instrumental. Since we have the early demos of that, I think it's unlikely TO BE some sort of demo but... yeah

We NEED pussy to leak so we can get the Metafiles and find ALBUM TAG - TROPICO