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Does he? I barely remember him ever talk about her. But I'm sure he's happy with the recognition that Bubblegum Bitch got lately. They both should be proud of this banger. I could imagine the label telling her to work with him again because of that, but since Marina boasts so much about her *creative freedom* that she takes no advantage of, well...

Still, it was rather a stupid reason. Yes, her last name might've sounded serious, but she should've acknowledged there's lots of artists named Marina, let alone Marina Abramović. When it comes to all this wishful thinking, right at the moment I still hope for Electra Heart 10th anniversary revival, and then something art pop, dream pop, you name it, coming back to Kate Bush and Fiona Apple roots. Unfortunately now that she lives in LA, it's probably never gonna happen and something similar to Honeymoon is the most I can wish for. Trip hop would be nice too but I'm not sure if she's fond of that sound tbh.

Well, I think that she deems her last name "too serious" and she doesn't like it that much. I don't know if it's somewhat related to her family relationships or whatever, but I still remember how she used to sign autographs even during EH era with "Marina Diamonds" instead of "Diamandis". That's also how she was credited on some early TFJ work.

The original version was better I think. Anyway they ruined Marina so w/e.

I like the album. Some songs are exceptional, but some feel to pop, for instance Giving in to the Love. The tracklist is rather messy though. As soon as I listened to The Innocent, it reminded me of Cure for Me, and I can see it is right after it on the vinyl track listing. But that one isn't perfect either, because I think Everything Matters suits the intro much better than Cure for Me. I'm confused lol.

Wow, what a cute song! So enjoyable from the first listen. Reminds me of Chemtrails Over the Country Club, in a very good way.

We love how Electra Heart mixes sadness with happy dance beats. Ideal for teen mood swings and depression. The cultural reset the world slept on.

Anyone think Please Don't Call Me should have been included somewhere on Fear?

This is much better! Thank you!

I'm not trying to compare. Yes, FROOT is indeed better. What I meant is that I just remember how many people didn't like FROOT lyrics and said that she lowered her standards, which can be seen in I'm a Ruin (yeaaah uhhh uuu hyeah), Blue, or Forget [the songs often pointed out; some people don't like Savages too]. FROOT the song is a masterpiece though, lyrically + sonically, I think we can all agree on that.

Just saying to remind you that her lyricism was criticised with each era. Even FROOT felt too straightforward compared to TFJ or EH. I just wish she wrote something as symbolic and beautiful as Rootless. That's what Free Woman could've been, but she ended up singing the most basic things in her whole discography, and the production doesn't help either. But I still try to enjoy it because of its important message. The chorus just feels so infantile. At least Happy Loner and Pink Convertible are quite good. It is just funny how y'all seem to say that she stopped writing good songs *after* FROOT. At least one can say that she improved her writing after L+F because ADIAML both lyricism and production feels more like the original Marina we have known than previously, and at least that's a good sign. This would've been a wonderful era but for those breakup ballads about that ginger shithead, that's it. If she needed more inspiration, she could've worked with other musicians just like she initially planned. Imagine a Florence, Lana, Charli, Banks, Tove Lo, Allie, Paloma Faith, or Lily Allen collab about problems that they all face because they're women. Well, at least we got something from Tove Lo on that remix but couldn't they both make a song together? It makes no sense lol.

She looks really cute there but for f**k's sake, the editing seriously made it feel like a video to a silly song for children about school problems or something. I am honestly afraid that she and her team are stuck in the way of thinking that the majority of her audience consists of young teenagers.

Just listened and Pink Convertible is amazing. Definitely should've made to the original tracklist. Would've completed the theme so, so well. Free Woman does feel like a bonus track but it is good. So happy for this rerelease.

Hate to think that this pop girl everyone laughed at released an excellent album that destroyed many of my favourites'.

It's safer to say she contributed a lot to art pop and music experimentalism.

In Marina's case it's simply willingness. She promised TFJ 2.0, she gave up on it to work on EH. She promised EH complete edition, she gave up on it 'cus she was fed up w/ Electra. She promised FROOT deluxe, but later she had personal problems and abandoned the idea. No one asked her about L+F Acoustic but she made it just because she knew so much of her fanbase didn't enjoy the record. Now with ADIAML she carried out her promise of the deluxe for the very first time.

Venus Fly Trap is as good as Oh No! or Primadonna. Man's World is as good as I'm a Ruin or Teen Idle. We now just have to wait for something on the Froot level. Can Marina do an art pop album already?

It must be fake. Also it's terrible.

In my imagination the breakup ballads constitute an individual EP called Pandora's Box and the album has more songs with collabs as she promised initially, lol. By the way, it's kinda strange how Marina mixes up her album themes, same way she did on L+F by adding flamenco/tropical "enjoy ur life luv" vibe to a cold electronic sound, slightly reminiscent of Ray of Light, about being unsure of love. The latter should've been an album, and the rest a "Lefkada" EP or something too.

Well yes, it has the least amount of plays on Spotify too. It took a while until it grew on me. As for her songwriting, well, it's changed A LOT since TFJ/EH, but the thing is, she's always been like that, singing about how miserable she was/is etc., YET the thing that saved such clumsy at times lyricisim was the interesting production. Imagine The Outsider as a piano ballad lol. And this is more or less what Happy Loner is.

Electra Heart actually had so much single material... If I had to choose just a few songs for singles I swear I would never know which ones to pick. Apart from Hypocrates. Everyone agrees it's the weakest one on the record lol.

One of her best songs. Ever. Literally. Love it so much. I'm sad that depressed Gen Z TikTokers didn't make it go viral LOL.

Agree, her quality is really inconsistent these days. That verse from Flowers was really perfect. The rest is so basic it hurts. She used to be such a good lyricist and she STILL can write good lyrics, she just lowered her sights. Imagine the power New America would have if she didn't say "ok whatever, i'm done" suddenly.

I think ADIAML would've been much better without all those breakup songs like Pandora's Box or I Love You But I Love Me More. They're quite forgettable and do not fit the album theme at all. I understand that she wanted to express her feelings about her ex boyfriend but she could've released an EP with them instead. Also who feels like listening to an album that's about fighting patriarchy and then suddenly crying over an ex? There were so many important feminist / ecology / anti-patriarchy / anticapitalist / gender roles themes to explore and we only got a few songs about it. And really, if she thinks that singing "I'mma free, I'mma free womaaaaaan" in a deluxe will do this record any justice, she's wrong. I hope, however, that this song is not as hollow as it seems. Anyway, I still come back to Ancient Dreams, Venus Fly Trap, Man's World and Highly Emotional People. What great tunes. EH ≥ TFJ > FROOT >> ADIAML >> L+F