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FROOT was #8 on Billboard US even amid the album leak and uncommercial singles. Her career is messy as heck.

It was not. She now says it was but that's not true. She was really thinking about the collab album and later she said it did not work because of COVID restrictions or something, I remember it vaguely. Also Banks or someone said they were indeed talking. Anyway right now Marina doesn't care so whatever... which is stupid 'cause remixes are not made by her so she could still chill in Chile Mexico sipping her champagne. I don't know honestly what's going on. She really does not care at all. For St. Vincent, I highly doubt she would be interested, but Allie X, Melanie, Rina, Polachek, Allen -- sure. Here is Marina working with whom nobody asked her for, like Clean Bandit or that If I Left the World thing. Amazing, truly... And she also said that she's reaching out to artists that her fans listen to? Is she or her team on crack or what?

Exactly. As good as the album is, I still wish she made it mostly about the sociopolitics and welcomed female collaborations just as she promised to tell the whole story. This feels like two different EPs wrapped in one rather weak conceptually album. Also the way she ditched the project now, lol?

Thanks for the reminder, but I wrote that not knowing when that happened lol! It's not like I visited their Instagram pages everyday and kept wondering whether they follow each other or no. I personally don't care much if they're friends or not, but let's just be clear.

We can assume Marina got distant from Lana but still, as I said, it is unknown when and why exactly that happened. I myself had a theory that she was hanging out with Lana just because she was so unsure of her career and music industry after the hiatus, so she wanted to feel more inspired or something and please her fans a bit. However, it makes little sense because 1) she met Florence and FKA twigs with Lana, so it indicates their conversations were mostly about music and business (especially that "DIY" caption), but at the same time 2) she met Lana's family, so it indicates they were really close friends. I mean, Lana certainly didn't invite Ariana, The Weeknd, A$AP Rocky or whoever else to meet her family, let alone have her father wish them happy birthday. It is just a sad realisation of today's society that you have to follow someone on socials in order to be considered their friend by the public.

I would like to believe you but there still is no actual proof. I don't even think Marina is the kind of a person to unfollow Lana just for her one controversial IG post instead of talking it out with her, but maybe I am wrong. Still, Lana does follow Marina even though Ariana and Lana unfollowed each other after the question for culture thing. Also, Marina did not follow Lana on Twitter because she unfollowed everyone around the 10th of May 2019 when toxic stans were bullying her and she changed her description to "run by Marina HQ team". She didn't follow anyone later, you guys can check that on webarchive.

There still is no proof for that. But yeah, they're not hanging out as much as they used to. Doesn't necessarily mean they don't like each other anymore.

Girl, basically a half of the already released tracks on Electra Heart are a part of the Die Life. And there's zero chance she's gonna release it so whatever.

I LOVE Scab & Plaster, my favourite unreleased from hers ever, but decided not to include it there because it is a personal song and doesn't touch the love theme as much as Jealousy does. Same with Miss Y that is just The Outsider 2.0. Hoping for them both to be included on her demos album or something. Besides, 20 tracks is probably too many already. I just wanted to start a discussion though.

Let's talk.

Lies beats are too dubstep-like lol... Also the lyrical content is way simpler (than Starring Role) because as far as I know she had to write a lyric for the already existing instrumental. Acoustic version is sublime though. Anyway, R.I.P. her original concept of 15 music videos and Homewrecker a single release. It amazes me how she knew we were all dissatisfied with L+F and she came with L+F acoustic with 3 new music videos and even Electra Heart merch revival, and now we're mostly happy with Ancient Dreams so we're probably getting nothing.

yes. wouldn't name starring role an electro ballad tho that's actually quite likely, especially since she said a thing or two about Swift lately! one of her best songs ever???? never I HAVEN'T LIVED LIFE, I HAVEN'T LIVED LOVE JUST BIRD'S EYE VIEW FROM THE SKY ABOVE (i think of all the men that i could have kissed )

omg a double post pls delete

well it's definitely the worst among all those that dr. luke produced. why did she even decide to let him work on a ballad amazes me, especially since that was not a single. only nowels.

video or didn't happen, who cares about lies

#16 on Official UK Charts...

When she said she was gonna put it on Spotify, didn't she mean a new reworked piano version? So she actually didn't have to change her mind -- she might see no purpose in releasing the exact same leaked version.

The lyrics are way too weird for it to be a soundtrack for anything.

No. Title Writer(s) Producer(s) Length 1. "Ancient Dreams In A Modern Land" Diamandis Flannigan, Diamandis 3:26 2. "Venus Fly Trap" Diamandis Flannigan, Diamandis 2:38 3. "Purge The Poison" Diamandis Decilveo 3:16 4. "Man's World" Diamandis Decilveo, Diamandis 3:28 5. "New America" Diamandis Flannigan, Diamandis 3:52 6. "Pandora's Box" Diamandis Flannigan, Diamandis 3:32 7. "Pink Convertible" Diamandis TBA TBA 8. "I Love You But I Love Me More" Diamandis Decilveo 3:43 9. "Highly Emotional People" Diamandis Flannigan 3:43 10. "Flowers" Diamandis Flannigan 3:54 11. "Goodbye" Diamandis Flannigan 4:42 Total length: 40:??

Well but I don't want it to perform poorer than FROOT or L+F. It's actually The Observer. The Guardian may write another review on their own (they always gave her 3/5 but left L+F with no review at all, maybe for the better lol).

I'm worried the album is not gonna chart very well, considering the vinyl problems and all that COVID jazz.

Nothing about INHA, Pink Convertible or Happy Loner. Nothing interesting if you ask me, astrological, spiritual, production and health stuff. But the concert was gorgeous! Love the rock band and her outfit.

LOL. Don't trust her, she's already said she would rerecord her MySpace songs after L+F but she keeps saying there's no use coming back to the past, rejected the Bubblegum Bitch music video project, and said that the songs her "baby self" made are too crazy for her to listen, e.g. Hermit the Frog. And is she really gonna sing apple of my daddy's eye taught me sex was a bad thing, gave me deviant longing? No offence but as an artist with a big fanbase she should weigh her words because then she'll find us disappointed as she did with INHA.

It's not a shame. She clearly wasn't happy with him. All this mental breakdown with her hair cut, alcohol drinking, psychology course, name change, even visits to Japan to find the meaning of life, let alone flowers fascination, and then desperate songs about happiness on L+F that she herself has admitted now were made because she was failing at trying to be happy. The whole L+F is just her being scared to love Jack and expecting more, but too afraid to say something bad to him, to lose him, etc. etc. Also "there's no heartbreak left to feel, it happened years ago"... And she even replied to a fan on IG during Clean Bandit livestream or something on IG that: What is Love? [CB's album title] "It is when you give and expect nothing in return." Poor thing, Marina. I think it all is really a tragic story. Now she seems in a better mindset and even if not, I hope she finds someone more valuable who makes her feel pure joy in life.

The lack of Pink Convertible hurts. This album needed another track about white privilege of a rich person thinking about Nikes instead of racial prejudice or environment. It would've made a message of the whole record stronger.