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Well I think I'm stating the obvious here, but I remember a discussion on the HM Pre-Release thread about the denotation of "Art Deco". At first, I thought calling a song Art Deco and refering to someone as it is quite tacky, but I've really come to like it and I think it's pretty clever now.
 
For me, "Art Deco" is a Carmen 2.0, so the person refered to in the song is Carmen. There was this discussion if calling someone Art Deco is negative or postive, but I definitely think it has a strong negative connotation. Art Deco was an art style in the 20s purely for decorative reasons, as the name already suggests, and it was soley used on furniture, wallpapers etc, so it's not an independet art style, like e.g. Art Nouveau, but it is dependent on its placement and the particular time period of the 20s. It was not only supposed to reflect the zeitgeist of the time, but it was the "Golden Twenties". Everyone wanted to dive into the wealth and jazz and party of the time, and Art Deco was to reflect this.
 
Soooo... in my opinion, calling her Art Deco in the song means that she is exactly this: a decorative object without its own "artistic" stand-alone value. She just exists to be beautiful, ever on the hunt for wealth and beauty (accompanying ruthlessness and decandence). As Lana says in her song, the addressee "wants in" but she "just can't win." Like Art Deco. Very clever in my eyes.

That's my avi! It's my fave Lana shoot PERIOD. Soooo I agree 100% with what you said!

Unpopular opinion alert: I don't like the booklet.

I tried to hear it, but I still hear "heat"... Like I hear an H-sound and a T. :/ But naturally, I wouldn't rely on my ears.

Unpopular opinion alert: I don't like the booklet.

Yeah sure! It did have a huuuge impact as it just reflected that zeitgeist of material wealth and party life and all that, architecure and fashion, too. However, I would still consider it to be rather "shallow" as it is not an Art style per se. And the ornamental structure of Art Deco is usually really "flat" and straight lines in metallic colors, I feel like Lana quotes this in her song as well ("gunmetal"). But that's of course my opinion.    
That's exactly what I was saying, I think Lana just wanted to use the term "Art Deco" as it's nnot been done / used like this in any song that I know of at least.
 
And also, I don't think this song is about Azelia Banks or anyone else in particular. I think that would be too far of a stretch. If it is about anyone, it's about "Carmen" imo.

I realize the more I listen to Honeymoon, I somehow start liking Ultraviolence way more.
 
 
Its strange, Ultraviolence used to mysteriously put me to sleep when I would listen to it 

West Coast and Shades of Cool are my fav Lana videos

Honestly I feel like-- even just through the snippets I've heard, the HM album lacks substance. It's bored, puts me to sleep.

Unpopular opinion alert: I don't like the booklet.

I can relate so much to Religion
 
"When I'm down on my knees, you're how I pray" 

Anyone know what she's saying before "tangerine dreams"??
 
 
Also, does anyone know what the man sampled in the beginning says, or what kind of sample it is??

Born To Die had Nancy Sinatra x Lolita vocals, dramatic orchestra x hip hop beats, samples and e-drums, romance x tragedy ... all of these combinations made it very diversive and iconic.
Paradise had this power of evoking many emotions with each of it songs, it sounded like desire, loneliness, fragility and happiness ...
Ultraviolence is almost concept album-esque, with all it's dark yet summery vibes. It has a very raw and emotional sound and the lo-fi-rock was something different.
 
I really like the album with it's minimalistic yet very effective instrumentals, the use of more "uncommon" instruments and the laid-back atmosphere. It's coherent, yet each song is very unique.
I like every song (GKIT and TLY may be weaker songs, but I still really like them) but ... somehow the album's missing something to be her "greatest album so far" or my favourite one. It#s great to have Hobeymoon and I appreciate it a lot, but somehow it feels "least special" for me so far.

i'm so conflicted. i love honeymoon, but what it suffers from is a lack of variety. the songs on their own are great, but the album is all so slow/barely mid-tempo that it becomes laborious to listen to the whole thing at once. all of the songs have a similar 'feel' to them. the thing is, i like that 'feel'! but those songs don't get to shine in an album that lacks variety. we can't appreciate the slow, sensual moments as much because the entire album is that way.
 
let's think about ultraviolence. i've heard so many people say that was an album of sleepy songs. but we also had songs like west coast, MPG, FMWUTTP, & florida kilos to break up the monotony, you know? 
 
this is the first time i really feel like the lyrics are besides the point. they are more a vehicle for the melody than anything. she was right when she described HM as being more "surrealistic" and less personal. 
 
that said, i can appreciate pretty much anything lana puts out. i am here because of her voice & that has never disappointed me. on this album her vocals are even more self-assured & fluid & reach new heights. i'm glad she stopped trying to change her natural vocal range. 
 
the album highlights for me are the blackest day ( perfection), salvatore (get out of my head!), freak (hot), terrance loves you (watch me cry), & music to watch boys to (  )

This is an issue I have. I just cannot move on from Born To Die and it's annoying for me. I really like Honeymoon, I adore it, but I just cannot put in my No.1 since Born To Die is what made me love Lana. I get emotional whenever I think of my first time listen. Born To Die is such a beautiful record, I really wish I could get over it, I do, but I just cannot. I hope that as time goes on, Honeymoon takes BTD away from my No.1 and I'm happy to say, that this may happen cause I fucking love Honeymoon. 
K, bye

This album confuses me a lot. I literally played UV for repeat for dayssss on end. I feel like I'm gonna move on to something else by next week, but I still think it's better than UV? What the fuck is happening? 

I'm not ready to admit that this record is better than Ultraviolence. Still isn't ready yet.

I've only listened to Freak and tbh I twerked, I couldn't stop myself.

Ride vid is overrated, Tropico was awful

Im not simple, its trigonometry     Seems like Lana wasnt strong at mathematics. Almost every song has some kind of wtf line. I wish her co-writers would help her to remove them if she cant think of better metaphore/rhythm on her own.

the blackest day is my fav (at the moment)                        

Well I think I'm stating the obvious here, but I remember a discussion on the HM Pre-Release thread about the denotation of "Art Deco". At first, I thought calling a song Art Deco and refering to someone as it is quite tacky, but I've really come to like it and I think it's pretty clever now.
 
For me, "Art Deco" is a Carmen 2.0, so the person refered to in the song is Carmen. There was this discussion if calling someone Art Deco is negative or postive, but I definitely think it has a strong negative connotation. Art Deco was an art style in the 20s purely for decorative reasons, as the name already suggests, and it was soley used on furniture, wallpapers etc, so it's not an independet art style, like e.g. Art Nouveau, but it is dependent on its placement and the particular time period of the 20s. It was not only supposed to reflect the zeitgeist of the time, but it was the "Golden Twenties". Everyone wanted to dive into the wealth and jazz and party of the time, and Art Deco was to reflect this.
 
Soooo... in my opinion, calling her Art Deco in the song means that she is exactly this: a decorative object without its own "artistic" stand-alone value. She just exists to be beautiful, ever on the hunt for wealth and beauty (accompanying ruthlessness and decandence). As Lana says in her song, the addressee "wants in" but she "just can't win." Like Art Deco. Very clever in my eyes.

Bless you for your great ears.

Well that does make a bit more sense then my version lol, however I still hear " moanin' " instead of money.
 
 
No, I hear that too now...
 
 
That's it!

Yeah that's the only part I don't like at all. It sounds so amateurish tbh.