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I literally hated National Anthems's GUTS at first but now it's in my top 5 Lana songs

I don't know if this has been posted before but I still refuse to hear anything except "You take the whale" In HbtB. Just imagine it...
 
Here you go Francesco, Bobby's getting heavy
*Hands Bobby the whale to Francesco*
*Francesco collapses under the weight of Bobby*
'Whale Song' Lana's new single out before 'Life is Beautiful' 
 

The songs on HM have some genuinely awesome visuals attached to them, Lana better not fucking waste the opportunities she has with some of these songs.

The songs on HM have some genuinely awesome visuals attached to them, Lana better not fucking waste the opportunities she has with some of these songs.

Lies - Marina and the Diamonds

smh at y'all forgetting he produced most of Sia's We Are Born (which is a fantastic pop record)

@@evilentity slaying with so many relevant points 

The only reason we consider HM (and UV to some extent) a flop is because of the success of BtD. If Lana hadn't had so much hype surrounding her back in 2012, BtD wouldn't have had so much success. We all know that, it's pretty much fact in the Lana community. She just doesn't have that hype surrounding her any more, so we can't expect her to be in the BB200 in 3 years' time with HM. There was something about Video Games that captivated audiences in late 2011 and HbtB just can't replicate that with its recycled 2009 cheap trap beat.
It's not like Lana splashed millions on the production/promotion of any of her releases, so we can't expect her to be losing money. Lana knows that she's not going to appeal to the masses and, although a little promotion would help sales, she isn't made to sell mass records. She's probably already made a profit on HM, so it's all good for her. It's only considered a flop because it's sold less than we expected it to and, for some reason, we expected it to sell copies out of the stratosphere.

The fact that not once have I ever received a respectful or kind reply from you disproves that point right there. For that matter, I've never seen you post a positive reply to anyone!
 
Darn, you just beat me to it!

You don't discuss though, that's the thing. You argue, you contradict and you slate. There's no heat here, you're just argumentative and want to get your point across a million times with a million different reasons because, clearly, you think your opinion means a ton more than the rest of ours do. If there is any heat, you're creating it. If you want to make my (not actually that) long answer short, I never said once "who the fuck are you", I asked what your negativity problem is. If anything, you've just proved my point because you haven't actually answered the question I posed to you.

@@leaked_version I've been trying to avoid saying this but I can't hold back any longer: seriously, what is your problem? Honestly, are you only here to argue against people who don't agree with your opinion what is clearly the only true way to see things? "Honeymoon is a flop and if you say otherwise you're wrong. TBD isn't a career highlight because I SAID SO (but I'll pass it off as sarcasm later when I'm getting hate for it)." You're so negative - can you not say something positive without tacking something negative onto the end? What the fuck is your problem? This is a place where we discuss Lana, one of our favourite artists. I honestly think (bare in mind I've only been on the boards for ~ 2 months) that you're like the anomaly in a science experiment that drags all of the data down (except you're the negativity that drags the positivity of this otherwise lovely community). Have you always been like this? Do you genuinely spend your time on the LanaBoards (pretty much 8 months out of the past ~ 2 years) contradicting everyone and trying to get them to see your opinion the only way things can be interpreted? Maybe I'm just extremely naive and you're the biggest troll in the history of forever, but I think the moment I realised you weren't was when you told me that Lana was a pop singer signed to a major label. That's honestly the most vague thing you could ever say. That's the same as saying Lana's a fish in an ocean. If you genuinely spend all of your time in these forums slating Lana, you seriously need to evaluate what you spend your time doing.

Good try (: you had me fooled ha-ha you were obviously being sarcastic from the start

You can't just dictate which songs are her career highlights. That's the point of a personal opinion. Just because you evidently adore these songs doesn't mean that everyone should agree with you and it certainly doesn't mean that they are Lana's career highlights, period. Your opinion isn't all that. It means as much as everyone else's opinion around here.
 
For the record, I think TBD is a career highlight too.

@@evilentity slaying with so many relevant points 

The only reason we consider HM (and UV to some extent) a flop is because of the success of BtD. If Lana hadn't had so much hype surrounding her back in 2012, BtD wouldn't have had so much success. We all know that, it's pretty much fact in the Lana community. She just doesn't have that hype surrounding her any more, so we can't expect her to be in the BB200 in 3 years' time with HM. There was something about Video Games that captivated audiences in late 2011 and HbtB just can't replicate that with its recycled 2009 cheap trap beat.
It's not like Lana splashed millions on the production/promotion of any of her releases, so we can't expect her to be losing money. Lana knows that she's not going to appeal to the masses and, although a little promotion would help sales, she isn't made to sell mass records. She's probably already made a profit on HM, so it's all good for her. It's only considered a flop because it's sold less than we expected it to and, for some reason, we expected it to sell copies out of the stratosphere.

The only reason we consider HM (and UV to some extent) a flop is because of the success of BtD. If Lana hadn't had so much hype surrounding her back in 2012, BtD wouldn't have had so much success. We all know that, it's pretty much fact in the Lana community. She just doesn't have that hype surrounding her any more, so we can't expect her to be in the BB200 in 3 years' time with HM. There was something about Video Games that captivated audiences in late 2011 and HbtB just can't replicate that with its recycled 2009 cheap trap beat.
It's not like Lana splashed millions on the production/promotion of any of her releases, so we can't expect her to be losing money. Lana knows that she's not going to appeal to the masses and, although a little promotion would help sales, she isn't made to sell mass records. She's probably already made a profit on HM, so it's all good for her. It's only considered a flop because it's sold less than we expected it to and, for some reason, we expected it to sell copies out of the stratosphere.

Several music videos, a bunch of interviews, and a tour in support of Ultraviolence was "trolling" us? Seriously? You have to be a pretty thirsty entitled fan to have that perspective. Honestly, I think you're much closer to trolling everyone than Lana ever was. 

If there's anything twisted here, it's the idea that selling 2 million copies worldwide can be considered a huge commercial flop (with the possible exception of overspending), I don't care who you are. There's hardly any artist that can sustain multi-million sale figures throughout their career. It's silly to call that "flopping" rather than the natural trajectory of a career. By your logic, any artist that has a world-beating breakout album is doomed to "flop" simply because they inevitably won't be able to endlessly reproduce sales at that level every time. Man, The Wall is such a flop because it sold way less than Dark Side. Bad was such a flop because it's no Thriller. Again, the albums we're talking about can only be considered "flops" if you have unrealistic expectations. 

That's a somewhat selective interpretation of those figures. Let's face it, despite being called an EP, Paradise was essentially an album. Given that, another reading of these numbers is that they are back up a bit with UV and HM after a steep decline with Paradise from an unlikely to be repeated debut. Again, it's unrealistic to expect her to sell multi-millions even if she did it once. Selling in the neighborhood of a million is still pretty damn good. Certainly not "flopping" at least.

You can't just dictate which songs are her career highlights. That's the point of a personal opinion. Just because you evidently adore these songs doesn't mean that everyone should agree with you and it certainly doesn't mean that they are Lana's career highlights, period. Your opinion isn't all that. It means as much as everyone else's opinion around here.
 
For the record, I think TBD is a career highlight too.

Except studying doesn't really cost anything. A lot of the kind of promotion you're talking about does. It's an investment proposition. How much of a return you get for how much of an investment. I can very easily imagine a hypothetical scenario where Lana might have sold more copies of an album-- enough not to be a "flop" by your standards-- but got there by spending so much on promotion that she actually made less money on it. How much is spent on production and promotion and such absolutely does matter. Take ARTPOP for example. While I think reports of ARTPOP being a commercial "flop" were exaggerated-- it was hugely successful in absolute terms-- to the extent that it was a flop, it was only a flop in the sense that it failed to live up to the impossible standard of matching the unsustainable sales success of her previous albums, the label made too much physical product based on overly optimistic projections, and they were rumored to have spent a shitload on promo. Lana, likewise, remains hugely successful in absolute terms, but will likely never match the commercial success of BTD. But I don't think her label has any illusions about that at this point and I don't think they're overspending on production or promotion. I think she'll be just fine.
 
Sure, but I just don't think the sales she's doing place her in any danger of not covering those costs. I don't think Lana spent all that much making either of the last two albums. I think you're being extremely alarmist.
 
I mean, we have like a hundred songs this girl recorded that she sold zero copies of. Zero. And now that she's selling hundreds of thousands of albums you think that's not enough for her to be able to keep fucking doing what she's fucking doing? Gimme a break.

Us Against The World:
 

 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 

they just don't want to remind you that she did wrote some songs for films this year
 
so yall will stop asking for Life is Beautiful. 

I don't know if this has been posted before but I still refuse to hear anything except "You take the whale" In HbtB. Just imagine it...
 
Here you go Francesco, Bobby's getting heavy
*Hands Bobby the whale to Francesco*
*Francesco collapses under the weight of Bobby*
'Whale Song' Lana's new single out before 'Life is Beautiful' 
 

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