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4 minutes ago, champainproblms said:

i hope the whole album isnt just ambient 

noooooooooo

 

2 minutes ago, lakeemmahottie said:

if the whole album is ambient im gonna eat it tf up. y'all need to start appreciating music without words

a schism is forming between the Daughters of Cain :illumarina:


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Don’t get me wrong I love ambient music! I listen to it frequently. I just love her voice and melodies so I’m hoping it’s at least a 50/50 split. If we get lots of Punish vibes I’ll be more than happy. I’ve never felt particularly compelled by the ambient stuff she has uploaded, but maybe that’s because they’ve never been on an official release and I didn’t give it a fair try. 
 

And of course she can put out whatever kind of music she is writing and feels passionate about. 

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I'm very excited for this album but I can already tell it's gonna create the most unbearably pretentious takes on people not being into ambient music and 10+ minute songs by people that desperately want to come across as cool and highbrow. 


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7 minutes ago, TrashMagiq said:

I'm very excited for this album but I can already tell it's gonna create the most unbearably pretentious takes on people not being into ambient music and 10+ minute songs by people that desperately want to come across as cool and highbrow. 

 

yeah like if ambient tracks don't speak to some, it doesn't mean their opinion is less than people who are super into ambient instrumentals.

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13 minutes ago, TrashMagiq said:

I'm very excited for this album but I can already tell it's gonna create the most unbearably pretentious takes on people not being into ambient music and 10+ minute songs by people that desperately want to come across as cool and highbrow. 

THIS. don't come at me if i don't correctly appreciate the subtle buzzing sound at 13:06 in Pulldrone :bye:


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is the new album ambient music in a way that it's all 100% instrumental or the music in the slow ambient genre where she also sings?

 

because if it's 100% instrumental I understand because the album wasn't supposed to follow the "ethel cain" storyline from preachers daughter if i remember correctly


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1 minute ago, Embach said:

is the new album ambient music in a way that it's all 100% instrumental or the music in the slow ambient genre where she also sings?

 

because if it's 100% instrumental I understand because it doesn't follow the "ethel cain" storyline from preachers daughter

No it’ll have vocals

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2 hours ago, jimmyjimmycocoapuff said:

 

 Housofpsychoticwomn-  ambient, spoken lyrics

Pulldrone - pretty sure it’s ambient, drone is an ambient genre, and she described the word on her tumblr

Amber Waves - vocals and lyrics, very slowcore and atmospheric 

 

And off we alr have Punish, which does have lyrics, a slow burn but still feels like a song 

 

I feel like there may be another ambient track in the 5 we don’t know about, but there’ll probably be another song that isn’t completely instrumental. 

 

 

judging by what ppl have said there's 3 ambient tracks and 1 with a long ambient outro, pulldrone 100% feels like one of those

 

1 hour ago, champainproblms said:

why make an official resease for an ambient album 😭

because ambient is a genre like any other. i understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea, i also prefer her tracks with lyrics, but i think dismissing it like this is worse than anyone being pretentious :crossed:

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1 hour ago, Disx said:

 

4 hours ago, jimmyjimmycocoapuff said:

 

 Housofpsychoticwomn-  ambient, spoken lyrics

Pulldrone - pretty sure it’s ambient, drone is an ambient genre, and she described the word on her tumblr

Amber Waves - vocals and lyrics, very slowcore and atmospheric 

 

And off we alr have Punish, which does have lyrics, a slow burn but still feels like a song 

 

I feel like there may be another ambient track in the 5 we don’t know about, but there’ll probably be another song that isn’t completely instrumental. 

 

 

judging by what ppl have said there's 3 ambient tracks and 1 with a long ambient outro, pulldrone 100% feels like one of those

 

Where did u hear this? Like an insider or just people speculating

 

1 hour ago, Disx said:

because ambient is a genre like any other. i understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea, i also prefer her tracks with lyrics, but i think dismissing it like this is worse than anyone being pretentious :crossed:

No literally, people release ambient albums all the time

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3 hours ago, champainproblms said:

why make an official resease for an ambient album 😭

what is the point of this question... 

2 hours ago, Disx said:

because ambient is a genre like any other. i understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea, i also prefer her tracks with lyrics, but i think dismissing it like this is worse than anyone being pretentious :crossed:

Clock that tea!


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35 minutes ago, Ethel Cain said:

Where did u hear this? Like an insider or just people speculating

Housofpsychoticwomn and Amber Waves have alr been performed/released, and Pulldrone is just speculation, but I'd bet on it being a drone track :smokes:

*edit: I didn't realize that you were quoting the other user, nvm  :runs: *


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Some ambient albums that I think every daughter of cain should listen to whilst we wait for Perverts

 

  • Narrowing Type - Good Night & Good Morning (Ethel called them the best band in the world, recently preformed a shorter version of Punish live with them, their music is all lively composed. 10/10 album imo. It's rich, airy and beautiful)
  • Inca Ore/Grouper - Grouper & Inca Ore (Collab album by Inca Ore and Ethel's fave ambient artist oat; Grouper. Echoey dark folk)
  • they are never coming back - Wulven (Dark-ish drone record, Ethel toured with this band. I Have Seen The End and It Is Beautiful was in her top 3 fave albums of 2022)
  • The Body Lovers - The Body Lovers (Michael Gira side project following what was formally the breakup of his main band Swans. Similiar to "Soundtracks For The Blind", intended to be the final Swans album released a few years before TBL project. SFTB also is one of the greatest albums of all time.)
  • The Winter Ray - Natural Snow Buildings (I think the majority of NSB's very long catalogue would appeal to a lot of fans of Ethel, this album is one of their best albums. Very cold and eerie. Off topic but if anyone wants to get into NSB's other albums I made a tracker for archive purposes that's pretty much got all the information on their albums. Ghost Folks is another recommendation I have for Ethel Cain )
  • Purge - Crystallisee (not rlly drone music but it's a very dark ambient album. like darkly textured horror music almost.)
  • Against The Wood, Opposed To Flesh - KAVARI (Ethel is a massive fan of KAVARI, Glasgow DJ who does dark edm and hard bass as well as ambient. Last year she released her debut album which was recorded in the span of 3 days. truly spooky shit)

 

If anyone wants more lmk!


SOPHIE • ARCA • SKY FERREIRA • YEULE • CHARLI XCX • WILL TOLEDO • JAMIE STEWART • CHELSEA WOLFE • YUNG LEAN • ECCO2K • NATURAL SNOW BUILDINGS • EARTHEATER • FIONA APPLE • BJÖRK • ANNA VON HAUSSWOLFF • KRISTIN MICHAEL HAYTER • RICHARD D JAMES • DEADMAU5 • MICHAEL GIRA • LIZ PHAIR • LANA DEL REY • TINASHE • FKA TWIGS • DEATH GRIPS • SNOW STRIPPERS • A. G. COOK • ETHEL CAIN • NICOLE DOLLANGANGER • KATIE JANE GARSIDE • SHYGIRL • BABYMETAL • CARLY RAE JEPSEN • PERFUME • BEYONCÉ • MACHINE GIRL • KILL ALTERS • RINA SAWAYAMA • A$AP ROCKY • FRIENDZONE • JOANNA NEWSOM • JANE REMOVER • UBOA • KATE BUSH • SARAH BONITO • SLAYYYTER • AYESHA EROTICA • CAROLINE POLACHEK • KELELA • DEVONTÉ HYNES • WEYES BLOOD • JULIA HOLTER • COCTEAU TWINS • TORI AMOS • HANNAH DIAMOND • FLORENCE WELCH • GIA MARGRET • SKULLCRUSHER • DEFTONES • KESHA • LORDE • BONNIE MCKEE • COBRAH • GOODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR • YUNG SHERMAN • SEA OLEENA • POPPY • DEAN BLUNT • DEAR NORA • T.A.T.U. • NAMASENDA • POISON GIRLFRIEND • TOVE LO • ZHEANI • ORTIES • BLADEE • AESPA • BANKS • ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER • OTAY:ONII • TEAADORA • IMOGEN HEAP • ROSE MELBERG • 

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3 hours ago, TrashMagiq said:

I'm very excited for this album but I can already tell it's gonna create the most unbearably pretentious takes on people not being into ambient music and 10+ minute songs by people that desperately want to come across as cool and highbrow. 

It already has in here :brigitte:


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that take is "pretentious" in itself. wbk her next release was going to be ambient and i have seen infinitely more people repeatedly complaining about it than others complaining about those complaining. who even cares?

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9 minutes ago, 79lipstick said:

that take is "pretentious" in itself. wbk her next release was going to be ambient and i have seen infinitely more people repeatedly complaining about it than others complaining about those complaining. who even cares?

To be honest im not upset about the ambient tracks at all, i really like her soundcloud songs, but i do get why some people might be a bit turned off by them, especially following fom preachers daughter, the album hasn't really been marketed as an ambient record so i think the casual audience will expect something similar to preachers daughter and be a bit disappointed which i understand, the disappointment wont last long when they find out what a masterpiece it is though


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