Random Lana Discussion Thread

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,996]

5 hours ago, vicdelrey said:

I talked with her, she will make tiktoks and contact journalist if nothing move and if they keep ignoring her

 

this hoe is starting to piss me off 😭😭 "tap music is enabling domestic abuse" and threatening to contact journalists and blow this up on tiktok??? like girl. go ahead and contact them lmfao

[jaesana 4,481]

3 minutes ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

this hoe is starting to piss me off 😭😭 "tap music is enabling domestic abuse" and threatening to contact journalists and blow this up on tiktok??? like girl. go ahead and contact them lmfao

the way this wouldn’t even be a story. domestic violence is unfortunately so common. the only way it would make news is if the girl was held up in a basement or something 

[Tristesse 1,776]

1 hour ago, baddisease said:

She has a restraining order but good job letting your fandom of Lana override solidarity with DV survivors.

DV survivors deserve solidarity and justice, not the right to harrass random people who have nothing to do with it
+ How exactly does any of this help her?? Such cases settle in court for a good reason

[jaesana 4,481]

Why did I think those dogs belonged to that ex boyfriend of hers? 

[dexter 2,573]

2 hours ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

this hoe is starting to piss me off 😭😭 "tap music is enabling domestic abuse" and threatening to contact journalists and blow this up on tiktok??? like girl. go ahead and contact them lmfao

this is unbelievably rude and an insane take.. i don’t think you know the severity of the situation she had to run away in the middle of the night to flee domestic violence and lana still buys him clothes .. they are enabling domestic violence as they allow a known abuser to work for them. 
 

[Dark Angel 205,962]

i completely sympathize with her situation, and i wish her the best, but if she has the freedom, time, and ability to tweet and comment about it online, she has the freedom, time, and ability to actually do something productive about it like go to the police, or get a restraining order

 

and before anyone says that going to the police won't solve anything (which i DO get, sometimes police can be unhelpful)... neither will randomly posting about it on social media

[baddisease 18,361]

4 hours ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

this hoe is starting to piss me off 😭😭 "tap music is enabling domestic abuse" and threatening to contact journalists and blow this up on tiktok??? like girl. go ahead and contact them lmfao

 

Do you sincerely mean that or are you just ragebaiting? Since you're coming off like a misogynist who thinks domestic abuse is okay.

 

 

3 hours ago, Tristesse said:

DV survivors deserve solidarity and justice, not the right to harrass random people who have nothing to do with it
+ How exactly does any of this help her?? Such cases settle in court for a good reason

 

Lana's staff knowing what he did, ignoring it, and doing nothing means they have something to do with it. Also DV perpetrators often do it repeatedly. 

1 hour ago, Dark Angel said:

i completely sympathize with her situation, and i wish her the best, but if she has the freedom, time, and ability to tweet and comment about it online, she has the freedom, time, and ability to actually do something productive about it like go to the police, or get a restraining order

 

and before anyone says that going to the police won't solve anything (which i DO get, sometimes police can be unhelpful)... neither will randomly posting about it on social media

 

She has a restraining order.

[baddisease 18,361]

If the media found out about this in a significant way, it would hurt Lana. People already think she glamorizes abuse. What will they say when they find out she hires people who engage in it with an inner circle that protects him?

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,996]

I don't think a lot of you guys actually like Lana lmfao

[baddisease 18,361]

Just now, fl0r1dakil0s said:

I don't think a lot of you guys actually like Lana lmfao

 

Liking Lana doesn't require glazing her or defending everything she does or not criticizing her. At this point, in at least past few years, she's done such fucked up shit that if it were anyone else, I wouldn't just not be a fan or, further, openly criticize her off the fan sites. 

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,996]

2 minutes ago, baddisease said:

In at least [the] past few years, she's done such fucked up shit that if it were anyone else, I wouldn't just not be a fan or, further, [I'd] openly criticize her off the fan sites. 

 

Yeah.. it doesn't seem like you really like her lol. Lana has not done a lot of "fucked up shit" in the past few years at all  

[baddisease 18,361]

1 minute ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

Yeah.. it doesn't seem like you really like her lol. Lana has not done a lot of "fucked up shit" in the past few years at all  

 

 

To you. But I know you don't value any of the things that I do. 

 

 

The things she's done that I find fucked up are:

 

 

1. Question For The Culture (had this been the only messed up thing she did, and it was for awhile, i would have ignored it) 

2. Deciding to use Black Lives Matter for clout in a song not even remotely about it. 

3. Marrying a disgusting, openly and violently transphobic Trump supporter all the while claiming to oppose Trump and support LGBT people. And following that up with reacting to the criticism by begging fan pages on Instagram not to talk about it. She didn't bother to say anything about it openly except that. But it tracks with her love for the cult preacher.

4. This bullshit. Her team is a reflection of her, acts on her behalf, is responsible to her. Clearly they ghosted the victim. And her manager is blocking people and deleting comments about it. She couldn't have known initially and that's important but her team is still fucked. But I will say I'll give her credit if she actually takes action on this at some point.

 

Just bc YOU don't find any of that important doesn't mean I shouldn't.

[jaesana 4,481]

Lana seems like a lovely, fucked up weirdo who makes great music and bad personal decisions. This became clear to me when she shit on feminism in 2014 and then dated a cop

Nothing about this situation is surprising to me personally

”Beat me and tell me that no one will love me better than you do” are lyrics that come out of someone who is really not quite morally all there

And yet she’s been my fave for over a decade. It is what it is

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,996]

12 minutes ago, baddisease said:

1. Question For The Culture (had this been the only messed up thing she did, and it was for awhile, i would have ignored it) 

2. Deciding to use Black Lives Matter for clout in a song not even remotely about it. 

3. Marrying a disgusting, openly and violently transphobic Trump supporter all the while claiming to oppose Trump and support LGBT people. And following that up with reacting to the criticism by begging fan pages on Instagram not to talk about it. She didn't bother to say anything about it openly except that. But it tracks with her love for the cult preacher.

4. This bullshit. Her team is a reflection of her, acts on her behalf, is responsible to her. Clearly they ghosted the victim. And her manager is blocking people and deleting comments about it. She couldn't have known initially and that's important but her team is still fucked. But I will say I'll give her credit if she actually takes action on this at some point.

 

Just bc YOU don't find any of that important doesn't mean I shouldn't.

 

1. She mothered in that letter and frankly it was iconic 

 

2. How do you know why Lana decided to mention something in a song? And exactly what "clout" did it give her? It's not like it was a big song at all. Nobody who wasn't a Lana fan heard it.

 

3. Lana is a singer. She isn't responsible for representing a political view. She isn't "betraying her fans" by marrying a Trump supporter lol. If she was some sort of social activist this point would make more sense but she's made it very clear she's.. more interested in SpaceX or something.

 

4. This quite literally has nothing to do with her. She isn't responsible for her management and they don't ask for her permission before they delete comments. She's done nothing wrong lmfao

 

4 minutes ago, jaesana said:

”Beat me and tell me that no one will love me better than you do” are lyrics that come out of someone who is really not quite morally all there

 

??????????

 

Ewww this is one of the weirdest posts i've seen on this website in a long time. Gross 

[That Venice Bitch 29,874]

Pump the brakes a little

[baddisease 18,361]

Just now, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

1. She mothered in that letter and frankly it was iconic 

 

2. How do you know why Lana decided to mention something in a song? And exactly what "clout" did it give her. It's not like it was a big song at all? Nobody who wasn't a Lana fan heard it.

 

3. Lana is a singer. She isn't responsible for representing a political view. She isn't "betraying her fans" by marrying a Trump supporter lol. If she was some sort of social activist this point would make more sense but she's made it very clear she's.. more interested in SpaceX or something.

 

4. This quite literally has nothing to do with her. She isn't responsible for her management and they don't ask for her permission before they delete comments. She's done nothing wrong lmfao

 

1. Of course you'd say that. 

 

2. It doesn't matter why she did it. The lyrics are there. She didn't need to mention it at all. Would it be better if I said she'd decided to use it as her own personal prop rather than something serious? 

 

3. She's responsible for all of the messages she sends by the things she does bc she's a celebrity. Her social power makes it that way. And by doing what she does, she's representing one. She is responsible for that. She's being a hypocrite. She pretended to oppose Trump by pretending to be a witch. She can be held accountable for everything she does, including being a hypocritical, vapid person.

 

4. She is responsible for hiring them. For making sure they do what's in her best interests. She's does a lot, personally, for a domestic abuser.

3 minutes ago, That Venice Bitch said:

Pump the brakes a little

 

Gotcha. My last post was posted before I saw this.

[Rita Hayworth 390]

Reading this thread I’ve been having some thoughts. Please don’t take this the wrong way.

 

Why is it so bad to criticise Lana? Is she exempt from occasionally making wrong decisions because she is incredibly talented or because she’s our favourite singer? No. She can still do questionable things, and she can be criticised for the problematic behaviour of people she chooses to surround herself with. There’s a clear pattern that has been going on recently. 
 

Lana has stopped engaging as much with her fandom, and probably rightly so. She needs to protect her mental health, her privacy and dignity. When every single thing you say publicly/online gets so heavily scrutinised and twisted, I don’t blame her for not wanting to speak out much on this topic. 
However all this does is give way to speculation. There’s this theory called Occam’s razor which suggests the simplest explanation to events, is usually the most likely one. Sadly the situation here is that we are left to consider, does Lana really just share all the same right wing values of her partner, or does she just simply does not care what political side he aligns himself with because she is blindly in love. But I’ve read so much convoluted gibberish in Thais thread and I just don’t see much point in speculating. 
 

I guess we will never know, she doesn’t owe us an explanation either. So I’ve come to believe there’s not much point in holding her to any expectations. Just enjoy the art. 

[baddisease 18,361]

2 minutes ago, Rita Hayworth said:

Reading this thread I’ve been having some thoughts. Please don’t take this the wrong way.

 

Why is it so bad to criticise Lana? Is she exempt from occasionally making wrong decisions because she is incredibly talented or because she’s our favourite singer? No. She can still do questionable things, and she can be criticised for the problematic behaviour of people she chooses to surround herself with. There’s a clear pattern that has been going on recently. 
 

Lana has stopped engaging as much with her fandom, and probably rightly so. She needs to protect her mental health, her privacy and dignity. When every single thing you say publicly/online gets so heavily scrutinised and twisted, I don’t blame her for not wanting to speak out much on this topic. 
However all this does is give way to speculation. There’s this theory called Occam’s razor which suggests the simplest explanation to events, is usually the most likely one. Sadly the situation here is that we are left to consider, does Lana really just share all the same right wing values of her partner, or does she just simply does not care what political side he aligns himself with because she is blindly in love. But I’ve read so much convoluted gibberish in Thais thread and I just don’t see much point in speculating. 
 

I guess we will never know, she doesn’t owe us an explanation either. So I’ve come to believe there’s not much point in holding her to any expectations. Just enjoy the art. 

 

 

Regarding this, and I think it applies to every single person, it doesn't matter if someone does a certain value. But if you're partner's values include racism, homophobia, transphobia, anti-migrant sentiment... no matter what you may think of it, by being with them and tolerating it, you might as well have those values yourself. 

[Genesee 6,800]

wow this is really sad. my heart is with the victim, i hope she is doing okay right now. 

[jaesana 4,481]

1 hour ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

??????????

 

Ewww this is one of the weirdest posts i've seen on this website in a long time. Gross 

Who tf do you think wrote these lyrics?