2024 US Presidential Election - Kamala Harris/Tim Walz vs. Donald Trump/JD Vance

[questionfortheculture 592]

@Mer @Dark Angel

Ok I HATE walce and I like walz, I'm just angry abt him not FUCKING RESPONDING TO VANCE OMG 

also I HATE calling "margreants" Aliens its so dehumanizing

[baddisease 17,514]

Idea to make the housing affordable: seize the homes owned by the banks and the landlords and redistribute them to the people who need them.

[HoneyDolls 147]

27 minutes ago, Mer said:

Can he stop saying "Margaret". 

maybe tomorrow you'll know

[Liz Taylor Blues 18,699]

debate is both better and worse than expected. Luckily BP debates do not usually matter

[questionfortheculture 592]

Oh, "the people who deserve to be here"  oh! 

 

So only white people deserve "deserve to be here" oh! Oh ok!

and why do I have a bad feeling the "Federal land" is just more native land that has reservations on it

[anwdelrey 9,262]

3 minutes ago, baddisease said:

Idea to make the housing affordable: seize the homes owned by the banks and the landlords and redistribute them to the people who need them.

Well no

[baddisease 17,514]

Just now, lucky blue said:

Well no

 

and why?

 

[questionfortheculture 592]

Just now, baddisease said:

 

and why?

 

bc that is technically "comunism"  and would cause extreme issues in the housing market and could cause a monetary collapse 

[anwdelrey 9,262]

Just now, questionfortheculture said:

bc that is technically "comunism"  and would cause extreme issues in the housing market and could cause a monetary collapse 

Clock it

[baddisease 17,514]

new idea for the affordability of medicines:

 

develop a state-owned corporation that produces affordable generic medications, including patented ones, and distributes them to people who make under a certain amount of money.

[questionfortheculture 592]

"Obama care causing collapse" oh ok! Pop off queen the system that helped me pay for my insulin is causing extreme damage ok!

Just now, baddisease said:

new idea for the affordability of medicines:

 

develop a state-owned corporation that produces affordable generic medications, including patented ones, and distributes them to people who make under a certain amount of money.

Who is gonna pay for that?

 

ALSO POP OFF QUEEN WALZ FOR SPEAKING ABT MEDRONIC 
(a insulin Pump company that helps keep insulin prices low)

[Mer 60,607]

1 minute ago, baddisease said:

new idea for the affordability of medicines:

 

develop a state-owned corporation that produces affordable generic medications, including patented ones, and distributes them to people who make under a certain amount of money.

 

And who's gonna pay for those patents/distribution/production costs? 

[baddisease 17,514]

1 minute ago, questionfortheculture said:

 

Who is gonna pay for that?

 

The same government that funds Israel and the war industry. If we put less money into the Pentagon and the military-industrial complex and put it into something like my suggestion, lives would be saved in more than one way.

Just now, Mer said:

 

And who's gonna pay for those patents/distribution/production costs? 

 

We spent $42 billion to develop a death machine (a jet fighter). We can pay for this.

[Quincy 4,055]

Pretty boring debate so far, but that’s not a bad thing. I don’t think it’s going to sway undecided voters much. 
 

Vance hasn’t come off quite as weird as he has in other recent appearances. Walz is well spoken, but has had a stumble or two. 
 

At least it’s mostly a civilized conversation. 

[questionfortheculture 592]

2 minutes ago, baddisease said:

 

The same government that funds Israel and the war industry. If we put less money into the Pentagon and the military-industrial complex and put it into something like my suggestion, lives would be saved in more than one way.

 sorry its giving un-educated 

 

[baddisease 17,514]

Just now, questionfortheculture said:

 sorry its giving un-educated 

 

 

How? Can you give an actual counter-argument?

2 minutes ago, Quincy said:

Pretty boring debate so far, but that’s not a bad thing. I don’t think it’s going to sway undecided voters much. 
 

Vance hasn’t come off quite as weird as he has in other recent appearances. Walz is well spoken, but has had a stumble or two. 
 

At least it’s mostly a civilized conversation. 

 

It's been too long since we've had a debate that didn't have Trump trolling the entire time.

[Mer 60,607]

4 minutes ago, baddisease said:

 

The same government that funds Israel and the war industry. If we put less money into the Pentagon and the military-industrial complex and put it into something like my suggestion, lives would be saved in more than one way.

 

That is a non-answer. It's a wonderfully rosey way to look at the budget, but the military budget wouldn't cover the cost of free medication, infrastructure, and production. And, the military-industrial complex (personal feelings aside) provides millions and millions of jobs - simply taking money away from them and reallocating them is nothing but a talking point. 

 

You would need to the find billions, if not trillions, of budget for free medication - and there's no way to stretch the existing budget, without tanking the economy, to find it. 

[questionfortheculture 592]

Just now, baddisease said:

 

How? Can you give an actual counter-argument?

No, bc its not worth my time I was gonna type a whole essay but the xani hit 

[baddisease 17,514]

2 minutes ago, Mer said:

 

That is a non-answer. It's a wonderfully rosey way to look at the budget, but the military budget wouldn't cover the cost of free medication, infrastructure, and production. And, the military-industrial complex (personal feelings aside) provides millions and millions of jobs - simply taking money away from them and reallocating them is nothing but a talking point. 

 

I didn't say "free medication". I said AFFORDABLE medication.

 

And honestly the MIC also kills tens of thousands of lives around the entire world, I struggle with wanting to preserve jobs in it in the face of that fact.. The infrastructure needed to establish this would create jobs, too.

[Mer 60,607]

Just now, baddisease said:

I didn't say "free medication". I said AFFORDABLE medication.

 

 

well then that's too vague, you want to invest trillions into cutting the cost of medication by a few dollars? You would tank the entire economy and put in place a disastrous healthcare plan