brooklynbaby91 1,386 Posted September 9, 2015 So fucking stunning. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coney Island King 26,125 Posted September 9, 2015 since i've already seen the footage of freak and mtwbt its a shame this video has nothing else to offer outside of those unheard songs. but its nice x 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LostLolita 99 Posted September 9, 2015 So excited to hear Freak in full. The "mmmm" humming part! 3 Quote Love is a setting sun // Is a smoking gun // Is a four letter word // I hope it hurts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0neyIslandKing 2,206 Posted September 9, 2015 This cult idea has me thinking about the chorus lyrics of Freak in a new light "If you wanna leave Come to California Be a freak like me too" And those lyrics in context of the cult imagery like the girls dancing made me think of how Charlie Manson picked up young girls who were against the mainstream/angry at 'the man' and promised to take them away to a place they could be free etc as a way of luring them into the cult mentality? If you know what I mean? Just a thought 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YCBTB 90 Posted September 9, 2015 Does anyone have any convenient downloadable .mp3's for the mtwbt and freak snippets? if you do, could you message me them? thank you! Also @@C0neyIslandKing I can totally see where that could come in. I think this would be much more plausible than Lana incorporating the Jonestown massacre/Peoples Temple Agricultural Project into these videos (like people were talking about in the Honeymoon pre-release thread). 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovetati 15,299 Posted September 9, 2015 This cult idea has me thinking about the chorus lyrics of Freak in a new light "If you wanna leave Come to California Be a freak like me too" And those lyrics in context of the cult imagery like the girls dancing made me think of how Charlie Manson picked up young girls who were against the mainstream/angry at 'the man' and promised to take them away to a place they could be free etc as a way of luring them into the cult mentality? If you know what I mean? Just a thought I've thought about this as well. I wonder what statement she is trying to make with the cult imagery. I know there's a theme in the Honeymoon era so far regarding female objectivity and the male gaze, so I'm interested to see where she takes the visuals. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebel 3,177 Posted September 9, 2015 It makes me sad that her album samplers always have the best damn footage and they just leave it at that 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luckyonewithoutyou 1,929 Posted September 9, 2015 Going to the UO early release thing on Saturday, I will try to record the hyped songs in full (Freak, Art Deco) and I will try to have snippets of the other songs 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whitman 1,287 Posted September 9, 2015 I've thought about this as well. I wonder what statement she is trying to make with the cult imagery. I know there's a theme in the Honeymoon era so far regarding female objectivity and the male gaze, so I'm interested to see where she takes the visuals. For me it seems that she reversed Ultraviolence themes. For example, if UV is the "real" history (she followed a religious sect) now with HM she's the "cult leader', she is no longer the victim. While songs like Money Power Glory and Fuck My Way are sarcastic response of what media says about her she doesn't deny those things but instead she accepted what they say about her. But now with HBTB video she's finally full of their bullshit and is ready to take her revenge ( again she's no longer the victim). 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoftcoreBabyface 262 Posted September 9, 2015 I really think that fruit punch is part of cult history symbolism, especially because there are several bodies strewn upon each other (out of frame) all we see is the hands and Lana. Another thing I've been thinking of is Honeymoon could be like being accepted/initiated into the cult, since that term sister wives was used to describe the sexual/familial relationship between the females that followed cult leaders like Manson, Jim Jones, etc. If you notice, Lana is the only one not in the sheer, long, white dress uniform that the other girls dance around (swim) in, she's in shorts and a shirt, looking like a "normal girl" perhaps just arriving, being taken in. Ergo "Taking The Kool-Aid", so to speak. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0neyIslandKing 2,206 Posted September 9, 2015 I've thought about this as well. I wonder what statement she is trying to make with the cult imagery. I know there's a theme in the Honeymoon era so far regarding female objectivity and the male gaze, so I'm interested to see where she takes the visuals.I definitely hope this imagery is explored further in any upcoming music videos, or the themes come up in other songs etc. And I've really enjoyed your posts on Lana and the Male Gaze this era, I didn't even think about it till I saw you post about it a while back but now I see it I find it so interesting! It's certainly something I look forward to thinking about in detail and discussing once we have the whole album! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mind Melt 10,095 Posted September 9, 2015 Does she have budget for that many videos? It's not like she gets too much support from her label, but who knows. It might not get a video, Brooklyn Baby never did 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neuf 197 Posted September 9, 2015 Terrence bored me but these other two definitely have potential. I'm excited! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsvelca 837 Posted September 9, 2015 Where's that photo of her and Nabil? Her outfit in that pic looks familiar in the video, around the "your loves full of fire (?)" line 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coney Island King 26,125 Posted September 9, 2015 i wouldnt get too caught up in lanas imagery this era, we all know by single 2 shes not gonna be bothered doing anything x 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VioletPrincess 962 Posted September 9, 2015 One of the girls is wearing my 1st tour date dress aka my FAVORITE dress and its giving me major pcd and general depression 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leaked_version 10,499 Posted September 9, 2015 There should have been one extra song in there. However, pretty but a biT a non-event. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RosesBetweenMyThighs 55 Posted September 9, 2015 so that video she shot in june would be used for MTWBT and pale fire gonna be used for freak i assume? it seems reasonable unless she mislead us..... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naachoboy 7,993 Posted September 9, 2015 There should have been one extra song in there. However, pretty but a biT a non-event. it was a non event because the shit leaked a day before. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prostitutestare 142 Posted September 14, 2015 I have to say that "Freak" ia utterly everything. Lana has reached a whole new level of sensual goddesstry with the song. Can we get into how in control she is of the vocal and how the production perfectly complements hsr delivery? I love her signature, out of tune vocal trill she does at the end of what i guess is the first verse leading into the chorus. "Oh, ohh, ohhh, ohh, ahhahha" Wail, Lana. She slayed me with that. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites