LDR5 - Pre-Pre-Release Annual Meltdown and Discussion Thread

[Wynwood 19,967]

^ gurl youve been arguing about someone whos not even online for like hours, give it a rest.

[Say Yes to Heaven 27,272]

he leaked uv snippets wdym thats the whole point of this, she begged him (allegedly) to not leak those songs today? 

And people don't want to hear my opinion because they can't think that their precious eclipse is possibly not all that he cracks up to be. 

 

This is a forum, nothing i said was false information. I highly doubt lana would reach out to a known leaker herself and act like their best friends. Believe what you want but this is my opinion.

no she didnt.... she asked him to not leak the demos for her upcoming album. She never said anything about UV outtakes

[missdelreyxo 3,784]

no she didnt.... she asked him to not leak the demos for her upcoming album. She never said anything about UV outtakes

thats what i said, i didnt add a " ," 

 

she begged him to not leak things, and anyways i just realized something

if she knows he access to this stuff, how come she didnt ask in their "chat" why, where, or how he has access to this new information?

[HoneymoonSwan 3,106]

he leaked uv snippets wdym 

thats the whole point of this, she begged him (allegedly) to not leak those songs today? 

Tiny, I'm sorry that you feel threatened by the members, and I admit that I could have been nicer to the other guy instead of trying to be rude. I understand what you're saying, but I don't believe leaking songs is wrong. Lana shouldn't have made them if she intended them to be heard. Song are songs, and she "begged" him to not leak any of the LDR5 demos. Not the UV outtakes. She could care less if old songs/demos leak as long as they don't clash with her current release. It's okay to have your opinion about this thing, but it gets annoying when people prove you wrong two or three times and you guys keep acting like we didn't. I hope you understand that no one intentionally is trying to be rude to you, your claims just aren't correct to us. We're excited about the hype of Lana actually creating these new songs, and you and that other guy came in here trying to ruin our excitement. If Eclipse really did sell Resistance for money, i can understand that you could disagree with that. I don't think he ever thought that he was going to leak it though, and also I don't think you should be this upset unless if you were the person who bought it off of him. 

 

Sorry that you get misunderstood sometimes

[TRENCH 15,399]

thats what i said, i didnt add a " ," 

 

she begged him to not leak things, and anyways i just realized something

if she knows he access to this stuff, how come she didnt ask in their "chat" why, where, or how he has access to this new information?

she probably did, maybe that is part of the "convo he cant leak" and i feel that he has traded nudes for snippets i think around the beggining of the year

[HEARTCORE 18,877]

(Disclaimer)

Below i will try to explain my pov based off of findings by not only myself but multiple people using public information. to make it easier i will be going in order of:

Reasons for why i said what i said:

The neros files

His relations with male minors on various social media platforms in which explicit activity occurs

his adamant claim that he is the only one with "leaks"

How Eclipse is not a real supporter

Making a lana fan pay for "resistance" and leaking it right after (bad business deal)

How easily people believe everything he says and does

 

 

Well i will explain everything that i know to you. This is nothing new here. Every time I share my opinion on here i get warning points, threats from moderators, insults from people. I never specifically attacked anyone or made lies. People twist my words around, say i claim to have uv outtakes when i never did ever. All because i don't agree with certain things. Eclipse claims to be a supporter of lana when in reality is he? Or a nuisance? he continuously claims being the "only one" with certain songs and how he "found them" himself and they "didn't fall into his lap" . There is a website called neros. (now defunct due to rise in traffic) (because of the discovery of it, due to multiple people including myself tracing the url code in each picosong link of certain songs he leaked tracing back to a online database that was once filled with multiple demos, finals, and snippets of lana music from 2010-2013. This was an active database owned and controlled by a music label manager of "neros Group". due to the discovery of this database (because of eclipse) the site and all other conglomerate sites were taken down and files were obliterated. Eclipse claims to have only found two songs on there in which he leaked. But there were over 20. (not saying he leaked all 20 on there). In addition to this another reason i decided to respond to the forum is how his disgraceful behavior is unfair. He has multiple occurrences in which he traded nudes with male minors under the ae of 18 in return for the promise of song snippets. So apparently someones dignity is worth .21 seconds of a song snippet to him. This was clearly documented in his snapchats with fans as well as his now defunct "supermovie" tumblr account. Another thing is his proclamation that he is the only one with certain songs such as "uv outtakes" and 2010 "demos" when in reality there are three people who have 2010 demos and multiple lana team members who have them. Eclipse claims he is a lana supporter. Can we be real here? he has consistently betrayed her by leaking songs she had never released for a reason in which is no ones business. and is using her hard work and painful past as a failed pop singer as clout for online notoriety. HE has taken advantage of her to the point she herself contacted him today begging and pleading him with "all her heart" to not leak the uv outtakes. yes it is great that we were able to enjoy her work but put yourself in her shoes. can you imagine something of yours being leaked when you never wanted it out in the first place? he is just as bad as those russian girls that spied on her at night and harassed her in front of her home. he is equally as unfair to her. He made a lana fan pay for resistance when he knew he was going to leak it. Can you believe he had the audacity to earn money from something he has no rights to? He illegally made profit off of a registered song he had no rights to. some fan he is. And finally a common trend on here. I have been abused, berated and made out to be the bad guy by sheeple on here because they worship their godly "eclipse" hakan. The a blinded by his claims without considering how detrimental he is to lanas psyche. No one wants to believe that he is nothing but a poser and user of lana. I am honestly shocked that her team has not taken action yet. 

 

 

Excuse my grammar and punctuation, i am shaking as i write this due to how disgusted i am. If you find it in your heart to understand that all i ask is for you to ask yourself,

is this really right?

U need to get some fresh air girl. It ain't that serious

[missdelreyxo 3,784]

Tiny, I'm sorry that you feel threatened by the members, and I admit that I could have been nicer to the other guy instead of trying to be rude. I understand what you're saying, but I don't believe leaking songs is wrong. Lana shouldn't have made them if she intended them to be heard. Song are songs, and she "begged" him to not leak any of the LDR5 demos. Not the UV outtakes. She could care less if old songs/demos leak as long as they don't clash with her current release. It's okay to have your opinion about this thing, but it gets annoying when people prove you wrong two or three times and you guys keep acting like we didn't. I hope you understand that no one intentionally is trying to be rude to you, your claims just aren't correct to us. We're excited about the hype of Lana actually creating these new songs, and you and that other guy came in here trying to ruin our excitement. If Eclipse really did sell Resistance for money, i can understand that you could disagree with that. I don't think he ever thought that he was going to leak it though, and also I don't think you should be this upset unless if you were the person who bought it off of him. 

 

Sorry that you get misunderstood sometimes

thanks for the response, i meant to put the , between my words because i know it is the hm songs.  It doesn't add up how she didn't question his sourcing. how would she go about contacting a leaker who leaked her work like that? old or not? and songs are songs but she worked hard on those. 

[HoneymoonSwan 3,106]

she probably did, maybe that is part of the "convo he cant leak" and i feel that he has traded nudes for snippets i think around the beggining of the year

He probably has, trading is a serious and nasty hobby to get into. It's none of our business at the end of the day though (not @ you Edwin)! Just think about all the producers that have the Lana "fandoms" nudes that they've sent just to get songs from them. 

[missdelreyxo 3,784]

she probably did, maybe that is part of the "convo he cant leak" and i feel that he has traded nudes for snippets i think around the beggining of the year

 

 

the chat isnt adding up people say im not correct but its annoying now being shut up. im not saying anything that cant possibly happen.

im actually worried for some of you to be so easily consumed and assured by someone over things. im just giving my point. im not saying "im right"

U need to get some fresh air girl. It ain't that serious

 for the wellbeing of lana yes it is. 

its fine though, you all have the right to respond, i stand by what i said and found.

[HoneymoonSwan 3,106]

thanks for the response, i meant to put the , between my words because i know it is the hm songs.  It doesn't add up how she didn't question his sourcing. how would she go about contacting a leaker who leaked her work like that? old or not? and songs are songs but she worked hard on those. 

Eclipse said that she reached out to him cause she seen his tweets and wanted to find out if he had the single or title track. I think she must have just been reading her notifications and seen the tweet that he tagged her in containing the Vintage Kids lyrics. 

[HEARTCORE 18,877]

the chat isnt adding up people say im not correct but its annoying now being shut up. im not saying anything that cant possibly happen.

im actually worried for some of you to be so easily consumed and assured by someone over things. im just giving my point. im not saying "im right"

 

for the wellbeing of lana yes it is.

its fine though, you all have the right to respond, i stand by what i said and found.

I mean...the song leaking stuff is just not important. The stuff about nudes, I agree, is very wrong, but leaks and unreleased and all that...take a breath.

[missdelreyxo 3,784]

Eclipse said that she reached out to him cause she seen his tweets and wanted to find out if he had the single or title track. I think she must have just been reading her notifications and seen the tweet that he tagged her in containing the Vintage Kids lyrics. 

thats understandable why she initially reached out but she didnt at one point ask him how he got her shit? really though? i bet the parts blurred were those explaining how he got it. 

 

 

Someone who has access to her drives or the studios she uses are really scalping her shit and sending it to people "traders" 

i highly doubt it doesnt bother her 

I mean...the song leaking stuff is just not important. The stuff about nudes, I agree, is very wrong, but leaks and unreleased and all that...take a breath.

i am breathing fine, but i wrote that to give backing to what i was saying, i was not just going to put my claims without " backing points"

[longtimeman 8,560]

He probably has, trading is a serious and nasty hobby to get into. It's none of our business at the end of the day though (not @ you Edwin)! Just think about all the producers that have the Lana "fandoms" nudes that they've sent just to get songs from them. 

 

I don't know why so many people think that images of their unclothed bodies are such a goldmine. It's a buyer's market for nudity - every person with access to google can spend every minute for the rest of their life looking at nude pictures via google, without having to give up anything. Any producer who trades one of their artist's songs for a random fan's nudes is:

 

a) an idiot

b) finished in the industry

c) probably headed to a prison cell

[HoneymoonSwan 3,106]

thats understandable why she initially reached out but she didnt at one point ask him how he got her shit? really though? i bet the parts blurred were those explaining how he got it. 

 

 

Someone who has access to her drives or the studios she uses are really scalping her shit and sending it to people "traders" 

i highly doubt it doesnt bother her 

i am breathing fine, but i wrote that to give backing to what i was saying, i was not just going to put my claims without " backing points"

She did ask him where he got the demos (I think), and I think he said that she sent it to her label, and manager. 

[missdelreyxo 3,784]

I don't know why so many people think that images of their unclothed bodies are such a goldmine. It's a buyer's market for nudity - every person with access to google can spend every minute for the rest of their life looking at nude pictures via google, without having to give up anything. Any producer who trades one of their artist's songs for a random fan's nudes is:

 

a) an idiot

b) finished in the industry

c) probably headed to a prison cell

thats if their caught. 

[Brooklyn Baby 1,973]

What even is this thread 

[missdelreyxo 3,784]

She did ask him where he got the demos (I think), and I think he said that she sent it to her label, and manager. 

at what point will someone out their foot down on her team or herself and say "enough is enough"

 

Other artist have leaks occasionally, but nothing like this.  You would think after 2012 there would be provisions put forth but nope, clearly someone is doing dirty deeds on the job. 

 

it reminds me of a video lanan took of emile and some other dude while at a cafe of them saying they get nudes from usernames "lolita" and how they say "send nudes" 

 

and she responded "you guys are gross" 

 

 

idk seems like a sticky situation

[HoneymoonSwan 3,106]

What even is this thread 

A mess 

[Adrift 4,812]

the chat isnt adding up people say im not correct but its annoying now being shut up. im not saying anything that cant possibly happen.

im actually worried for some of you to be so easily consumed and assured by someone over things. im just giving my point. im not saying "im right"

 for the wellbeing of lana yes it is. 

its fine though, you all have the right to respond, i stand by what i said and found.

if you could prove any evidence of the "Neros" site, be it archives or screenshots or even metadata in song files, that would help your case immensely. since it's defunct you don't have to worry about anything getting out.

[missdelreyxo 3,784]

I remember once durin another leak where someone upset eclipse and he said something along the lines of "i found these myself, these didnt fall into my lap, i didnt send anyone nudes for them"

if you could prove any evidence of the "Neros" site, be it archives or screenshots or even metadata in song files, that would help your case immensely. since it's defunct you don't have to worry about anything getting out.

im trying right now