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Lust For Life - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Post-Release Threads
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Lust For Life - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Post-Release Threads
Ah thank you Ultra! I'm working on another analysis of symbols on Honeymoon, so stay tuned -
Lust For Life - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Post-Release Threads
Okay, buckle up, because I've been delving into some of the symbolism of Cherry and 13 Beaches... Why? Because I think that LFL (as an album) deserves a second chance and maybe we can find something interesting in the lyrics. Let me start off by saying that I've tried to support my arguments with some literature (as will become apparent), so please be kind when you disagree with any of this I'd like to argue that the fruit mentioned in Cherry and 13 Beaches have symbolic meanings and that they refer to reflections on fame and Hollywood. First, let's take a look at the following line of Cherry: What does she actually mean by this? It's hard to tell, because it doesn't make any sense in the literal sense, but if we look at the symbolic meaning, we get this: Now, if we interpret cherries as "the delights of the blessed" and peaches as "the quietness of virtue", we could argue that what Lana is saying is actually: "I'm blessed to be famous because it gave me a lot. I try to stay out of the public's eye, but paparazzi always seem to find me", i.e. her delights and quietness are ruined. Moreover, her "rose garden dreams" (or how she pictured what it'd be like to be a famous Hollywood star) were not as carefree as she had imagined; the reality is that "it's like smiling with the firing squad against you" and that "you just stay lined up ('cause what can you do?)". With the firing squad possibly referring to paparazzi or camera men at red carpet events. Next, let's look at 13 Beaches: 13 Beaches seems to be a continuation of the same themes in Cherry - her struggles with fame and Hollywood. Whereas in Cherry her cherries and peaches were completely ruined, in 13 Beaches she seems to be more accepting of being photographed, but we shouldn't forget that her peaches are in fact "dripping". It's as if she was saying first "Leave me alone", and now she says "I still want to be left alone, but alright, sometimes you may go ahead and take your pictures". Sorry for the essay, I kinda got lost in my own thought process lol, so it might not seem very coherent. -
Tell Me It's Over is alright. It reminds me a lot of her Let Go songs (also the unreleased stuff) and Rihanna's Love on the Brain, lol. But the trap beats? In 2018? It seems like she threw those in just to seem "current". Oh well, at least she tried...
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Ok so, I've been thinking... There is this theory floating around here that the narrative of Honeymoon (the album) is some sort of 'battle' between Lana and Lizzy (author vs persona), which I think is really interesting. For instance, if you would keep that theory in mind while reading the lyrics or listening to the album, you could interpret Swan Song ("And I will never sing again and you won't work another day") as the last song of the persona. Generally speaking, because the definition of 'swan song' is "a song like that fabled to be sung by a dying swan; the last work of a poet or musician, composed shortly before his death; hence, any final performance, action, or effort." according to the Oxford English Dictionary. On the other hand, if you were to apply that same theory to her recent lyrics... - MAC ("Right where you are; that's where I am") - HTD ("No one's going anywhere; I'm always going to be right here") ...you could argue that she's fully accepted and embraced her persona. Just my two cents! Sorry for the essay lmao
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Lol! Didn't she say she felt like she said everything she wanted to say after she released BTD in that Vogue interview from 2012? "Oh, I don't think I'll write another record. What would I say? I feel like everything I wanted to say, I've already said." And yet, here we are, 6 years later lol. It would be very interesting to see what would happen if she were to ditch the persona. Do you think she'll come up with a new one? Or do you think she'll start writing as herself? And is that even possible?
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
The fact that I had to read through almost two pages of slandering someone y'all don't even know only proves to me that some of y'all really should go outside more. Some of y'all are just plain jealous lmao (I am too, though, but still). But sure, have your assumption-based opinions and stay pressed. If he's really that mean towards other fans, is he really worth it to talk about so much? ANYWAY. Today's a good day. The temperature is 12ºC, cloudy, but dry. -
That would be amazing, tbh. But I do think that she would have to have very good reasons to do so, especially narrative wise. As AKA already has its spot in her discography (it being her first album), and how the rest of her albums are all built on their predecessors, it could seem odd to re-release it. I don't think she would do it, but who knows? What if she does feel like she's come full circle with everything that's she's wanted to say with her LDR character? A new Lizzy album in the vein of AKA would be awesome too!
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Lana to Perform at Jack Antonoff's Ally Coalition Talent Show
ivy replied to nationalxanthem's topic in Shows
Those vocals! She doesn't sound as nervous as she did during the Apple event performance; she seems very comfortable. The tempo of the Blue Baby song?? Was not expecting something like that at all From lazy to Lizzy vocals. I'm here for it! -
Lana to Perform at Jack Antonoff's Ally Coalition Talent Show
ivy replied to nationalxanthem's topic in Shows
https://twitter.com/jackantonoff/status/1070371017934168064 So 7.30pm EST? -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
She has... with Rick Nowels all the time lol I'm so glad she decided to work with someone else this time -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
you put it into words so nicely lmao. I felt the same way -
Queen of doing her own visuals this era
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Lust For Life - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Post-Release Threads
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Can we like, not have snippets and leaks of new material this time before the era starts? Thanks -
Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Ugh my favourite line of that song Her mind -
He's got the fire and he walks with it
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Poor Chuck can't catch a break. Not even on her birthday lmao but yeah, agreed -
Ugh I feel the same way! I used to be a mega stan from the start when she came out back then. But whenever I hear her on the radio nowadays, I just can't listen to her anymore; her voice is too unpleasant. Besides, I think she hasn't evolved in terms of songwriting at all. She still sticks to the same basic rhyme schemes, easy melodies, and blunt/superficial story telling. That's also why I think her "comeback" isn't going well. The last "good" song she made was Give Me What You Like, 'cause she does something different with her voice, and it has some kind of indie vibe to it.
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Queen of mentioning binary oppositions
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
This is amazing! -
I'm going back to Arbor Dean
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I was at Coachella
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
ivy replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
@@salvatore Bent Backwards Over the Lanaboards -
Her putting Cherry on that vid just confirms that she compares the "firing squad" to the camera people taking pictures lol