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Baby Blue Love to Off To The Races - "Will we ever do right? God knows", "But I trust in the decision of the Lord to watch over us"
Off To The Races to Your Band is All the Rage - "I love you forever, not maybe", "I'm gonna love you forever"
 
Dark Paradise to Scarface

Baby Blue Love to Off To The Races - "Will we ever do right? God knows", "But I trust in the decision of the Lord to watch over us"
Off To The Races to Your Band is All the Rage - "I love you forever, not maybe", "I'm gonna love you forever"
 
Dark Paradise to Scarface

You're right! I meant going to tha basics, the antic belief about actual swans singing before their death from which the metaphor is derived. And according to some definitions it can actually mean last work before death; although it's probably very rarely used like this in English, if ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_song
(btw, I thought it was "cantus cycneus" in Latin o_O )
 
And cast aside any boring definitions, which aren't in aid of anything here because it's the way most people use it that matters, and my own feelings, which are irrelevant because the use of it might be different in my mother tongue, what you wrote still doesn't rule out the possibility that an artist may intend to end their life once they've sung their "swan song". Again, the chorus doesn't really say the Lana from "Swan Song" does. But nor does it say she doesn't. If you ask my opinion (yes, I know you don't ), I see it just as a song about Lana and her lover leaving the world they've been living in until now and you can understand it however you want.

SCAR(face)
 
1. Don't Fuck (with me)!
2. Wanna Do
3. No!
4. White & Blue
5. Not a Gangsta
6. Because I Am
7. Ooh
8. Sold My Soul
9. Get Here, Man
10. Fuck

Well?
 
"3 Words" album is good and "3 Words" song is my favorite track of it. I've just refreshed the CD, listened to it and I admit I love it. And I don't wanna be like "grass was greener back then" and so on but sorry, I have to... When I accidentely ('cause I'd lost any interest in Cheryl) came across "Call My Name", I wasn't supposing it was her, after some time I got to know. My point was, IMHO her current music is like any "cool pop" radio shit. Like in "Ghetto Baby", there's no artistic conception (wow, that sounds sophisticated; I like sophisticated words), it's just done to be "sexy". I'm pretty sure she could've made something better out of it, especially having a song with such good lyrics.

Kinda Amanda Palmer. I mean, I'm rather ok with her music but don't understand why some find her so phenomenal.

Kill Kill (The Re-edition)
 
1. Ray and His Girl
2. Love You, I Do
3. Fade From Your Eyes
4. Don't Trust Anyone
5. Done Everything I Can
6. Do You Know
7. In Love with a Dying Man
8. In the Sand
9. Ray Is Going to Meet You

This! She's my fav character of all the seasons <3 
Anyway, I love Total Drama Island and Revenge of The Island (Action and Tour are ok but I wouldn't watch them more than once), Avatar. The Last Airbender and its continuation, The Legend of Korra is damn good too, Danny Phantom, Spongebob the cartoons I watched when I was younger like Johnny Bravo, Totally Spies, Kids Next Door, Evil Con Carne or Billy & Mandy.
 
When it comes to cartoons whose target is not children/teenagers, I don't really watch too many. I hope I'll get to watch some more episodes of Futurama.
 
I also wanna watch Adventure Time, I've heard a lot about and really wanna see it myself. Once I have dealt with my current problems in my life, I will definitely do it.

Seeing all those posts about Lana not being "lyrically wise" (I mean not only the last few in this thread but also the criticism toward Y&B and lots of posts in other threads) I cannot tell whether it's actually an "unpopular Lana opinion" . Not like I don't entitle you to your own opinion cuz I entirely do (especially if I sometimes agree at least to a limited extend) but just wondering if it doesn't turn out that in fact there are more people disliking Lana lyrics (as textual works, not regarded in their context) than those really cherishing them.
 
So if loving Lana as a songwriter is an unpopular one, here is mine:
 
There countless Lana songs that I find lyrically exquisite. To list but very few examples:
 
She's Not Me:
 
"I'm the ghost in your mashine" - besides referring to philosophy (what itself makes the song more profound) Lana totally alters the whole concept. While orginally the term describes dualism in one person, Lana's use encompasses two of them. Translating this metaphore, it appears as "I'm [as a "ghost"] lingering inside your body ["mashine"] and no, I am not leaving". What it exactly means, we can surely argue but for sure she uses the philosophical concept to wrap with it the fact that her (ex-)boyfriend and she are binded.
 
And this intended change of an already existing term smells kinda Gainsbourg-like to me... but I guess that's too far-fetched?
 
I also love how she uses lots of slang expressions and idioms that literally are about death: "a ride or die bitch", the already mentioned "ghost", "dead and gone", "suicide blonde"... Crammed together, they add some thrill to those lyrics! Like there's something supernatural about it... I'm probably the only one to have such a weird association but the song matches some scenes of "Over Her Dead Body" where Kate, having died as Henry's fiancée, becomes a ghost and tries to hold back his new romance. The characters' aims are quite different in the romantic comedy film and in the song but I just want to point out that the concept of the ghost stalking her (ex?) partner fits quite well into the lyrics. Hopefully the movie helped me to illustrate it...
 
I know it's ridiculous to interpet it literally but it's beyond me, I feel haunted by my stupid ideas.
 
Off To the Races:
 
The "Lolita" quote - "Light of my life, fire in my loins" is one of my favorite phrases ever, a pensive and good-sounding cluster of words (both because of the alliteration and its meaning).
 
OTTR is full of other colorful epithets such as: "my red nail polish", "his cocaine heart", "your black Cristal", "your little scarlet starlet", "a soul as sweet as blood red jam", "my tar black soul"... All those color words colorize the song Actually, I perceive OTTR rather as an image than words. Some will say that's kitch-like but to me it is not - it would be if she constantly described characters in the story only by hair color (like in poorly-written fanfiction like "the tar-haired girl said this, the tar-haired girl said that") but referring colors to intangible notions sounds at least a bit fresher to be and doesn't make me cringe.
 
And "scarlet, starlet" is alliteration again, if I'm not wrong? Another reason to love those lyrics!
 
Talking of colors, may I just mention one lyrics from Hundred Dollar Bill? I agree that "I'm in my party dress, he says you're such a mess" isn't the cleverest lyrics under the sun but "you turn my mood from black to blue" is a really well-thought phrase. It uses two adjectives which literally both mean colors but also mean certain moods... Reminds me Emilie Autumn's "my ocean is bluer than the heart you had to break".
 
I also think Lana can catch a lot of meaning in her similes: "life sweet like cinnamon, like a fucking dream I'm living in", "spinnin like a ballerina" (followed by "feelin gangsta" and that's why it's aww-some"), "like Jim Morisson", "when you talk, it's like a movie"... they tell more than non-poetic prose ever could tell!
 
Or simple repeted sentences from some AKA songs "I'm in love with a dying man / I have done everything I can" is enough to describe her whole mischief/distress connected with the situation. Such songs really call for your imagination, telling you very little but at the same time kindling your curiosity.
 
I know I'm an infinite bore to have posted my dull elaboration - but I just wanted to point out what indeed I see in Lana lyrics... Sorry if I'm too stupid to word my feelings... I am stupid :< .
 
And that I worship so many Lana lyrics doesn't necessarily mean I'm a fan of "You're disgusting, I'm delicious" .
       

You're right! I meant going to tha basics, the antic belief about actual swans singing before their death from which the metaphor is derived. And according to some definitions it can actually mean last work before death; although it's probably very rarely used like this in English, if ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_song
(btw, I thought it was "cantus cycneus" in Latin o_O )
 
And cast aside any boring definitions, which aren't in aid of anything here because it's the way most people use it that matters, and my own feelings, which are irrelevant because the use of it might be different in my mother tongue, what you wrote still doesn't rule out the possibility that an artist may intend to end their life once they've sung their "swan song". Again, the chorus doesn't really say the Lana from "Swan Song" does. But nor does it say she doesn't. If you ask my opinion (yes, I know you don't ), I see it just as a song about Lana and her lover leaving the world they've been living in until now and you can understand it however you want.

You don't need to be schizophrenic to use this form of narration (or whatever you call this in songs). It might be just a means to express your concept. I'm positive Lana's capable of that, even if she prefers to stay in her comfort zone of red party dresses (which I don't necessarily mind, it might just keep her from spreading her wings). And even if I think "Swan Song" definitely isn't about her past self or something like this.  
 
 
Because the literal meaning of the phrase "swan song" implies that? And Lana often toys with the idea of death in her songs, and not only that, she doesn't even mind killing herself in her art (if you want straightforward examples: the BTD & SS music videos). I don't argue it's not metaphorical but what I'm saying is just that people get these negative interpretations for a reason.
 
I actually kind of feel this way too because the line "And I will never sing again" does feel suicidal to me in a sense: I can't envision Lana giving up singing, she seems to fucking love it, how else do you explain that plethora of unreleased songs and the fact that she releases a new album every year or so? And she's herself said it in many interviews it's fun to her.
 

 
So do I! I'm pretty sure it was intended, Lana is a sucker for religious/cult imagery and the like (I mean as ideas that fit her songs)

This song sounds like a short story to me...
 
I mean, to me it sounds more prose-like than song-like. Like there are some events, it's more concise than Lana songs usually are, it has a beginning and an end. And it was strange to listen to this at first but then I found it just... interesting and different from her other lyrics in some way.
 
And I like it a lot sonically. A beautiful song <3 .

Really sad it is. I'm glad to think this worse chapter of her life is gone...

This little girl theme indeed gets the song asociated with Lolita but sorry, I don't think it's about her herself. Yeah, she was quite smart and knew she could use her body to get what she wanted. Nevertheless, IMHO the song is about a girl who is ready to have sex with the director so that she gets starred in a movie. Just you know, kind of exchange. Lolita did not mean it with Q., she was just in love (she admitted that he was the only man she had ever loved when Humbert found her living with her husband) and naively she took him for someone he wasn't. She wanted to get away from her pervert "daddy" and be with Quilty, nothing about gaining a part in any movie.

The song that made me fall in love with Lana's music *_*

God, it's just as enchanting as "Big Eyes".

Thank you for refreshing this thread, @slang ! Brilliant thoughts on art don't have an expiry date.
 
It always astonished me how, after I got sucked into Lanaversum, I never minded Lana's cringe-worthy lyrics, anal about lyrics as I am. And no, I don't blindly worship everything she creates, it's just that they don't defer me from listening to her music although they surely would if sung by some other artist, even another of my favorite ones. It's not only about me enjoying her art the way it is (which is surely the case, too). It feels like reading a schoolgirl's diary, with hearts over the i's and a flagrant spelling mistake here and there, messily written because she's rushing for a date. So toe-curling but by the time I realize it, I've gotten too addicted to stop. Disarming? Cute? That's for sure. And there's something more.
 
Each and every idea has a right to exist here, nothing's too intimate, stupid, bad, shameful, you name it. That's what creates the ephemerality of Lana's music, as far as I can see. And while such conclusions might come naturally if we scrutinize the unreleased stuff, they come across as impressive to me if someone discusses a released album from an outsider's point of view.
 
Maybe that "roughness" - for the lack of a better word - is so strong that it remains palpable despite all the layers of (over)production?
In my book, Lana's style adds a quite interesting angle to her art and is no less important than her melodies or the meaning of her lyrics. Just like the melody of the words she chooses, I don't think it is "shallow" to appreciate it. 

It's my favorite Lana song and I'll tell you why. It's just so... Touching to me. Although my life is completely different from Lana's, it's always been "sweet like cinamone" since I was born, I often feel I share the same soul with her. So, particularly about my feelings about "Gramma": the thing about "wanting to be whole world's girl", trying to pleasure everyone, feeling you are not good enough... This is just the way I am. And at the same time you hear "Honey, don't you know, you have everything" and you feel guilty about being unhappy because you should be fucking happy and grateful for everything. Well, maybe at least "somewhere out there is a good man waiting for me"...

This song sounds like a short story to me...
 
I mean, to me it sounds more prose-like than song-like. Like there are some events, it's more concise than Lana songs usually are, it has a beginning and an end. And it was strange to listen to this at first but then I found it just... interesting and different from her other lyrics in some way.
 
And I like it a lot sonically. A beautiful song <3 .

Currently I'm reading some book about the role of vodka and women in lifes of Polish artists during interwar period I can't wait to read the chapter about Witkacy.

Old misheards I remembered now:
 
"I heard that you like Baggersonic, is that true?" in Video Games. I thought "Baggersonic" was some video game x_x
 
And I heard "two butts sweetheart" in Go Go Dancer.

Now my life is sweet like cinnamon
Like a fucking dream I'm living in

Derrière les fenêtres
Des vies, longtemps, se perdent
Derrière les fenêtres
J'envie des mondes
Qui ressemblent aux songes
Derrière les carreaux
Tombent en lambeaux des êtres
Derrières les pâleurs, on sait qu'un
Coeur va naître ou disparaître

"Derrière les fenêtres" by Mylène Farmer

(Behind the windows
Lives, long lost
Behind the windows
I envy the worlds
That appear like dreams
Behind the panes
The beings fall to pieces
Behind the pallor, they know that
A heart will be born or disappear)

Lyrically speaking, i've always thought of Lana Del Rey, first and foremost, as a storyteller. Not, say, in the sense of Tom Waits, whose lyrics read more like short stories, and one doesn't ever really wonder if he's singing about people, places, and situations from his own life. I think with Lana it's a lot more apparent that her subject matter is drawn from her life, but it's always puzzled me that so many people take every word completely as autobiographical truth. Almost as if that gives the lyrics more value somehow. I suspect she embellishes quite a bit, and i don't find anything "wrong" with that, nor does it make her and her songs less interesting or valid. I think that, as is the case with most everything, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. That said, when it comes to Lana Del Rey, i'm not terribly interested in the truth and details of her past and personal life. I'm just a music d00d at the end of the day.

There's been a lot of drama over comments in status updates about the line "I'm a fan of pro-ana nation." I think it's an interesting subject, and would like to discuss it here, if we can avoid the drama.
 
While I agree with people critical of the line that it would be problematic if Lana were advocating anorexia, and I see the potential for anorexics to latch onto this, but I don't think that's what she's doing here. To the contrary. She's no more advocating anorexia than she is advocating drugs, drinking, getting beaten by someone with tats on his ass, or fucking your teachers. She's painting a picture of how fucked up she or other girls were in boarding school. The song is written from that perspective, but portrays that perspective as something fucked up.