Valerie

I get it - nostalgia plays a big part in our experience of music, but Honeymoon's lyrics were pretty laughable at times.

 

HM:

"We both know the history of violence that surrounds you"

"Your honey dew"

 

"Our honeymoon

Our honeymoon

Say you want me too

Say you want me too

Dark blue

Dark blue"

 

MTWBT:

"Pink flamingos always fascinated me."

"Hoes with lies akin to me"

"Velveteen and living single - it never felt that right to me"

"Nothing gold can stay - like love or lemonade"

 

"God knows I tried

 

God knows I tried

God knows I tried

God knows I tried

God knows I tried

God knows I tried

God knows I tried

God knows I tried"

 

HBTB:

 

:All I wanna do is get high by the beach

Get high by the beach, get high

All I wanna do is get by by the beach

Get by, baby, baby, bye bye

The truth is I never bought into your bullshit

When you would pay tribute to me 'cause I know that

All I wanted to do was get high by the beach

Get high, baby, baby, bye bye"

 

"Don't need your money, money

To get me what I want"

 

Freak:

 

"Be a freak like me, too"

"Stranger than a stranger"

 

"You're cold as ice, baby

But when you're nice, baby

You're so amazing in every way"

 

"Blue blue blue blue blue blue...blue"

 

Art Deco:

"Baby, you're so ghetto."

 

TBD"

"It's not simple, it's trigonometry

It's hard to express

I can't explain"

 

24:

"There's only 24 hours in a day"

"If you lie down with dogs, then you'll get fleas"

 

"Why you work so hard..."

 

"honeymoon is lana's best lyrically  "

 

stranger than a stranger

 

now it's time to eat soft ice cream

 

pink flamingos always fascinated me

 

honeymoon is in my top 3 dont come for me

DDDead

Norman's Demos is nothing in comparison to Honeymoon! 

But is it because they love it, or because that's where most of the revenue they can make from music comes from in the age of streaming?

 

Depends which act you're talking about!

So it isn't all linear! 

Anyway, we must move on!

I'm excited to hear Fuck It I Love You in GOOD quality this week! It may not be her best album, but it is solid.

The video for The Greatest looks beautiful too! Love her makeup and the nods at Video Games lyrics and how it mirrors Ride in the clip we saw! 

i didn't even say you were wrong i was just adding that stevie nicks has multiple ventures whereas lana is just lana, she doesn't have a band or another musical project so calm down sis

 

 

i never said you were wrong i said 'not necessarily' because a lot of groups don't tour anymore or do small venues once in a while, so you cant compare bands like the stones and fleetwood mac to 'smaller groups' like the new york dolls or iggy pop who has been doing mainly festival shows not headlining tours

Why would I be talking about groups who don't tour anymore? They are not relevant in a conversation about older bands touring. This conversation is regarding ageing bands, AKA those who DO still tour! 

With Iggy & The Stooges, they performed a lot from 2003 - 2008, ESPECIALLY the Weirdness tour (huge tour for them!!!) but a lot was put to a halt once Ron died! Not exactly comparable to Lana's situation, really!

no, not necessarily

Yes absolutely necessarily, it is known! I will use Stevie as the example!

Fleetwood Mac PRIME:

​Fleetwood Mac - 128 

Rumours - 96 

Mirage - 31

Tusk - 112 

Heroes Are Hard To Find - 43

Total = 410 shows in approx 2 decades!

Shake The Cage - 69 (this one can go either way! It was their first without Lindsey though which is a big milestone! If we add it to PRIME, it is still only 479 dates!)

Fleetwood Mac PAST PRIME:

Say You Will - 137 

An Evening With Fleetwood Mac - 87

Fleetwood Mac Live - 66

On With The Show - 120

Unleashed - 81

Total = 491 shows since 2003!

This applies to MANY ageing bands! 

This is not counting Stevie solo, of course! 

btw did lana forget the two music videos she did last year for songs on nfr that fiily and tg will be the 'first video' in her mind

 

 

 

 

doesn't mean that she wants to tour at 71

she barely tours now at 30 something

Most older rockstars nowadays are touring far more than they ever did in their primes

I can't imagine her being like Madonna or Cher, still touring and singing well into her 50's/60's.

Stevie Nicks:  *is 71* 

Del Rey added: “Stevie's one of the few people I know that says the muse is the most important thing to her. More than anything else, her priority is just following the muse wherever it takes her, whether it’s a 60-date tour or new record or solo endeavour. So she’s inspirational like that.” 

Lana LOVES that Stevie is still touring!  I recall her seeing Carole King, who is in her late 70s, in 2015-2016 also!    LOVE IT!!! 

The Born To Die Tour was mostly promotional, unless I'm wrong? And well Paradise was and EP so....

Most of the BTD tour dates were performed after the album was released

Paradise was primarily to support the Paradise edition of BTD, which is not an EP...and it still went for almost 2 years...pretty big tour...her biggest to date in fact in terms of number of dates

It's the first time she actually has a tour that's called after her album titled

Born To Die Tour

Paradise Tour

BAR (original or not) is coma inducing

and he also ruined her best unreleased song. RIP BAR.

I mean I agree that Jack's work pales in comparison to the other people she's worked with but how are u gonna praise BAR when it's flat, lifeless and a total snoozefest while also saying Jack's work sucks for those reasons?

Playing pool and wild darts, video games

Ride’s sister

She’s so gorgeous

not listening to the l**ks but it sounds like shes straying from the typical pop song format, which shes really stuck to in most of her songs up until this point. that sounds really appealing to me considering that's the standard for most artists and im here for her exploring what shes feel sounds right rather than making predictable records with the same structure

How is omitting bridges straying from the typical pop song format when nowadays pop songs rarely feature bridges? This was even stated by Rick and is the reason even Nirvana has a song called verse chorus verse lmao

Imagine complaining about fucking bridges when we might be getting Lana’s best ever album after a year of waiting.

That would be a valid comment if it were true

Rawk and roll!!!

And how will we know when or if she anonymously donates?

The remainder of the 3.5k goal is 2k 

Can she not spare enough change? I have to laugh

Since Lana is woke nowadays why isn't she helping or anonymously donating to this gofundme page Chuck is hosting for her friend that is a migrant and had her house burnt to a crisp?

She can feature the fire on her album cover for the aesthetic, sing about it in The Greatest, but not cough up when it matters?

A true "I'm retiring Cola bc of the Harvey Weinstein namedrop but I will sing about Manson in Heroin" tea

 

Isn’t the “well, now it's been years since I left New York
 and I've got a kid and two cats in the yard - 
The California sun and the movie stars -
 and I watch the skies getting light as I write
 as I think about those years
 - and I whisper in your ear” a bridge?

 

Third verse

its heavily influenced by psychedelic rock and soft rock of the 60s and 70s like carole king and venice bitch and the greatest in particular are VERY rock influenced

I said, and quoted Lana singing,

"Rock and roll"

Not rock

Lmao, sweetie. I’ll quote this when the reviews come out and half of the tracks being psych rock or psych folk are referenced.

Rock and roll =/= rock. Try again

Half of the songs are 60-70s rock inspired and the others are Laurel Canyon piano ballads - some piano rock.

 

You’re doing too much.

There is nothing rock and roll about this record

Imagine thinking a bridge is what makes a good song!!! Can’t relate!

We already established that some brilliant songs do not need them, hence the West Coast discussion! 

Me and my friends, we miss rock and roll

*assigns Jackoff as producer of album instead*

West Coast is the only song who doesn’t have a bridge and doesn’t need to have one

West Coast is prime Lana. Such brilliance requires no bridges