GeminiLanaFan

If there is one, end of June or early July? But who knows with her.

A couple of us, on the other thread, think that maybe the audio book will contain the “best of” both written books. And maybe it will be out after COCC? Is she done with her second book? So many questions...

Or a spoken album made of the best poems from the two other books?!?

HahaUsually, the Grammy end their submission process on Sept 1. I don’t know if she could even submit COCC this year or if they will postpone the date because of the COVID situation. Either way, she probably won’t win. Maybe for spoken word though.

I’ll take that strange intro to NFR’s.Still not over that roll out of a pseudo pre-era

Not very long. Pretty much the same day or the day before a single.When she announces the tracklist the other songs get registered or recognized by Shazam.

I see it differently : BTD through LFL is the first cycle, with the last song wanting to cross the threshold ... NFR begins the new cycle. Plus there are no cars on that cover, compared to the other four. So, COCC (lollll) should be the «UV» of this cycle, though we have a short period between NFR and COCC like UV and HM had.

Red-orange poppies were the flower for NFR based on the merchandizing. But it's nowhere referenced on the album.

She probably isn't. It will probably be released on the 4th. She did the same thing with Hope (it changed a day from the original date she mentioned on IG)

To call her a whore is down right stupid and sexist. She is always more on the «sensuous»/ sexy side rather than the plain explicit.

saw the rumor on Twitter this weekend. And, well, we know how reliable Twitter rumors tend to be when it comes to her...

I agree. It could easily be reworked to have an outro à la Venice Bitch. But since she is going through a heartbreak and it’s supposed to be a happy song, maybe not on this record? But With her, who knows? TNBAR was dead and buried in my mind but it made the cut to NFR, so maybe... if she doesn’t release it on this record, she really should just release it as a stand-alone single, maybe with RBFY as an intro, between two eras. Gaga did that with The Cure, and Lana could do the same with Yosemite.

I liked the NFR cover, even if I was afraid of a very basic one like the UO one.

From her directly, on her IG (You have to go to the HGTV section of your IG to see the video; she also clarifies again what her posts meant).

With a title like Let Me Love You Like a Woman (which should make the cut), I get the singer-songwriter vibe of NFR and it should have that feel also.The «From Here From Eternity» clip she posted on Saturday, if related at all the album's aesthetics, gives me some old Hollywood tragic love stories vibes and I am fucking living for those, as «out of time» or «dated» as they are. Welcome to hell, my sweet summer child It's honestly very intense, but also soooooo nice when you can share your many thoughts on a coming record or single. But when you are trapped somewhere and don'T have the time to comment, it's A FUCKING LOT when you come back lol.

If there's a single... In June or July, maybe? or we won't get any before Sept 4-5 (i'm fine with both). About the chemtrails: well, it's mostly conspiracy theory until proven otherwise. It could be true, but to go with scientific reasoning (or skeptic reasoning) is wanting to have many valid, solid, confirmed proofs of a phenomenon's existence before accepting it as fact. The big problem I have with conspiracy theorists is that most of their arguments don't have a lot of confirmations and are mostly about finding the facts that backup a theory, rather than considering all the facts before claiming something big. Anyways, I won't go any further. I wouldn't want another «off topic» warning point

Not necessarily. Is Mariners Apartment Complex about real estate? I keep in mind that the «insider» interviewed a couple of months ago said she was writing a lot about heartache and wanting to be in love. It could be as well. Something like: «we walked to the country club, and you left me there, with chemtrails in the sky».

Chemtrails Over the Country Club reminds me a lot of Mariners Apartment Complex as a quirky and unusual title.

Agree to disagree on that one. I am in the “pro-Jack camp” mainly because he won me over with his versatility when Mariners and Venice came out. His main quality is : “You lead the show, I will bring my talent to back it up”. Love that Masseduction (love love) doesn’t sound like NFR or Melodrama (liked) or Taylor’s albums (not a big fan of pure pop).

There are going to be “end of the world vibes” on that one, I can feel it (@ la the greatest). Plus isn’t it how we all feel at the moment, like we all have our comfortable lives but they’re all shook to the core? And the country club, though still existent today, really are something out of the 50s-60s. I love that woman and her references to the past.

True, Or a very thoughtful album. Maybe this is why she will do pretty much no promo: it’s not a very pop / accessible album?!?

It’s the place where rich people used to gather to play tennis, socialize and have a drink. It’s very select. To juxtapose chemtrails (danger) to country club (leisure, privilege, riches, nonchalance) is pure brilliance.

Don’t know yet what chemtrails are for sure, but it’s a punchier title than WHF. Love the title for a song, but after NFR’s sass, we needed a better and punchier title, which it is. There is a sense of “danger” in the title, which we all feel at the moment (though not caused by “evil governments wanting to dispose of poisonous wastes in the atmosphere” - I just looked up what chemtrails were ans their conspiracy theorists’ allusion).

Agree with you on the teasing of the second book. It’s a superb poem for sure, but it kinda confused me: I thought Violet would be audio and Iron Gates would be released on written form?!? Will Violet and Iron Gates be released together on audio form, as a double feature, with physical copies later on?!? I am really looking forward for the audio book now... I love the subtle music in the background.

These spoken poems with music do give me strong Greenwich Village in the 60s kinda vibe. Poetry night, Beatnik generation... I always loved her homage to the past, and this project is no exception.