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I'll reserve most of my opinions for the post-release thread, but I appreciate Long Song a little more in HQ. I still believe the lyrics could've been stronger though. Currently listening to TNBAR and the new lyrics don't bother me as much anymore. So far the album is really flowing well.

They accidentally placed a different version (demo?) of FIILY but I ain't complaining. It fits this era's messiness, and at least we won't get teased of its existence from people who leak shit in the future.

They cropped it so strangely, but I think it’s so her hand and face wouldn’t be cropped off if they put it in the center... but it could’ve been an image of a portion of the painted background surrounding them... idk.

“I’ve been told”, but by who? Mmm, I won’t believe it until there’s a legitimate source or Lana herself saying it.

VB is definitely an amazing track for long drives and scenic views. Stellar. Even though I love almost all the songs, California is currently my favorite and I can’t wait to hear it in HQ. My least favorite is Love Song atm. I’m going to give it another chance once it’s in HQ quality obviously, but I think it’s the first track by Lana that kind of... underwhelmed... or bored me? Idk we’ll see.

Some people speculated it was Lorde since she criticized her back in 2013 saying that Lana’s music wasn’t good (in terms of self-image and perception of how relationships are supposed to be) for young people to listen to. Then a year later, when Lana is asked about FMWUTTT she says in Grazia magazine, “It’s about a singer who first sneered about my allegedly not authentic style but later she stole and copied it. And now she’s acting like I am the art project and she the true super artist. My God and people actually believe her, she’s successful! I shouldn’t continue ranting, it doesn’t get anywhere.” So people were connecting the two, but they had so many other theories because people heard her influence in songwriting in up and coming artists during that time and the lyrics are so vague tbh. Funny that you mention Halsey- I heard she criticized Lana in an interview (can’t find it or remember when) which I found ironic because before then she used to make it obvious she was a fan (singing covers of Lana’s songs before she got famous) and you could hear some influence when she released her first album (some lyrics and the production) and she’s also been accused of ripping off other people. I think even Sky Ferreira shaded her for Ghost- or maybe that was more shade @ the label because she kind of implied they were trying to market someone more marketable to replace her. But overall- back to the song- who knows who it’s about...

Okay, so I'm unsure of where to post this- but maybe I'll just start the discussion here: So, I was watching this video about Robyn- her career and influence in the music industry (a really good video, I recommend watching the whole thing!). Interesting information came up concerning the artists who work with Max Martin (Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift etc.). Apparently there were times where artists would come to producers asking them to help them sound like her. You can listen to that part starting at 16:25... https://youtu.be/A37w5qcShyM?t=985 This one producer Robyn was working with said, "So whenever I have a female artist come into my studio, they usually put your album on the table and they're like: 'I wanna make this!'" The guy who made the video then explains how songs by these artists sound like a "diet version" of Robyn's songs. So yesterday, I kept reading a lot of comments not only here but on other forums saying that Taylor Swift's new songs sound a bit more like something Lana would have written or sung. Now, I'm bringing this up here because I don't want Swifties on my ass- it's just a theory... What if this isn't a coincidence? What if what happened to Robyn is happening to Lana to a certain extent? I mean, she is getting more recognition now but artists who sound a bit too familiar to her music style has been a nagging not-as-spoken-enough issue for me for quite a few years now. What if Lana's style of writing, singing, producing is being intentionally implemented into Taylor's music? Idk where I'm going with this, I mean obviously FMWUTT shows that Lana is aware of some artists who secretly try to steal her style and it bothers her. But I wonder how'd she'd feel if this was happening behind the scenes by a fan of hers (Taylor). And yeah, granted Taylor’s also working with Jack but I feel like this issue preceded his work with her (Wildest Dreams anyone? which was also produced by Max Martin )

I tend to see it as more good promotion for the album, and maybe a higher chance at winning an award. Like the more praise she receives, the more recognition and awards she receives, and that to me means more respect in the industry. Btw when she mentioned it’s so much easier now to do her work because of how eclectic artists are now and they don’t have to be talked down to when they release “sad” songs, I wish Annie explored that more and mentioned she contributed a lot to that progression. But hey, I feel like with the more positive criticism she gets over the years, it’s a step forward in receiving the credit she deserves. It’s not the end-all, be-all but it definitely helps.

I have this theory on Taylor concerning that, but I’ll save it for the Random Discussions thread~ but back on topic- of all the beauty that comes from the music video, I’m so obsessed with the neon eyeliner she’s been wearing. I could never pull it off but I love it! I’m really loving the use of color for this album.

It does, like they couldn't have her rerecord a censored version if she wanted it as a single? Also, I know it's been said to death, but god damn these promotional decisions, girl... She's coming back next Tuesday to talk about the album- but why next week? Why are they stretching it out? This could've all been said, done, and released last week.

Omg... the censored version sounds... horrible...

I’m curious as to how they’re going to censor it.

So in 56 minutes, right?

Seeing those posts brought me back to those Facebook days where people thought posting the long ass disclaimers- “FB (or any other app), please don’t use my information!” -would actually make them exempt from whatever changes they were making. If that were the case, really unfair for most people who never see these disclaimers to repost them. Also Byron reposted it too, but at least he said “just in case”... so he knows it does nothing?... but... lol still, I thought it was common sense that those posts have as much power as those “one like = one prayer” posts. Lmfao

That’s cool, I’m sure I’ll love it too, but I appreciate knowing there isn’t a big storyline. I don’t think it’ll top SOC, but I’m sure it’ll serve her best looks in a music video and I’m excited to finally hear the songs in HQ.

She really loves to troll huh

Thanks for your honest take. This was my worst fear, but at least I know what to expect now. lol

Eyeliner on point. She looks so good.

We should reserve it for salvatore

1. Bel Air 2. Music To Watch Boys To 3. Cinnamon Girl 4. Yayo 5. Cherry 6. Video Games 7. Brooklyn Baby 8. Lucky Ones 9. West Coast 10. Venice Bitch (+ meets fans during instrumental break) 11. Backfire/Wayamaya/Paradise/Hollywood (any one of these unreleased tracks/she could play a different one at each show to change it up a bit) 12. Fuck It, I Love You! 13. High By The Beach 14. Doin' Time 15. Million Dollar Man/Is This Happiness/Norman Fucking Rockwell (piano medley) 16. Shades Of Cool 17. Terrence Loves You 18. The Greatest 19. Heroin 20. California 21. Looking For America 22. Get Free

I think buying fan-made merch is fine as long as they're not claiming it's the real thing. I've seen plenty of people buy knock-off t-shirts outside venues though because they run out of merch to sell inside or it's too expensive. I guess it depends from person to person.

She did a live performance of Roadhouse Blues back in 2012, but we definitely need a HQ cover of any song by the The Doors!

1 day until The Greatest music video. 9 days until the album is released. This feels surreal.

It doesn’t sound like a trip hop beat to me. Look, I hope you guys aren’t taking my criticism the wrong way. I love TBD and it’s a highlight for me on Honeymoon, but I can’t force myself to love the album.