evilentity

While I'm sometimes uncomfortable about personal information people post here (especially namedropping regular people), I'd also feel somewhat uncomfortable using my mod powers this way, although some circumstances may warrant it. I once PMed someone on LDR.FM suggesting they take some information they'd posted down, but I'm not sure if I was right to do so. And I'm not trying to shit on Sitar's post, just trying to foster a discussion over an issue I think we should grapple with. I'd like to see us come to a consensus as a community about what should or shouldn't be posted. However, I'd be lying if I denied that a part of me likes seeing people name names because then I feel more free to share the information of legitmate interest surrounding these people without having to feel guilty for being the one to spill their names. Please be the return of your Kill Kill/Dark Paradise connection.

Discussing public figures like Jimmy Gnecco and Reeve Carney in this manner is one thing, but I have to say that naming regular people she had relationships with and speculating wildly about them makes me uncomfortable, especially when you get some details wrong (i.e. there's no evidence she was more than friends with Chris C.). As a celebrity, it comes with the territory that some of her personal life will be made public. But don't regular people who had relationships with her before she was famous deserve some privacy? I feel this is a far more important matter in respecting privacy than leaks. This can be a murky issue. I know a lot more information about two of the people talked about here. And there are things that are of legitimate interest to fans. But I'd been sitting on the information for some time because I didn't know how to present it without naming names. However, now that these names have been circulating quite a bit, maybe I might as well share it. :\ I'm curious what people think about the issue in general. Should we start a separate thread to discuss what personal information about Lana and people connected to her we think is appropriate to share?

I wondered the same thing. And yet it's still better than anything Emile Haynie's done for her.

Winamp can play FLAC.

It's "stop breathing".

That's what I hear too.

Have you tried figuring out a way to contact the director, Johan Renck, and asking him?

Congratulations!

I doubt he'd accept, but I nominate Monicker.

It's definitely "I'm a fan".

[Later?] let’s do drugs Make love with our teachers Come on, little Tommy With his tattooed ass beat ya I’m a fan of pro-ana nation I do them drugs to stop the f-food cravings If you wanna get high with me, I’m in the back Doing crack, drinking vodka Pepsi ... You’re crashing on Wall Street while I’m blowing up as a singer If you wanna get that scholarship Love's not a problem, let’s solve it ...

You got me pegged. I had already liked it before I saw your post.

She did not lay an egg with this song.

I'm sorry, but I had been under the impression that we were a free and open forum of information and discussion, not a bunch of lackeys for Lana's overzealous management. Thank you for enlightening me. A little transparency about this in the first place would've been appreciated. If you're going to delete stuff arbitrarily at the whim of Lana's people, you should be up front about that.

I'm not trying to be a dick here. I'm just trying to clarify what the rules are. It doesn't help when you don't cite the real reason why something isn't allowed. But I didn't know we answered to Ben now, even when he asks us to remove something he has no legal basis for asking us to remove.

So by that logic we can never cite print articles that don't appear online? And if I include a link to the Le Figaro article I could restore the thread?

Can we post information that merely says that a particular song has leaked on tumblr? Some more questions: Imagine a situation like "A Star for Nick" and "Money Hunny" where the songs had been made available on a podcast. Can we link to that? Or what about a situation like "Dangerous Girl" where a producer put it up on Soundcloud. Can we link to that?

Are you certain that's illegal? But for the sake of argument, let's say it is. Now let's say a music site like Pitchfork writes an article about the leak. Can we link to that? Does it matter whether Pitchfork links to or embeds the leak?

This is really vague to me. Let me ask a series of leading questions. I'll start with this: Let's say a song leaks on tumblr. Can we link to the tumblr that leaked it?

You forgot "Pomme Foraine, yeah" or whatever the fuck "Palmferania" really is.

I have a pet theory but it's pretty fucking dark:

Lolita. Now Monicker's gonna shoot me in the fucking face. I LOVE the demos, but Emile Haynie ruined this one worse than the others. Monicker, you're wrong. You can't quite do anything to this song and have it come out gold.

Why pay the Korova Milkbar when you can get the milk for free?

Meth. Why does everyone always forget the meth?