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EXACTLY.
 
And yet it seems no one (other than Lana's admirably aggressive twitter legion) has really called Kim out for this yet. Advising another woman that you've never met to kill themselves, especially in such a vitriolic and heartless fashion, is a much worse immpression to be putting out to our youth than a lonely woman admitting her own depression. The fact that Lana has made her anxieties clear to the world actually makes what Kim said even more, well, downright evil.
 
And yet if Lana were to respond in even the most reserved of manners, she'd be the one accused of trying to ignite a spat.
Let's hope she has enough common sense to realise that this woman is way out of place, it seriously wouldn't be good for her mental state if she took any of what was said to heart. Which is very likely considering who said it.

Waiting for Azealia Banks to say something on this. I bet Lana herself would have a lot to say but she NEVER goes public about this stuff.
 
The saddest thing about this is if this happened to someone like Lorde or Taylor Swift everyone one would immediately come to their defence, fan or not, the things Kim Gordon said are that harsh, but Lana is always left to fend for herself. She's like the nerdy kid in high school, everyone sees this stuff happen to her but they just watch. No one thinks to throw her any fucking support.
 
Also I must be forgetting the song where Lana says no to voting or earning equal pay.
Let's just list all the sexism displayed in this paragraph:
1 Slut-Shaming Lana for her taste in men and lovemaking.
2 Criticising Lana's apt description of a true feminist because Lana said it.
3 Insinuating that Lana shouldn't sing as an individual who has chosen a different lifestyle to her, but instead sing about very certain topics. She's basically saying that Lana Del Rey's experiences are less valuable because she's a female, she should be singing about how independent she is and act like everyone wants her too because anything less is just unheard of in society (Jim Morrison, Kanye West, Eminem, pretty much all male rappers)
4 Advising Lana to kill herself. This isn't sexist so much as simply inhumane and reprehensibly irresponsible.
 
Does Kim think she's gonna get away with all this?

lol omg, did Courtney just slyly respond to this drama?
 
https://twitter.com/Courtney/status/568953858782728192
 
(Thurston Moore is Kim Gordon's ex husband for anyone unaware)
 

Go IN Courtney!

Waiting for Azealia Banks to say something on this. I bet Lana herself would have a lot to say but she NEVER goes public about this stuff.
 
The saddest thing about this is if this happened to someone like Lorde or Taylor Swift everyone one would immediately come to their defence, fan or not, the things Kim Gordon said are that harsh, but Lana is always left to fend for herself. She's like the nerdy kid in high school, everyone sees this stuff happen to her but they just watch. No one thinks to throw her any fucking support.
 
Also I must be forgetting the song where Lana says no to voting or earning equal pay.
Let's just list all the sexism displayed in this paragraph:
1 Slut-Shaming Lana for her taste in men and lovemaking.
2 Criticising Lana's apt description of a true feminist because Lana said it.
3 Insinuating that Lana shouldn't sing as an individual who has chosen a different lifestyle to her, but instead sing about very certain topics. She's basically saying that Lana Del Rey's experiences are less valuable because she's a female, she should be singing about how independent she is and act like everyone wants her too because anything less is just unheard of in society (Jim Morrison, Kanye West, Eminem, pretty much all male rappers)
4 Advising Lana to kill herself. This isn't sexist so much as simply inhumane and reprehensibly irresponsible.
 
Does Kim think she's gonna get away with all this?

EXACTLY.
 
And yet it seems no one (other than Lana's admirably aggressive twitter legion) has really called Kim out for this yet. Advising another woman that you've never met to kill themselves, especially in such a vitriolic and heartless fashion, is a much worse immpression to be putting out to our youth than a lonely woman admitting her own depression. The fact that Lana has made her anxieties clear to the world actually makes what Kim said even more, well, downright evil.
 
And yet if Lana were to respond in even the most reserved of manners, she'd be the one accused of trying to ignite a spat.
Let's hope she has enough common sense to realise that this woman is way out of place, it seriously wouldn't be good for her mental state if she took any of what was said to heart. Which is very likely considering who said it.

EXACTLY.
 
And yet it seems no one (other than Lana's admirably aggressive twitter legion) has really called Kim out for this yet. Advising another woman that you've never met to kill themselves, especially in such a vitriolic and heartless fashion, is a much worse immpression to be putting out to our youth than a lonely woman admitting her own depression. The fact that Lana has made her anxieties clear to the world actually makes what Kim said even more, well, downright evil.
 
And yet if Lana were to respond in even the most reserved of manners, she'd be the one accused of trying to ignite a spat.
Let's hope she has enough common sense to realise that this woman is way out of place, it seriously wouldn't be good for her mental state if she took any of what was said to heart. Which is very likely considering who said it.

EXACTLY.
 
And yet it seems no one (other than Lana's admirably aggressive twitter legion) has really called Kim out for this yet. Advising another woman that you've never met to kill themselves, especially in such a vitriolic and heartless fashion, is a much worse immpression to be putting out to our youth than a lonely woman admitting her own depression. The fact that Lana has made her anxieties clear to the world actually makes what Kim said even more, well, downright evil.
 
And yet if Lana were to respond in even the most reserved of manners, she'd be the one accused of trying to ignite a spat.
Let's hope she has enough common sense to realise that this woman is way out of place, it seriously wouldn't be good for her mental state if she took any of what was said to heart. Which is very likely considering who said it.

Note how Kim retweets a few pissed off Lana fans who defend their fave, as if to say "look how childish and stupid they are!" When she legitimately asked a girl to kill herself and published it in a book. Such a class act.
The bitch even retweeted someone saying "Kim Gordon has had a bigger impact in music than Lana Del Rey ever will"
Arrogant cunt. And we're supposed to sit quietly and allow her to trash her fellow woman because she was a big deal in the 90s?

Waiting for Azealia Banks to say something on this. I bet Lana herself would have a lot to say but she NEVER goes public about this stuff.
 
The saddest thing about this is if this happened to someone like Lorde or Taylor Swift everyone one would immediately come to their defence, fan or not, the things Kim Gordon said are that harsh, but Lana is always left to fend for herself. She's like the nerdy kid in high school, everyone sees this stuff happen to her but they just watch. No one thinks to throw her any fucking support.
 
Also I must be forgetting the song where Lana says no to voting or earning equal pay.
Let's just list all the sexism displayed in this paragraph:
1 Slut-Shaming Lana for her taste in men and lovemaking.
2 Criticising Lana's apt description of a true feminist because Lana said it.
3 Insinuating that Lana shouldn't sing as an individual who has chosen a different lifestyle to her, but instead sing about very certain topics. She's basically saying that Lana Del Rey's experiences are less valuable because she's a female, she should be singing about how independent she is and act like everyone wants her too because anything less is just unheard of in society (Jim Morrison, Kanye West, Eminem, pretty much all male rappers)
4 Advising Lana to kill herself. This isn't sexist so much as simply inhumane and reprehensibly irresponsible.
 
Does Kim think she's gonna get away with all this?

...What is her point tho? Is she trying to infer that Lana's belief that women should be allowed to do whatever they want (i.e anything men have been legally permitted to do for many centuries more) is not a part of feminist values?
I hate how people seem to translate Lana's statements of disinterest with feminism as an utter aversion to the feminist movement. She obviously should have answered with a polite nod like all pretty little female celebrities have to, but fuck all she said was that when people bring feminism up in conversation she doesn't care, she's more interested in space travel. SURE, IT'S KIND OF A DUMB ANSWER BUT LANA SAID HERSELF THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY ON THE MATTER. What's really sexist about all this is that the media forces Lana to speak on behalf of her gender and scrutinise her as a woman, and fuck to anyone that took this statement as a denouncement of feminism she gave her own, entirely accurate, description of a feminist, Lana clearly DOES understand what a feminist is because I'm pretty sure all women agree that feminism is about equalising rights between both sexes, i.e a woman who feels free to do whatever she wants.
Anyway, what the fuck does this have to do with Lana's "glamourisation" of death?
 
Let's just get this clear, the Lana that sings about her pain and alludes to Marilyn and Kurt Cobain in her music is NOT the same Lana that told the guardian she wished she was dead.
 
When Lana sings about death in her songs, we know it's her being overdramatic, it doesn't count as glamourisation because these songs aren't glamorous, they're fucking sad. Meanwhile, when Lana's on interview, after having just released her latest album, and leaving her boyfriend, and inbetween tours and shows on a tight schedule, you'd expect her not to feel so great. Cut the girl some mother fucking slack. And this senile old woman thinks she can get away with such blatant hypocrisy? She throws shade at Lana for "glamourising death" then advises Lana to kill herself? What an insightful, witty, observent GO FUCK YOURSELF.
 
Also based on how Lana responded to being put on the worst dressed list imagine how she'd react if she met this washed up cunt
 
Not gonna pretend I actually know who this bitch is tho.
Oh boy, she was big two decades ago? Well jeez do I feel left out, nah but for real let this dry-cunted asshole moan while she still has her fucking teeth

EXACTLY.
 
And yet it seems no one (other than Lana's admirably aggressive twitter legion) has really called Kim out for this yet. Advising another woman that you've never met to kill themselves, especially in such a vitriolic and heartless fashion, is a much worse immpression to be putting out to our youth than a lonely woman admitting her own depression. The fact that Lana has made her anxieties clear to the world actually makes what Kim said even more, well, downright evil.
 
And yet if Lana were to respond in even the most reserved of manners, she'd be the one accused of trying to ignite a spat.
Let's hope she has enough common sense to realise that this woman is way out of place, it seriously wouldn't be good for her mental state if she took any of what was said to heart. Which is very likely considering who said it.

The more I think about this, the worse it looks for Kim. Unless it turns out that the guy Lana had her multi year relationship with was Thurston (KG's ex-husband and bandmate), it looks like an insanely personal and vindictive attack on someone she doesn't have any real connection to. IOW, the culmination of social media bullshit, put into print and given the imprimatur of a musical 'legend'. 

Waiting for Azealia Banks to say something on this. I bet Lana herself would have a lot to say but she NEVER goes public about this stuff.
 
The saddest thing about this is if this happened to someone like Lorde or Taylor Swift everyone one would immediately come to their defence, fan or not, the things Kim Gordon said are that harsh, but Lana is always left to fend for herself. She's like the nerdy kid in high school, everyone sees this stuff happen to her but they just watch. No one thinks to throw her any fucking support.
 
Also I must be forgetting the song where Lana says no to voting or earning equal pay.
Let's just list all the sexism displayed in this paragraph:
1 Slut-Shaming Lana for her taste in men and lovemaking.
2 Criticising Lana's apt description of a true feminist because Lana said it.
3 Insinuating that Lana shouldn't sing as an individual who has chosen a different lifestyle to her, but instead sing about very certain topics. She's basically saying that Lana Del Rey's experiences are less valuable because she's a female, she should be singing about how independent she is and act like everyone wants her too because anything less is just unheard of in society (Jim Morrison, Kanye West, Eminem, pretty much all male rappers)
4 Advising Lana to kill herself. This isn't sexist so much as simply inhumane and reprehensibly irresponsible.
 
Does Kim think she's gonna get away with all this?

This is interesting. I feel like Lana has made her place in history and not in the way she wanted to.
 
Kim seemed not to like Lana, in general, from her tone and wording in the quote. In any case, she's using her version of what feminism is to put down the choices she doesn't like of another woman. It's one thing to have an opinion about someone, it's another to feel the need to shame/humiliate them. I would assume she had an agenda. Based on her twitter feed that would appear so. She had to have known the controversy this would generate and she seems to be taking some form of pleasure in all of it.

It's cute she's basing her opinion of Lana as a whole off what, the Ride music video and a couple bad quotes? I'm sure it'll be tough on Lana considering who it's coming from though, especially considering how close Kim and Kurt were. I'm wondering if this has anything at all to do with the fact that Kim hates Courtney Love too and Lana happens to be doing a tour with her.

Waiting for Azealia Banks to say something on this. I bet Lana herself would have a lot to say but she NEVER goes public about this stuff.
 
The saddest thing about this is if this happened to someone like Lorde or Taylor Swift everyone one would immediately come to their defence, fan or not, the things Kim Gordon said are that harsh, but Lana is always left to fend for herself. She's like the nerdy kid in high school, everyone sees this stuff happen to her but they just watch. No one thinks to throw her any fucking support.
 
Also I must be forgetting the song where Lana says no to voting or earning equal pay.
Let's just list all the sexism displayed in this paragraph:
1 Slut-Shaming Lana for her taste in men and lovemaking.
2 Criticising Lana's apt description of a true feminist because Lana said it.
3 Insinuating that Lana shouldn't sing as an individual who has chosen a different lifestyle to her, but instead sing about very certain topics. She's basically saying that Lana Del Rey's experiences are less valuable because she's a female, she should be singing about how independent she is and act like everyone wants her too because anything less is just unheard of in society (Jim Morrison, Kanye West, Eminem, pretty much all male rappers)
4 Advising Lana to kill herself. This isn't sexist so much as simply inhumane and reprehensibly irresponsible.
 
Does Kim think she's gonna get away with all this?

Note how Kim retweets a few pissed off Lana fans who defend their fave, as if to say "look how childish and stupid they are!" When she legitimately asked a girl to kill herself and published it in a book. Such a class act.
The bitch even retweeted someone saying "Kim Gordon has had a bigger impact in music than Lana Del Rey ever will"
Arrogant cunt. And we're supposed to sit quietly and allow her to trash her fellow woman because she was a big deal in the 90s?

What irritates me most about this is that people assume that these emotions are not real for Lana. Just because she's rich and beautiful, she can't be depressed or suffering from anxiety? I think she combines her own personal demons and past with an aesthetic she loves and this culminates into the narratives that her music embodies. It's easy to dismiss her as "just a persona," but a simple look at her music and work from ten years ago shows that this imagery and lyrical content remains consistent. There also seem to be several indications that she was quite a troubled teen. Most importantly, through her music, she gives a voice to oppressed women. I think Ultraviolence was more of a statement on the treatment of women by the industry and a reflection on the dark side of fame than a blanket comment on feminism. It was clearly written from personal experiences with a lot of sardonic tones. It's just very sad for me to witness a woman being perpetually torn down by critics and peers because of the way she chooses to express herself. Isn't that a direct contradiction of what feminism is all about?

Considering the most recent round of petulant backlash, I'm very happy that Lana has chosen to include a cover of "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" on Honeymoon.

Note how Kim retweets a few pissed off Lana fans who defend their fave, as if to say "look how childish and stupid they are!" When she legitimately asked a girl to kill herself and published it in a book. Such a class act.
The bitch even retweeted someone saying "Kim Gordon has had a bigger impact in music than Lana Del Rey ever will"
Arrogant cunt. And we're supposed to sit quietly and allow her to trash her fellow woman because she was a big deal in the 90s?

Waiting for Azealia Banks to say something on this. I bet Lana herself would have a lot to say but she NEVER goes public about this stuff.
 
The saddest thing about this is if this happened to someone like Lorde or Taylor Swift everyone one would immediately come to their defence, fan or not, the things Kim Gordon said are that harsh, but Lana is always left to fend for herself. She's like the nerdy kid in high school, everyone sees this stuff happen to her but they just watch. No one thinks to throw her any fucking support.
 
Also I must be forgetting the song where Lana says no to voting or earning equal pay.
Let's just list all the sexism displayed in this paragraph:
1 Slut-Shaming Lana for her taste in men and lovemaking.
2 Criticising Lana's apt description of a true feminist because Lana said it.
3 Insinuating that Lana shouldn't sing as an individual who has chosen a different lifestyle to her, but instead sing about very certain topics. She's basically saying that Lana Del Rey's experiences are less valuable because she's a female, she should be singing about how independent she is and act like everyone wants her too because anything less is just unheard of in society (Jim Morrison, Kanye West, Eminem, pretty much all male rappers)
4 Advising Lana to kill herself. This isn't sexist so much as simply inhumane and reprehensibly irresponsible.
 
Does Kim think she's gonna get away with all this?

Note how Kim retweets a few pissed off Lana fans who defend their fave, as if to say "look how childish and stupid they are!" When she legitimately asked a girl to kill herself and published it in a book. Such a class act.
The bitch even retweeted someone saying "Kim Gordon has had a bigger impact in music than Lana Del Rey ever will"
Arrogant cunt. And we're supposed to sit quietly and allow her to trash her fellow woman because she was a big deal in the 90s?

Waiting for Azealia Banks to say something on this. I bet Lana herself would have a lot to say but she NEVER goes public about this stuff.
 
The saddest thing about this is if this happened to someone like Lorde or Taylor Swift everyone one would immediately come to their defence, fan or not, the things Kim Gordon said are that harsh, but Lana is always left to fend for herself. She's like the nerdy kid in high school, everyone sees this stuff happen to her but they just watch. No one thinks to throw her any fucking support.
 
Also I must be forgetting the song where Lana says no to voting or earning equal pay.
Let's just list all the sexism displayed in this paragraph:
1 Slut-Shaming Lana for her taste in men and lovemaking.
2 Criticising Lana's apt description of a true feminist because Lana said it.
3 Insinuating that Lana shouldn't sing as an individual who has chosen a different lifestyle to her, but instead sing about very certain topics. She's basically saying that Lana Del Rey's experiences are less valuable because she's a female, she should be singing about how independent she is and act like everyone wants her too because anything less is just unheard of in society (Jim Morrison, Kanye West, Eminem, pretty much all male rappers)
4 Advising Lana to kill herself. This isn't sexist so much as simply inhumane and reprehensibly irresponsible.
 
Does Kim think she's gonna get away with all this?

Waiting for Azealia Banks to say something on this. I bet Lana herself would have a lot to say but she NEVER goes public about this stuff.
 
The saddest thing about this is if this happened to someone like Lorde or Taylor Swift everyone one would immediately come to their defence, fan or not, the things Kim Gordon said are that harsh, but Lana is always left to fend for herself. She's like the nerdy kid in high school, everyone sees this stuff happen to her but they just watch. No one thinks to throw her any fucking support.
 
Also I must be forgetting the song where Lana says no to voting or earning equal pay.
Let's just list all the sexism displayed in this paragraph:
1 Slut-Shaming Lana for her taste in men and lovemaking.
2 Criticising Lana's apt description of a true feminist because Lana said it.
3 Insinuating that Lana shouldn't sing as an individual who has chosen a different lifestyle to her, but instead sing about very certain topics. She's basically saying that Lana Del Rey's experiences are less valuable because she's a female, she should be singing about how independent she is and act like everyone wants her too because anything less is just unheard of in society (Jim Morrison, Kanye West, Eminem, pretty much all male rappers)
4 Advising Lana to kill herself. This isn't sexist so much as simply inhumane and reprehensibly irresponsible.
 
Does Kim think she's gonna get away with all this?