domandapiano

@Coloringbooks like i had mentioned before in my previous post... there's really no definitive way to judge whether or not the person in her drawing is meant to be underage or not, I PERSONALLY see it more as a young adult man, while, at the same time, i can see how it could be interpreted as somebody young, but, like i had also previously mentioned, it's heavily stylized, and not anatomically-incorrect, it's not a hyper-realistic drawing which is completely true to life, so it feels futile to try to dissect whether or not it's supposed to depict somebody under or over the age of 18, only hayden could know what it's intended to be
 
i'm sure we can all agree the drawing is very weird, and perhaps wasn't right to share, but fighting over it isn't productive or going to lead anywhere, if somebody finds out about an artist's controversies and decides they no longer want to support them, that's fine, but going into the artist's designated thread which will be visited and posted in by fans and bringing up controversies, or trying to start controversies is really just asking for arguments, disagreements, and discourse which isn't needed, i don't think there's anything wrong with discussing controversies when they come up, but the only times we've discussed controversies surrounding her recently was when people who didn't like her randomly came in and brought something up, and some of the things which were deemed controversial, or, reasons to not like her were pretty asinine, especially in comparison to what other artists have done, including... editing her own wikipedia page, being pro-life when she was 14, 12 years ago, and making some dumb tweet
 
 
of course her fans are going to try and justify her... they're her fans, although not everyone here has blindly defended her and claimed that the drawing was a-okay and not weird at all, at least, i didn't, anyone could easily go into the melanie martinez thread, point out her rape allegations, and say the exact same thing you did

ive been listening to perverts and it's just good honestly! i get why some people might not be into it at first cause it's definitely not as accessible as preachers daughter (which IMO is as pop as it gets... despite what people might think) but it's a very good project.
 
i wish she actually followed through with the initial concepts though? like have each song represent a perversion it would have been nice

Fans expected miracles with AOD, Aspyr never promised a version of the game that was completed in anyway. They said there will be a cut training area added, a few cut moves added, some updates to graphics and smoother modern controls. They have provided all that.
The game moves better from what i quickly tested….but the game will always never be “fixed” because it was never finished correctly to begin with. The AOD remaster was always only going to be the fan modded version fans have been playing for years on PC.
 
There are still a good few in game character models that need work and some control tweaking which will no doubt come in patches this year. 

her drawing is definitely strange, and uncomfortable to look at, but i've heard people online claim it's intended to be someone of age, despite being drawn in a chibi style, so i don't know if it's automatically fair to brand it as CP or CP-adjacent, art is often very subjective and interpretable, and can often be misunderstood as well, i personally think it looks like a young man drawn in a chibi-like style, and also, it's heavily-stylized, and honestly not very anatomically-correct, so in that case, i feel like trying to dissect and analyze whether or not it's intended to be somebody of age is just a losing game, only hayden herself could know that for sure
 
i do think the drawing is very jarring, and absolutely inappropriate, at least, to share online, if it is depicting somebody underage, especially since the caption is pretty cheeky about it, and not taking it and what it depicts very seriously, i'm not one to dictate art, but i do believe it's highly inappropriate for someone to make depictions of children sexually/violently (assuming it is intended to be a child), we can't know for sure what exactly inspired her to draw something like that, but it should be very obvious by now that her work touches on many heavy subjects, of which have been relevant to her life, such as religion, sexuality, trauma, ETC. so perhaps there's more reasoning behind such a drawing, regardless, it likely wasn't appropriate for her to share publicly
 
at the end of the day... there's nothing we can do to change what artists have done in the past, we just have to decide whether or not we can look past certain things, and choose to continue to engage with someone's work, or not, not too long ago people here were criticizing her for being pro-life 12 years ago when she was like, 14 (which was RIDICULOUS lol people were just grasping at straws trying to find reasons to hate on her) or for some stupid edgy legalize incest shirt, and it's especially silly to me seeing people here fight about it while simultaneously being fans of artists who have done similarly questionable or worse things, including LDR! some would argue it was really weird for her to use footage from a kiddie pageant documentary in her homemade music videos, something i actually personally feel a bit uncomfortable with, but it's not enough for me to stop supporting her, are we brigading the melanie martinez thread talking about her sexual assault allegations? no, or, at least, i haven't, i can't recall that ever happening in recent times
 
it just seems like fighting over artists and what problematic things they have done just doesn't go anywhere, especially doing it in the artist's designated thread which will be populated by fans, we're all aware of hayden's actions, artistic choices, ETC. we aren't oblivious to it, we still choose to listen to her music anyway, just like with any other fans of artist who have done strange/questionable/bad things

She was so sweet on Hot Ones. I honestly would hang out with her, and i dont care to do that with a lot of artists i like. 

amber waves...
 
i have officially fell down the ethel cain rabbit-hole... and i am glad

This nothing burger era

It’s funny we are having this discussion on a stan website for Lana who literally married a MAGA jagoff. 

I just know we’re going to be sitting here the day AFTER Stagecoach saying “aCtUaLlY, this is how Lana Del Rey could still release 2 singles before her Stagecoach performance  👁️👄👁️”

Amber waves is so perfect 

hey doves <3 i'm new here, but i'm happy to meet people who are into some similar things
 
fave ethel song has to be western nights currently ♡

didn’t she say we’ll have a ‘few songs’ before stagecoach (april 25)…..

Well when is it then 

I can’t get over the room of fools hate… one day u will reach enlightenment 

Is Lana like actually alive? I don't think we've seen her once this year. Did she die and get replaced by a clone? Is she enjoying married life in near complete isolation? Is this all a a social experiment? Is the album still coming out? Is she lying once again? God knows 

Incredible production.
 
plague dogs is perfection.
 
I'm glad the girls are talking about her. She needs more recognition (and we need a longer album)

This being the tracklist…
 
1. This Bitch
2. Spaced Out
3. Braiding 
4. Pussy Hair
5. Ignoring Taylor’s Texts
6. Jermey’s Rotting Veranda 
7. Louisiana 
8. She Ain’t Moving
9. Henry 

This bitch spaced out braiding her pussy hair ignoring Taylor’s texts on jeremy’s rotting veranda in Louisiana. She ain’t moving 

chat is quiet, yup we made it out of the trenches

Yeah it’s best single so far we are so BACK 

Yeah it’s best single so far we are so BACK 

The song is very faggy and very cunty. I like it. 

guys ethel is not slayyyter in 2020, she can't be "cancelled" by having some old ass tweets resurfaced or whatever. she's like... an actual artist. dredging up old comments no matter how "offensive" is not gonna do shit!
 
as far as the abortion comment goes ... who cares??? lol. like even if she is anti abortion (which i dont think she is but whatever) she hasn't made it a STANCE. it is just something she believes in and okay. whatever. who cares about incest? "incest" is also just how humans reproduced for thousands of years. my granddad's parents lived in a small island and had the same surname. that's how most people are. 
 
 
i had no idea she was upset. if that's the case yeah.. but still! i feel like a lot  of people where overly harsh to her for saying something controversial as if all artists don't do that.
 
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i'm not even a fan of her music but the response to her is very weird especially considering how no one cares. like ive never sen anyone discuss ethel's "problematic past" besides here or popcirclesjerk on reddit which is a cesspool of looser f words
 
okay she's said some controversial things. okay she had some problematic comments. okay ? i think it's quite clear she is very messed up from her upbringing  so to expect her to be anything but that is weird. she is not faking it she is actually like that and let her be it 

1. Gibson Girl - 10/10
2. Family Tree - 10/10
3. A House In Nebraska - 10/10
4. Strangers - 9/10
5. Family Tree (Intro) - 9/10
6. Hard Times - 9/10
7. Ptolomaea - 8/10
8. Televangelism - 8/10
9. Sun Bleached Flies - 8/10
10. Thoroughfare - 8/10
11. American Teenager - 7/10
12. Western Nights - 7/10
13. August Underground - 6/10