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I think some people might know based on the hoarding of songs. Like... some people for sure know if "Fake Rolex" is a real song or not. I really believe all these songs are circulating since we've got the most random stuff like 80s Baby, The Devil and Connection. They probably know if Elvis has been re-recorded or if it's still the same laptop demo and this stuff. - I do still have a lot of skepticism about everything we know for this "Tropico" project x Paradise x Ultraviolence and I believe there's a bigger overlap between the first 2 than the latter. The first mention of a "new album" seems to have happened on June 15th 2012¹, when a spanish interview published she had "5 new songs" and was going to release it in November. On the same day, she gave another Radio Interview where she mentioned the titles "Will You Still Love Me When I'm Not Longer Young and Beautiful" (sang a little acapella), "In The Lands Of Gods & Monsters" and "I Sing The Body Electric"². Circa 10 days later, during an Australian Radio Interview, she said then it wasn't "a new album" but a "repackage" with "like Seven new songs".³ It seems like a short time to change her mind about New Album x Repack, but we can also note that she already mentioned she added 2 extra songs (actually, 3, since Young and Beautiful wasn't released as part of Paradise). My theory is that Tropico was meant to be the second album, yes, but that wasn't transformed into Ultraviolence, it was reduced into Paradise. The EP got 9 (!) songs on it, and we're fully aware that Young And Beautiful, Life is Beautiful, I Talk To Jesus are all confirmed outtakes from the Paradise sessions and they would all easily make it a 13 songs record, with rumored extra songs like Starry Eyed also being left on the cutting room and without extra information. July 2012 she was probably gearing up for Ride (video) and really close to Anthony Mendler coming from the release of National Anthem. It makes sense she probably had all these visuals in her head and for a moment expected to release it with a new album, but also realized she didn't have enough time to make a full record + film... so she scrapped the album but kept the Film with specific songs she wanted... I mean, Tropico does use the 3 key songs from Paradise, Ride already had its own Short Film, Blue Velvet was already used within the H&M campaign and Burning Desire was a Bonus\Promotional single also tied with Jaguar. All you have left is Yayo (a re-recording), Cola (which seems to be one of the earliest songs from these sessions and one of her favs) and American (a filler she never bothered to perform???). I just find it all too-tied together to fully believe Tropico was something that came from after Paradise and she really wanted to make a movie out of thin air without having real songs while using a Paradise song to announce it (it was first mentioned with the "Bel Air" video using B-Roll footage from Summertime Sadness). Anyway yeah conspiracy. We need to start #TRANSAM thread. ¹https://www.rtve.es/radio/20120615/lana-del-rey-electrica-amon-tobin-calentando-motores-para-su-espectacular-show-sonar/536599.shtml ²https://www.ccma.cat/3cat/lana-del-rey-una-de-les-estrelles-del-sonar-2012-entrevistada-a-el-mati/video/646450/ sadly this is offline, but this is mentioned on the Young and Beautiful page ³https://www.idolator.com/6753751/lana-del-rey-born-to-die-paradise-edition
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Dreaming of the day I'll check Lanaboards and see Sky Ferreira (HOT) on the dashboard saying that Pretty Dull leaked and she announced the second album.
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I honestly think every music video that didn't happen should be considered wasted pontential. Maybe except the military\war one lol. Image used to be such a high standard and appeal of the "Lana Del Rey Brand". Music videos for Dark Paradise, Cola, Get Free, Cherry... all of them had potential. I mourn a little she packed a punch with her videography but ever since Lust For Life it took a real backseat. We did get The Greatest + Fuck It I Love You but... meh.
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James Dean is top notch and I'd love her to go further the demented-electro sound. It reminds me of Sunshine (rip her best unreleased). Make Up is fine; great bones but the demo was hitting harder. Starfucker is fantastic in every shape and form (both album & song). I love the funky bass of the demo but the final is also closer to James Dean\Erotic Electronic soundscape.
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Hell it posted before I even started writing nn. Lana's too caught up with the "Folk/Americana/Songwriter" vibe, that's why. She wants her quick piano chords and acoustic guitar to do the heavy lifting instead of cooking up with the synths, pads, heavier guitars to wash the sound. I do miss it. I've always wanted a full on synth-y dreamy record in the vein of the original Lust For Life demo and these great cinematic soundscape, but she keeps doubling down on taking percussion out and stripping the songs away.
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"Unknown Complextro Masterpiece" is something she said on the lm.com chats back in 2012 while describing what became "Partynauseous" and the conflicts with Indonesia. She mentioned she wrote "some songs", one of them a "Complextro Masterpiece" and the other as "Hip-Hop/Jpop/pop" song. Kick It, Element Of Crime, Private In Public and White Rose Thorns are all pieces that came from her social media, mostly Tumblr and Twitter, between 2012/2013. Since she used to tease a lot of lyrics and titles before we were aware of their existences, there's a big possibility these are all real lyrics. White Rose Thorns especially got some traction because she was posting about white roses like crazy in 2011 and early 2012. https://amenfashion.tumblr.com/post/7078822073 https://www.tumblr.com/amenfashion/7226456419 Pretty sure the rest is all fake or very baseless speculation. -- Edit: About the demos, I'm 90% sure they're all real. Well, at least the ARTPOP ones are for sure since they're very early concepts. The rest could be Stems edits since they're labeled as "pre-mix" and there's hardly a major difference, but after so long and within a lot of "real stuff" going all together... Don't think random fake leaks would be bundled together.
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Catch Black Eye Regulars Fresh Landry Not So Bad in LA ... (a giant void) All The Rage Bitch Paper Love Too Much To Dream (Sanctuary) Casanova (That's So Us) Sunflower Paper Love & Casanova are awkward because they clearly have bigger budget than all the rest summed up and multiplied and somehow they managed to fuck everything up. Casanova I remember being super let down by how... basic it was, coming from all the teasing with Verité, the text messages aesthetic, the mirror single cover... and then we got that. Too Much To Dream, All The Rage and Bitch are all quite good but still forgettable. That's So Us & Sanctuary being scrapped... I see the vision why, but they'd cute additions to her short videography. The way she's fighting for her life, quite literally, against these kids in Sanctuary... lord. I'd also put I Will Love You More within the first group and Tongue Tied on the higher half of the second batch.
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Yeah she always been sort of... ~problematic, but back then she wasn't try to give her opinion over everything and trying to look smart "out of the bubble!". I blame it on people who wanted Savages as a single.
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God I LOVE these making-off videos like the tiktok for Black Eyes. She's just a tour de force.
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Thanks sis your post is a full slay. I just searched and the Purge demo is so great. There's really TONS of stuff that leaked over the last years when I was a little less obsessed with her. Collxtion II is truly an ERA.
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I fell down the Unsolved Hole again and God what a mess that was did we ever get the Alexandra final version? Cuz I'm going full Mandela effect right now; every page hints that we only got a snippet of the final version, but I could 100% swear we had it in full. That's So Us taking Too Much To Dream place only for her to openly hate the former and praise the latter. Misbelieving and Alexandra being chosen and none of them being part of the album. All The Rage iconically leaking in remixed-radio-edit form before we had any information about it AT ALL, then getting full single-with-music-video treatment and then being fully scrapped and never mentioned again. Old Habits Die Hard just being tacked along and the awkward CLX II mix. CURE being teased just to get followed by "Y'know what? It's all solved now gays xx bye". PURGE NEVER GETTING PAST THE PIANO TREATMENT????? THE SET-UP OF PUTTING IT AGAINST CASANOVA??? But I wouldn't change a thing. Fucking iconic and the amount of music... she didn't have to serve like that, but she did anyway.
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I just realized that all of the single covers were part of the vinyl Poster that she showed us some weeks ago. Some of them look very abstract here (Pretty In Possible, the Hopedrunk & Billions cropped pics) but from what I can see, the picture of her sat down facing the ceiling (under Bunny) is the only "non-used" so far... so it might be "I Believe".
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Not this thread flopping right now that she's fully BACK back
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Oh we do have the White Mustang but I really mean the original cut. I'm sure there's a lot of extra footage they just couldn't use because of lip synching and the white mustang recut is just... what was salvageable. Also; Ultraviolence\freak original video. No surprise the pool scenes were so gorgeous that she actually recycled it twice.
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It really looks like she gave up her music career and went full on InstaTravel #Influencer lmao.
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It is not from an "official video" but it seems like it was the original song used for the Ad before they switched singles to Do What U Want. Well, you can see she's doing the "V" thing with her arms like she does when she's performing Venus, and the whole look is very fitting (garden panty, goddess of love & beauty, etc). They never went forward with the Venus video shooting because they had to rush between stuff (her promo performances, appearances, etc.) and there was no way to schedule it with Do What U Want having its own video (which was shot in like, late October\Early November I think?) and the album coming up on the pipeline. Then she tried to "make up for it" with the G.U.Y.\ARTPOP Film. Theeeeeen there are some extra rumors that she actually had a whole lot of extra-footage from that video, including a full Venus sequence, that got cut short for that small snippet in the official video, but I can't remember exactly who said this.
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I don't think she does have a bad song but looking back I do think Serial Killer is... the weakest of them all. But the remixed version from Club Paradise where the 4\4 beat kicks in after the bridge and it does turn into a club anthem????? Mama that's gold. She knew what to do.
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She teased the "final version" along with other Masochism tracks around 2017-2019, but that was also when she first hinted at the video of Night Time My Time vinyl reissue. Probably supposed to be a bonus track there. edit: All To Myself (Final Version) could be a full whole slay eat boots down.........
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She probably does have newer songs that aren’t known (yet) that can be tacked into the album. Everything we got so far has been teased for years now, bar “Innocent Kind” which showed up last year on Primavera Sound, and same way stuff like “Hurt By You” and “Always Ready To Lose You” just showed up out of nowhere. At this point, the best thing would be a Tell-All interview within any outlet without any sort of holding back or “not naming names” but this has been said to death so…. But it is the only thing that could help. After all these years, she’s still pretty much buzzy and getting headlines with the smallest crumb of information that comes out. For someone who barely speaks even while on stage and lives like a posthumous Stan page just posting old photos, she wouldn’t be feeding into the FreeSkyFerreira narrative if she knew it had a chance of blowing back on her ass.
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Thank you for this post! It's something I've been interested for a very long time and couldn't manage to find a very good source\explanation that wasn't fully tech\expert and you did a perfect job with the visual examples. This should be fixed on top of the Audio section of this place. - Oh wow we have the whole Maso Album now, just missing from the title track (which i'm not even sure if it was confirmed to be a Title Track? the "Hold my tongue until I choke" snippet? It's so good tho)
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Dallas, TX @ Dos Equis Pavillion - Sept 19th 2023
DinahLee replied to ultrabanisters's topic in 2023 Performances
1. The dress is absolutely gorgeous, she's really looking like a goddess during these last US shows and just shitting all over the european gowns. The cowboy boots make it camp as hell. 2. Her capacity of creating the worst setlists is admirable. She really went "y'know, fuck born to die, *presses shuffle on spotify*" and called it a day. Opening with NFR is fucking BAD. Following it with Arcadia is BAD. -
Dallas, TX @ Dos Equis Pavillion - Sept 19th 2023
DinahLee replied to ultrabanisters's topic in 2023 Performances
Jesus what's up with her Texas concerts? Poor Endless Summer Tour. -
I already mentioned this before but the AI just not caring to even attempt the high note leading to the last chorus, the wonky pitch all over... maybe this is the final version of the song actually.