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She's definitely constantly creating but at the same time she doesn't seem to care so much about fame and sales anymore. I imagine her living a normal life and having a kid but still writing and recording demos that will be on some album in several years. It's kinda crazy how she has a year gap or two between every album and continued to be consistent for +10 years. I do think that NFR was her last album to be mainstream and that the next 5 albums will be very low key.

Why no both lol. But personally I think her voice and attitude definitely matches something more rough. When 2020-21 Miley sings soft songs it's kinda off because her voice has become so rough over the years. In her Bangerz era her soft vocals were perfect. Either way I hope her next album will be with less pop elements like autotune and more with live instruments. She definitely fits into glam metal and if misogynistic glam metal didn't have a female star in the 80s it's time to make up for the loss lol.

Omg yes. The last time I gave a shit about Miley was in her Bangerz era. Plastic Hearts is so fresh except that I can't seem to like Side C but everything else is so good. My friend wanted to buy me the 2LP as a birthday present but it was out of her budget but it's okay. I just don't like the golden G string pic in the gatefold lmao. I know that she was aiming from the slightly sleezy aesthetic but I wish she chose her photo instead. Everything else is so cool and hopefully I'll buy it one day. After seeing her Magnum performance I can't believe why she didn't sing rock sooner. She has such a natural rockstar stage presence. Hopefully her next album will be pure rock.

I'm not a huge fan of her music except for her biggest hits, I don't like her as a person but whenever I hear my generation say that she's nothing special and that they have no idea what was the hype around her I can barely hold myself from saying "You're fucking dumb af, aren't you? ". Seriously, she literally changed the image of pop stars forever. It's hard to name a more influential artist than her.

I usually don't give a shit about celebrities' past but Lana is one of those who definitely have an interesting past. I imagine her being like Serena Van Der Woodsen in her New York and boarding school days based on what she describes herself in Carmen etc.

Why? I was in middle school so I have no idea. What I know that the early to mid 2010s were peak of alt pop and alt rock (besides the 90s).

I've heard about that but the point is that Lana's image couldn't be more white American and there's nothing exotic about it except her name. Her image literally screams "I've never vacationed outside of America". Even if she went by Svetlana and Anastasia I wouldn't care less because it's not like she's pretending she's a different ethnicity like Bhad Bhabie and other trailer trash.

I remember reading around Q4TC era that people were mad about Lana Del Rey as a stage name because it's.. fetishizing? racist? or whatever. I find nothing racist about that because her stage name does sound more catchy than Elizabeth Grant. It's show business. For example, people in my Slavic country sometimes have a stage names that sounds more English, Latin or Italian like Teodora -> Tea, Andjela -> Angellina. Idk why they do that because they're not trying to make it internationally but that happens in other languages and people have a reason for it. I would do the same in their shoes because I don't have a catchy name either.

I just quickly browsed this thread because I've only read recent pages and I found this masterpiece. "Next shes not privilege white girl shes latina and native American i know ok she didn't grow up rich im her mother. “ I'm Slavic and Sky looks whiter than my ass who can only burn in the sun. Just because you don't look your ethnicity doesn't mean you can't have white privileges. Her mother obviously doesn't look white but sky has a stereotypical Anglo Saxon look. Reminds ne when Halsey was constantly bringing up her father's side to appeal to black people.

@ChaoticLipster @rightofjupiter It's morbid but that scenario came to my head when checking her Instagram. She gives me drug addict vibes or someone who's depressed, in her most recent photos she looks really drained and she only looks polished and happy in her old photos. In her selfies she looks always very tired. Pretty sad. When you see her Instagram she doesn't seem like someone who would want to promote herself and her music.

Sorry, it's hard noticing sarcasm in a text. I expected stans fo drag me.

Girl, just because she made amazing videos in the past doesn't mean she will now. The description of the videos are obviously describing her BTD era, to be more specific Video Games, Summertime Sadness, Ride and National Anthem and they're iconic. The music video for Arcadia is literally just her standing behind the window and then twirling in the kitchen.

Okay.. I'll go first. When Lana posted Arcadia a.k.a. Map Of LA snippet in IG I realized that it will probably be another lazy ass era a with a idgaf attitude once again. Thunder and Cherry Blossom restored my hope but that instagram post destroyed it. Also, If the first music video is going to be like she posted, sis, leave it to the people who made music videos from movie clips on YouTube. This is sad. It's the equivalent of showing up on someone's wedding wearing a baggy t-shirt and jeans. Is this enough?

I literally have never felt sadness when listening her music. My cousin introduced me to Lana in her BTD era saying that her songs are heartbreaking. I've always felt peace or like I'm in a series with her music being a soundtract. Shades of Cool and 13 Beaches have hopeless lyrics but it's literally a viiiibee to listen it while driving by the beach (bonus if it's golden hour). For the "soundtrack" vibe I can think of Diet Mountain Dew and West Coast when I'm in a city and Honeymoon is only at night. So yeah... sadness not found

I don't have high expectations for BB, I just like hanging out on the thread because I'm bored with looking at people's Instagram stories. I had high hopes when I heard Thunder but now I feel like it will be filled with piano flops once again. Actually I lost hope when she posted Arcadia a.k.a. Map of LA with that bland ass video. She's either trying to make NFR 2.0 or she doesn't give a fuck anymore.

Selena Gomez and everything post Stars Dance. That album had good electro pop bops for young teens, she had good bops when she was with The Scene. The last song I liked was Good For You.

Lana testing her stans with being silent and acting like there isn't an album just behind the corner

I can't get over how she put an effort in her image during the Honeymoon era when I look back and now she can't even reveal one more photo, not even talk about what her fans can expect. Girl, don't be mad if barely any stand stans buy your vinyl and write Q4TC 2.0 name dropping Olivia Rodrigo.

It reminds me of those edgy alt aesthetic teens that post random blurry photos and then some shit post meme. Lana you're better than this. Give us photoshoots.

Promoting white eurocentric lifestyle in the colonial era therefore it's racist although black people practice it and can pull it off and no one's excluding them. Just a bunch of white people being offended on someone's behalf. Same goes for light/dark academica, boooo white people glamorizing architecture and literature written by Europeans, the horror, the racism. These idiots fail to realize that some European countries were never slavemadters and colonizers but still had those aesthetics. If a trend was a mix of white, black and asian culture there would be still gatekeeping about who's allowed to wear it so it's a lose lose situation.

Not to sound like an armchair psychologist but it definitely looks like cold feet. She was probably extremely confident cause of NFR's praise both from the public and critics plus the grammy nomination. She thought that she would receive support for her statements and behavior last year but it was quite the opposite and I assume the backlash for the COCC aesthetic was the final nail in the coffin. Plus people these days bodyshame her whenever she's mentioned. I understand critiquing cultural appropriation, black face, racist jokes and Nazi symbolism but people are literally offended by cottage core and Lana was the scapegoat. I don't blame her for her lack of confidence, I remember reading comments on IG like "It's really hard to stan Lana these days".

Omg yes, why? I listened to that song when it came out but it's literally background music and unnecessarily long. The lyrics aren't special either. A huge chunk of the song is that monotone instrumental that just won't stop. I don't remember ever replaying it. I'm not saying the song is bad, it's literally on my playlist but it's so so so so overrated. The entire NFR is so overrated and I don't know a single fan irl that adores that album.

Lmaooo same when I entered this thread

Please don't give me ideas. Lana's voice would fit perfectly into softer goth . Imagine her sounding like Cities In Dust and How Soon Is Now? looking like this or similar like in her UV era... Stop it with the good suggestions you guys when the album will probably be just a slightly better version of COCC. There, I've said it.

Everytime I go to the comment section of an article from my country about Free Britney I get disgusted by people and I could clearly see how the public viewed her back then. So the "more civilized" were armchair psychologists saying how she's seriously mentally ill and that her father is right. They gatekeep mental illness and basically saying how a conservatorship is good for the mentally ill. How do you know how she is mentally? We don't know it either except that she's not demented. The other half are people saying how she is a disgusting drug addict and should be locked for the rest of her life. Some are even comparing Britney's supporters to supporters of our ruling party. Okay? Usually 1/5 of the comments are obviously Gen Z supporting her. I can clearly see that these hateful people were probably teens/young adults in 2007-8 and they kept the same attitude that they had back then. I can't understand how people who don't believe this and say that the family has no reason to do this don't realize that people murder for tens of thousands of dollars. Keeping someone alive and earning millions sounds like a dream come true for con artists.