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Lana on Rolling Stone's list of Best Singers of All Time
bluechemtrails replied to Beautiful Loser's topic in Latest News
I've improved my rankings a bit by averaging the scores of each artist's albums, which is fairer because newer albums tend to have more ratings and thus got more weight. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pMccQzOLNjhJeFAZf4Q2KUiDZAaeILbD/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=114071724603519969365&rtpof=true&sd=true The problem is still that older albums have few reviews, almost all of them coming from Rolling Stone itself or All Music, but at least they seem to come from real critics. Many albums have also not been rated yet and are not counted here, but at least the most important ones seem to be included. So now artists with a long career and more recorded albums have an advantage, which is good because they have proven themselves more. For stability, I still adjusted the score to a value that shows the average score if the next album had a zero rating. So if you've recorded a lot of albums, a zero rating doesn't have as big an impact as if you only had two or three albums. The interesting result now shows that many of the highly rated artists were male. The first female singer is Sandy Denny of Fairport Convention at #18 and the best female singer still active is PJ Harvey at #26. Lana ranks at #93 (33rd female), just behind the short-lived but highly regarded Kurt Cobain. That looks fair, because there really are many successful singers in the world in many genres who have achieved a lot, and she, unlike most, can still rise. For example, if her next album had an average score of 73, she would move up 10 places or even more if it was rated as high as NFR. Note that these are now only the 200 artists listed by Rolling Stone. There are still many smaller and lesser-known singers (such as Adrianne Lenker of Big Thief) who would push the others even further down through their good critic ratings. -
Blue Banisters was a different situation. The album had almost no promo, not a very appealing cover photo, a lot of unrecognized (first) singles and was released only some months after Chemtrails. Now it looks like a lot more effort is being put into it. We also have a lot of collabs. If Lana and her team want to push an album up the charts, I think they could outdo Miley as well.
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There are some scrobbles of revealed song titles on Last FM, but I don't know if that means anything. https://www.last.fm/music/Lana+Del+Rey/_/The Grants https://www.last.fm/music/Lana+Del+Rey/_/Fingertips https://www.last.fm/music/Lana+Del+Rey/_/aMeRicAN+WHOre (interesting notation) https://www.last.fm/music/Lana+Del+Rey/_/A&W https://www.last.fm/music/Lana+Del+Rey/_/AW&J https://www.last.fm/music/Lana+Del+Rey/_/Sweet https://www.last.fm/music/Lana+Del+Rey/_/Candy Necklace I was hoping to find more unknown titles, but it looks like the scrobbles aren't enough to make it into any of the top 500 Lana track lists. Maybe this is the right way to get the tracklist? It's interesting that most of them have four different listeners (and a scrobble for each). So if we find other tracks with this low number and played at the same time (begin of December), maybe they belong to the album.
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The thread should better be renamed "How autobiographical are her lyrics?".
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Do you now want to dissect every song line like My body is a map of L.A. ? I think she often identifies with someone or something else, let's just call it artistic freedom.
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I just dreamed of a new song by Lana. It was a simple piece, just the piano and Lana, but so beautiful and sad, melancholy as only Lana can sing, that I woke up in tears. And you would also burst into tears every time you heard it. The piano sounded a bit like in Sweet Carolina or maybe French Restaurant, her voice was more high, soft and tender, the melody a bit repetitive. I don't remember the lyrics, but they seemed very personal and heartbreaking.
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Not to forget that she also portrays a stripper in the second part of the Tropico film.
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Lana on Rolling Stone's list of Best Singers of All Time
bluechemtrails replied to Beautiful Loser's topic in Latest News
Luciano Pavarotti is laughing about this list in his grave. -
Lana on Rolling Stone's list of Best Singers of All Time
bluechemtrails replied to Beautiful Loser's topic in Latest News
The RS list is so random and wrong, especially considering the critics' ratings. For these 200 singers, I've created a better (but still not perfect) list that takes into account the artist critics score on albumoftheyear.org (and also the score of the singer's main band, if that's relevant), which I think is the average critics score of the albums. If you take the pure score, no matter if the singer has only one or hundreds of reviews, Lana would rank 86th out of those 200 singers. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c1tk-GM60v6b_Im4mhmnKy6kbpuX-76_/edit?usp=share_link&ouid=106546559258394160245&rtpof=true&sd=true But if you also take into account the number of reviews, which means that the score becomes more stable as the number of ratings increases, Lana would rank 54th here! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_v8BrCHlRyeQmBmRPh9SHcOdO1ivqWgs/edit?usp=share_link&ouid=106546559258394160245&rtpof=true&sd=true I think this list is more fair and objective. Of course, there are some weak points here, for example, modern singers have much more reviews in smaller magazines, while in earlier times the reviews were perhaps a bit stricter. And there are less or no reviews for non-English artists (like Édith Piaf) and so on.... There are certainly some singers with better scores who are not on the RS list at all. -
Lana’s Management Thirst/Admiration Poll
bluechemtrails replied to shadesofloveduthenandnow's topic in Lana Thoughts
are there no female managers? -
if I like one song by Mitski, it's this one
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the song has a good cohesiveness with her discography, including ocean blvd
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It's not her best songs I replay over and over again, it's more the "average" ones. So streaming numbers can be misleading sometimes.
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Babygirl's EP Lovers Fevers from 2018
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ocean blvd vs dragonslayer
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Not Ben quotes NME magazine, which has misspelled her as Lana Del Ray for the thousandth time https://web.archive.org/web/20221228043137/https://www.nme.com/news/music/courtney-love-says-kurt-cobain-and-lana-del-ray-are-the-only-true-musical-geniuses-shes-ever-known-3372057