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  1. Greenwich liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    Wait so if Lana had a beehive hairdo and a technicolor album color scheme, the critics would have skewered her? That's your formula? That's what you really believe? And you think that the Guardian scandal was only potent enough to get her bad reviews in the UK? Child boo, that controversy was all over US pop culture too, enough so that it even got her TV coverage. You really think that in 2014, pop scandals are limited to one country at a time? lmfao. Just don't.
     
    Nevermind though, let's look at the facts: NME may have given her a tepid review, but they put her on their year-end best list at #25. Seems that was short lived. The Guardian, who Lana threw under the bus, gave her a glowing review. Spin put her at #5 for the year. Digital Spy, at 14. Mojo at #40. All UK publications.
     
    Clearly the controversy did little to truly damage her UK brand if their if their most prestigious magazines still managed to highlight her acheivments at the end of the year, even if a handful of them gave the album so-so feedback in the interim.
     
    You can't have your ridiciulous theory both ways. While it's not always about the music, especially with Lana given she's a character and an enigma, she's also not Mariah, or Gaga, or Britney, which is why we read over and over that she's the only pop artist without rival in this business. You speak of her as if she's a sports team that you wanna see win the championship so that you can brag about her to other fanbases. You're gonna be disappointed, CONSISTENTLY, doing that with Lana Del Rey. Have a seat.
  2. Hundred Dollar Bill liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    Wait so if Lana had a beehive hairdo and a technicolor album color scheme, the critics would have skewered her? That's your formula? That's what you really believe? And you think that the Guardian scandal was only potent enough to get her bad reviews in the UK? Child boo, that controversy was all over US pop culture too, enough so that it even got her TV coverage. You really think that in 2014, pop scandals are limited to one country at a time? lmfao. Just don't.
     
    Nevermind though, let's look at the facts: NME may have given her a tepid review, but they put her on their year-end best list at #25. Seems that was short lived. The Guardian, who Lana threw under the bus, gave her a glowing review. Spin put her at #5 for the year. Digital Spy, at 14. Mojo at #40. All UK publications.
     
    Clearly the controversy did little to truly damage her UK brand if their if their most prestigious magazines still managed to highlight her acheivments at the end of the year, even if a handful of them gave the album so-so feedback in the interim.
     
    You can't have your ridiciulous theory both ways. While it's not always about the music, especially with Lana given she's a character and an enigma, she's also not Mariah, or Gaga, or Britney, which is why we read over and over that she's the only pop artist without rival in this business. You speak of her as if she's a sports team that you wanna see win the championship so that you can brag about her to other fanbases. You're gonna be disappointed, CONSISTENTLY, doing that with Lana Del Rey. Have a seat.
  3. GangstaBoy liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    Wait so if Lana had a beehive hairdo and a technicolor album color scheme, the critics would have skewered her? That's your formula? That's what you really believe? And you think that the Guardian scandal was only potent enough to get her bad reviews in the UK? Child boo, that controversy was all over US pop culture too, enough so that it even got her TV coverage. You really think that in 2014, pop scandals are limited to one country at a time? lmfao. Just don't.
     
    Nevermind though, let's look at the facts: NME may have given her a tepid review, but they put her on their year-end best list at #25. Seems that was short lived. The Guardian, who Lana threw under the bus, gave her a glowing review. Spin put her at #5 for the year. Digital Spy, at 14. Mojo at #40. All UK publications.
     
    Clearly the controversy did little to truly damage her UK brand if their if their most prestigious magazines still managed to highlight her acheivments at the end of the year, even if a handful of them gave the album so-so feedback in the interim.
     
    You can't have your ridiciulous theory both ways. While it's not always about the music, especially with Lana given she's a character and an enigma, she's also not Mariah, or Gaga, or Britney, which is why we read over and over that she's the only pop artist without rival in this business. You speak of her as if she's a sports team that you wanna see win the championship so that you can brag about her to other fanbases. You're gonna be disappointed, CONSISTENTLY, doing that with Lana Del Rey. Have a seat.
  4. violentest liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  5. American Money liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  6. whitman liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    One day you'll grow out of the chart crap.
     
    Seems like Ultraviolence only holds a sour taste in your mouth because it didn't do the gangbusters you hoped to validate your fandom. That's unfortunate.
  7. FLA to the Moon liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  8. Shades liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  9. whitman liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  10. #glimmeringdarling liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  11. HEARTCORE liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  12. Jizzy Grant liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  13. rdp liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  14. Elle liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    One day you'll grow out of the chart crap.
     
    Seems like Ultraviolence only holds a sour taste in your mouth because it didn't do the gangbusters you hoped to validate your fandom. That's unfortunate.
  15. TRENCH liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    Serious question (not asking this in an ironic way) - did she really make a video for PWYC? Was it ever a thing or was it just that mysterious instagram post? She had another weird instagram post of her singing something right before she released West Coast, there was no audio on it and the footage matched nothing from the WC video.
     
    Who knows what hte PWYC post really was, idk.
  16. LittleFool liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  17. Hundred Dollar Bill liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  18. delreyfreak liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    Serious question (not asking this in an ironic way) - did she really make a video for PWYC? Was it ever a thing or was it just that mysterious instagram post? She had another weird instagram post of her singing something right before she released West Coast, there was no audio on it and the footage matched nothing from the WC video.
     
    Who knows what hte PWYC post really was, idk.
  19. technicolor liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  20. hollywoodgirl liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  21. Hundred Dollar Bill liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Honeymoon - Pre-Release and Discussion Thread   
    Uh, no. BTD was not trashed becuz of the SNL performance. It was trashed for a few reasons - many of them unfair, a small amount of them warranted, but mostly having to do with Lana being the it-girl to trash. SNL was a controversy unrelated to the actual album.  Lana was purported to be a fraud by the time BTD came out. The critics/ sheep reviewed the album under that assumption.
     
    Everyone did an about-face when Ultraviolence came out because the album made them eat their words about her reach as a musician. They had to backtrack - they couldn't revert back to saying she was overproduced or couldn't sing or couldn't work with live instruments.
     
    West Coast didn't cause too much of a fuss chart-wise, that could've easily turned critics off based on your dumb theory. And let me remind you - Lana had 2 of the biggest controversies of her entire career - the bad press kind - back to back right as Ultraviolence was being launched.
     
    "I wish I was dead"... and "I'm not interested in feminism"
     
    That got her a ton of criticism and once again people were deeply turned off by her. Ultraviolence was STILL given tons of respect despite all of that. And if you don't believe me, read the reviews and the 2014 year-end lists. Wow, look at that. So NEXT, your theory flopped.
     

  22. worm liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  23. delreyfreak liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    (this will be a long post)
     
    Ultraviolence may not have been full of hits but it was by no means an unlistenable album. She definitely surprised (and turned) a lot of detractors who dismissed her as a record-label android.
     
    All of you guys whining about flop this, Ultraviolence shitty videos that, seem to have forgotten how rough Lana's start in this business was. She was accused of the worst things - being a fraud, being a liar, being untalented, and being a woman hater. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what was said about her. She somehow managed to come out of that and answer those people with a brilliant album (it may not be for everyone, I understand this) that showed her versatility as a musician and her moxie, not allowing the thirsty tendencies of record labels cloud her vision. Ultraviolence did not put a dent in her career. It earned her some clout and we ALL know it.
     
    I get that Lana has younger fans - I'm the same age as Lana so who knows what you'd consider me. But you guys quickly seem to forget what Lana has stood for since the beginning. And it was never high budget, #1 singles, coture dresses, or god forbid, doing things just so people could buy it. This is the same girl who made videos on iMovie for christ sakes. She's not Gaga or Taylor Swift, she's a creator. The girl makes her money where she needs to. The rest of the time she's making art the only way she knows how to do it, and that's why I love her. When she's given a budget - she's a fucking legend. But you're gonna have to get used to her not always being that. She's more rock n roll than she is pop - regardless of what the purists say.
     
    So that's why the Mariah Carey dude's comments rub me the wrong way. it's like - why do you even like this woman? Worshipping Mariah Carey makes all the sense in the world given the things you say - but LANA?
  24. TRENCH liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    One day you'll grow out of the chart crap.
     
    Seems like Ultraviolence only holds a sour taste in your mouth because it didn't do the gangbusters you hoped to validate your fandom. That's unfortunate.
  25. ilovetati liked a post in a topic by Pensacola in Billboard Interview on Big Eyes and Upcoming Album 'Honeymoon'   
    One day you'll grow out of the chart crap.
     
    Seems like Ultraviolence only holds a sour taste in your mouth because it didn't do the gangbusters you hoped to validate your fandom. That's unfortunate.
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